V8 Titan in New GU!!!

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 21:45
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Word just to hand, that the new Ugly GU will come with the 5.7ltr 230kW Titan V8 5 speed auto from USA.

And the good news..

Horizontal split rear doors and spare underneath on Ti...

Photos of the Ugly Navara/Pajero/are on www.patrol4wd.org or http://www.me4x4.info/fuelstop/viewfsphoto.asp?ID=840
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Reply By: Andrew - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 21:50

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 21:50
Yep, thats the news coming out of middle east testing at the moment.
4.8 six will remain in the ST, 5.6 V8 for the Ti. Horizontal split tailgate and spare under will probably be standard on Ti and optional on others.

Live axles front and rear with revised geometry too. 8-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 21:53

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 21:53
It could come with a V16, 100,000kw but nothing will change the fact that its still butt ugly..

You watch the price too, up $15-20k at a guess?
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:01

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:01
front looks ok. bullbar will get rid of the bumper.
different colour would help. cant really judge it until we see it here in Oz spec.

230Kw with the 5 speed auto would be ideal

the world keeps moving truckie. I traded (UPGRADED) my GQ Ti (same as yours) 4 years ago on the IMPROVED version - GU 4.2 turbo.

get with the program son, Nissan move FORWARD with each model (unlike 'yota who have taken giant steps backwards since the 60 series)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:02

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:02
GU does nothing more than the GQ..

and true on the yota...
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Follow Up By: rolande- Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:10

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:10
Newer is better in the world of marketing, about the only ones who get around this are Land Rover with Defender, but they they have included Discovery as well. Nissan wouldn't sell 800 GQ's a month if they were still the current shape. Ask Ford, kept XF ute way too long, sales have trippled since new model, marketing rules
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Follow Up By: Allan Mac (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:12

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:12
Hi Trucky , notice you've got a few pics of your wagon on the pages already ! :-)
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 08:33

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 08:33
Hey andrew, yota havent changed, because they havent needed to, the others have changed trying to win back some of the market share, but even the el cheapo 3.0 td option on a budget didnt help with market share, or customer relations.....

Will be interesting to see if nissan continue with durability testing by releasing the vehicles to the public, to keep costs down again.... ;-)
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:22

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:22
Read my post again Mr. GO_OFFTOPIC 8-)))

I didnt say yota havent changed, I said they've gone backwards!

As for the 3.0TDi.....
Nissan made over 30 changes to the engine after 6 months when they found there was a problem. They also had a full recall for a fix to the existing engines. Although the fix proved unsuccessful at least there was acknowledgement and an attempt to repair, unlike yota with the 1HDT where they denied any problems until the owners started getting together. Even then there wasnt any public acknowledgement or recall.

This response by Nissan (6 months) compares very favourably compared to Toyota who have for FOURTEEN YEARS been building cruisers with a weak front diff that routinely lets go when simply driving down a steep hill or reversing caravans.
Its nice to hear that yota do so much durability testing, its just a shame they dont actually do anything with the results.......
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:52

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:52
Still doesnt chnage the fact the durability testing was done by the purchasers,

Oh, and I had one of those supposed weak diffs, twice now, and with bigger tyres and more grunt than most, and mine were fine.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:10

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:10
So are you denying that the front diff is a known problem or just trying to duck and weave?
I know quite a few 3.0TDi owners from the first 6 months that were recalled and havent gone bang too. One tows a large van and one a large boat.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 16:17

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 16:17
Well I have seen alot more mechanically unsympathetic drivers than I have good ones I must say.
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Reply By: Member - Ken - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:12

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:12
Truckster and other lovers of Gods after thought 4WD

Check this site out. I think it is what you are talking about.

http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/nissan/2004/pathfinder-armada/firstdrive/home.shtml

I don't' think I would be seen dead in one of these suckers. Couldn't aford the fuel anyway.

JOKE! just joking. (took too many of my pills today)

Regards

Ken Robinson
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 09:01

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 09:01
Looks like the new Explorer and the Patrol looks like mixture, a mongrel so to speak.

Baz.
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Reply By: Michael - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:44

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 22:44
I think price increases will be minimal, Nissan are struggling with their image here in Oz against the Cruiser.. Prices will be ok , otherwise a lot of potential buyers will say , "gee ,May as well buy a toyata for the same price".,,.
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Reply By: Bilbo - Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 23:13

Sunday, Jun 27, 2004 at 23:13
Not with the front diff problems we've got, they won't. P*ss weak - a Hi-lux diff in a 2.5 tonne Cruiser. Scary stuff when yer backing up a caravan up hill.

Hey, eldest son of mine, bring my Maverick ute back - NOW!! Yes - you can take the Cruiser to the beach, but stay on the bitumen OK??

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 08:29

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 08:29
The front diff is an easy fix.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:27

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:27
Installing a $2000 airlocker is an "easy fix"?????
Thats a bit like the $2500 "easy fix" to put the spare wheel where it should be.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:53

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:53
Well, of course, but you sound like a nissan owner to me, always concerned about the cost ;-)
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:06

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:06
Concerned about the cost?
Not really, just pleased that I can buy a full sized 4WD with a factory turbodiesel, live axles, strong running gear and the spare tyre where it should be. Carved from stone and bulletproof seem to be the terms used when describing GQs & GUs.
What do you care anyway? You have a Prado, the vehicle most yota people are having trouble accepting as tojos proper offroader.

ps Decided where you are camping on Friday and Saturday yet?
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 16:17

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 16:17
Fri night Farina, Sat night Birdsville.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 16:18

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 16:18
Oh, and thats the great thing about the prado, got to love the understated side ;-)
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Reply By: Peter McGuckian - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 09:38

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 09:38
But what news on diesel motors?

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:58

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:58
no change.....

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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:57

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:57
Bigger intercooler/more power for the 4.2 would be good.
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Follow Up By: Puddin & Gumnut (Sydney) - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 14:28

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 14:28
They have to bring out a new diesel soon as the 4.2 wont comply with EURO 3 emissions in 2006.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 15:54

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 15:54
Australia is the only country that gets the 4.2 diesel.
It is available in some other countries by special order though.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 20:01

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 20:01
"Puddin & Gumnut (Sydney) posted this followup

They have to bring out a new diesel soon as the 4.2 wont comply with EURO 3 emissions in 2006."

Or they drop the diesel altogether, or stick with the faulty 3.0 dunger...
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 22:14

Monday, Jun 28, 2004 at 22:14
Darn it ... if they mated the auto to the bigger diesel, (SWMBO is an auto only person) then I'd be looking at that as my next vehicle. Unless Isuzu's rumoured 2006 Trooper comes to fruition as the next Jackaroo.

Looks aside, I could probably live with this Patrol.
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