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I am doing a survey and need you assistance guys ,

Would you pay $4000 to convert your IFS 100 series to a riggid axle vehicle
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Reply By: Big Trev - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:21

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:21
I don't own a 100 series, but if I didn't like IFS I wouldn't have bought the vehicle, so my answer is NO.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:27

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:27
Ok , you need to remember there will not be Rig axle 4by 's in the nest 3 years , this is the direction of my question .

Thanks for the responce
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 16:53

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 16:53
there will be...

1000's of higher than now priced gu/gq's!

And if it was me, no thanks..

What is involved, as in what is changed, that would help make the decision, do you get good quality Nissan diffs, or plastacine Yota ones.??
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:40

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:40
The Big fella said NO, not unless he bought a 2nd hand one, that had already done 100000km and knew a wholesaler who could get it really cheap for him...ahhahaha....but def NO for a new one...

Lyn
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Reply By: Member - Rick (S.A.) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:49

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:49
I would not unless I was ABSOLUTELY convinced I needed clearance & load capacity for greater than 50 % of the km.

i.e. will take a fair bit to stop your progress (unless it is hardcore competition stuff) if you have raised the beast, got winch, tyres, technique all sorted.

C Ya
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:55

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:55
Eric,

I wouldnt on a new 100 series either, but the new Nissan also looks to be IFS front end and on that I might consider the alteration, given the history if Nissans price being lower than the Toy. On a comparative basis I could ALMOST justify the spend.

Having said that, I would also look around to see what lifting/atriculation mods are available for the new Nissan before parting with the readies.

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Reply By: navaraman - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:25

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:25
Probably not. The IFS 100 series will go almost anywhere you need it to, especially with a few mods and some good driving techniques. For serious rock hopping, extreme type driving I probably wouldn't want a vehicle as heavy and /or bulky as a 100 series, for that type of driving an older rigid axled vehicle is probably a better choice. I take your point that in years to come when rigid axles are harder to come by then the mod will make more sense.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 16:55

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 16:55
"The IFS 100 series will go almost anywhere you need it to, especially with a few mods and some good driving techniques"

LMAO!
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Follow Up By: navaraman - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 15:07

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 15:07
Why are you LYAO? I said it will go almost anywhere you NEED to and I stand by that.
It may not go up some of the extreme tracks, forestry trails, etc but most people, 99%, of us don't NEED to go there. We might want to for the sheer hell of it but it's not necessary.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 22:14

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 22:14
"but most people, 99%, of us don't NEED to go there. We might want to for the sheer hell of it but it's not necessary"

On that theory, none of us NEED to go offroad either, but do, but its not necessary either. You can drive to places to camp without leaving the tar.
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Reply By: Member Eric - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:40

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:40
Always looking at things to make and this popped into our head . From the responses so far , I think its a good time to develop but it looks like its years away before people will actually want a mod like this .

As Al said , probably when the 100 ifs is a seconf hand car with 100,000 kms and out of manufacturers warranty, people will look at as a mod like lockers .
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 16:59

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 16:59
There are already a fair few places doing the conversions, in Melb and Sydney.. Qld dont bother!
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 17:25

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 17:25
Truckster . I am going to start on you . You always seem to tell me what others are doing lol . Dont do it , Dont go there , dont dont dont dont

I will come around and teach you a new word one day lol
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 09:16

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 09:16
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (VIC) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:51

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:51
nope.... happy with it as is....

steve
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Reply By: Mark R - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 11:21

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 11:21
Hi Eric,
I'm with Stephen and the others, fine as is
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Reply By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 11:46

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 11:46
No way would I convert it - it is fine off road and might not be quite as strong. I think the issue of off road limitation is more emotional than fact.

Andrew
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:01

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:01
I got a question was the first 100s live axel or IFS, cause i'm sure i've seen one with a live axel or was it the last 80s that looks like the 100s ??? Eric it's not whether someone else would do it it''s whether YOU want too i say if you want to do it then do it and don't worry about what people say. If it was me and i had the money i would.

Live axel Explorer

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 21:23

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 21:23
What is it with the Yanks taking the doors off their 4bys?
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Follow Up By: Snatchem - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 05:49

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 05:49
Baz, I'm sure the 100s had live axels until late 2002 from then on only the std model does.

Snatchem
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 13:09

Saturday, Aug 07, 2004 at 13:09
Hi Eric,

When I bought my GU, one of the major considerations was that the 4.2TD cruiser was IFS. As much as i do not like IFS for off-road, I could not see myself changing it on a NEW vehicle.

The main reason for this is that you would lose your warranty. The warranty issue was why I didn't buy a std diesel 100 cruiser and simply add a turbo. However, if you look at the 2nd hand market where warranty isn't an issue, then you may find a market, particularly in years to come when IFS is all you can get.

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Reply By: Vinnie - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 00:10

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 00:10
Eric
The base model 100 comes with a live axle.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:06

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:06
Hi Eric,
I have to say that I have been in several 100's around our clubs training track, which isn't a difficult track by any means, and they have handled it very well, much to my surprise and much better than I would have thought given the slagging the IFS cops from the world in general! And I don't know if I'd pay that much money for a car that would be potentially damaged every time I took it out..... (same as I wouldn't by a new Nissan if they were that price or a new Explorer or Jeep or..... )

BUT

If I did, and the IFS was to prove inadequate for what I wanted, an extra $4K on top of the exhorbitant Toyota price wouldn't be too much to get the performance out of it, I would think.

The lower spec 100's still are available in rigid, yes?? So if I were to consider buying one, I would probably buy the rigid one anyway.

Lets hope that Mr Nissan follows suit and keeps the DX and the ST as a live axle variant... let the ST L and the TI have the ifs.... keeps everybody happy!!

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Reply By: Member Eric - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:32

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:32
Well we are all aware that the standard comes out in a live axle , there is also a GXL model with live axle that comes out diesel with no turbo and only auto . I really cannot understand why they will not give you a Auto option on this vehicle . We can always add a turbo easy enough .

From the replys we have . I think it is way to early to develop a live axle for the 100 series .

Also I have noted that it will be a hard core option.

Thanks for your input people ,
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 18:22

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 18:22
I think it's a post that would be more for the outerlimits or overlander forumites as you would find more hard core offroaders. I think what you have in mind is ahead of it's time as most are using like GQ's for the hardcore stuf at the moment and will move onto the GU's more down the track. Many years before these are worn out.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 19:37

Sunday, Aug 08, 2004 at 19:37
This was the porpose of this post . I alway new that the hard core boys would want it , but wanted to know if tourers would also . I at least have my answer and saved some money for development lol . I will file it under

Afew years down the track lol
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Reply By: fozzy - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 08:21

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 08:21
i would certainly be interested to know more before saying yes as someone will bring out something sooner than later.
dont want to get into debate but i ifs t/d gxl auto was only choice
wanted new vehichle,auto,t/d with split tailgate not barn doors and nissan had a little less room in drivers seat compared to cruiser
4k is lot of money but not much more than set of lockkers and certainly would help from clearance prospective
would 4k mean we keep original gear to sell or would we lose that in deal?
would love to talk to someone who can do
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Reply By: Member - Gary W (VIC) - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 14:09

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 14:09
Not me. But ask me again after a bit more rough stuff. IFS hasn't let me down yet and 4G's is too much.

Gaz
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