Tyres MTRs or STTS
Submitted: Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 16:40
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James M
Im upgrading my rims and tyres on my GQ. I currently have 235 width. They are a 31" tyre. I want to put on a 33" tyre but not sure whether to get 305 or 285. I'm thinking of MTRs or STTs.
Which tyre is the better one for 80% off road?
Also what are the advantages of the wider tyres if any?
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 16:43
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 16:43
Go with MTR's. Coopers STTs wear out real fast, although are good.
What sort of offroading do you do would assist with width of tires.
Remembering to go to 33x12's you will need engineers to stay legal.
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Follow Up By: James M - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:01
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:01
Hi Truckster,
What sort of 4wding does the extra width help. I notice that there are a lot of capable 4wds with narrow tyres eg troopys and defenders.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:56
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:56
the STT is also ALOT noisier inside the car even at slower speeds, than the MTR, and is no where near as thick, or strong in the sidewall as the MTR either.
[have cut them up and looked, poked, cut, and tested]
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Reply By: Utemad - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:03
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:03
I will also be looking for a M/T 31x10.5 in about 2 months time so I might as
well jump in :-)
I am looking at BF Goodrich, Cooper STT and perhaps the Radial Baja Claw but probably not the BAJA. Have also heard good things about the Goodyear MTRs but never seen one in the rubber.
STT treadblocks look a bit too close together for a M/T.
Mine will be used mainly for rough tracks/4WD parks so driving in bigs ruts and over rocks etc. Not mud so much.
I am currently using BF KOs so I am inclined towards the BF as I have had such a good run from these.
What do others here use in this sort of terrain.
Thanks.
Utemad
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Follow Up By: James M - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:09
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:09
I hear the side walls on the coopers are much stronger. I've heard very good reports on the STs, but don"t know anyone who has run the STTs.
Many people in the club run MTRs and are very pleased.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 21:47
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 21:47
Theres a humerous test in one of the mags at the moment that would have you buying HTs..
According to them BFG's are better than claws in mud, and on rocks... as i said, humerous.
STTs too close? they are one of the better muddys round, they are just noisey (So are most MT), and wear real fast.
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Reply By: 2ndLow - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:19
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:19
Hi JamesM, my GQ is running 32" MTR.....very happy with how it perform in wet condition especially when it come across rock.....I had BFG MT(old model) and AT before....seems MTR wear quicker then others due to softer compound....don't know how to compare to STTs.
People who go comp know the best......so if more people use MTR for comp, i would go for it.......
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Reply By: Tim - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:23
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:23
A certain 4WD mag that comes out MONTHLY has a big thing about muddies in this issue, that might help?
Tim
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 21:48
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 21:48
yea, I havent read it but judging by all the posts ripping the article apart on OL, it would go along with the usual magazine test...
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 22:25
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 22:25
I'v had the MTRs for a couple of years & wouldn't change. A bit noisy with the windows down on the black but on the dirt they've all got to be the same noise. I have used them down as low as 15psi in the soft sand & 25psi climbing up rocky
creek beds and have never let me down.
I have a mate who is a Cooper agent and guess what he uses on his 4by ------ MTRs
Where abouts is home for you cause I can tell you where you can get a good price if your in Syd.
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Follow Up By: James M - Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 05:40
Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 05:40
I live at Narrabeenn in
Sydney.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cocka - Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:49
Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:49
We're almost neighbours - I'm at Mona Vale.
Beaurepairs gave me a great price (and service) in the Alice but I'm not suggesting you go there. However try them for a quote at B'vale. Then Brookvale Tyre Centre in Roger St - used to be run by a good bloke but has changed hands recently. The best prices were at Tempe Tyres - I wouldn't go that far for one tyre but if you want a full set it's worth it - they were $55.oo /tyre cheaper than a local supplier.
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Reply By: Member Eric - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 23:26
Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 23:26
had a quick read of 4x4 monthly . Liked the compario. Dont forget the not comparing hard core patterns , I agrre with most that they have said . I do want to see next months hard core tyre test .
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Reply By: sean - Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:16
Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:16
Did a recent trip and vehicles had MTR, BFG, ST and others. Terrain was 2600km of dirt, sand, some long corrugated sections and some rock.
What was found was the MTR was the stiffest tyre and had to be run at 18psi compared to 22psi for the Cooper and 26psi for the BFG to get the required footprint on sand and softening on corrugations. Basically, any tyre test on equal pressures would not be a fair comparison becuase each tyre has different sidewall characteristics.
The MTR was definately the harder ride on the corrugations based on pressures.(and the MTR bloke has BFG previously so was able to also comment).
So although the MTR is a superb tyre, it may not be the best choice for dirt road touring where the corrugations are constantly trying to break the vehicle.
Just my opinion.
Sean
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Reply By: Utemad - Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 15:39
Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 15:39
Check out the article at
MT/R Goodyear
Click on the magazine to download.
Utemad
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 16:03
Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 16:03
or this one
MT/R
Says good for rocks but no as much for mud also.
Utemad
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Reply By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Sunday, Aug 15, 2004 at 10:03
Sunday, Aug 15, 2004 at 10:03
Just fitted MTRs to my 100 series did
Adelaide Innamincka Birdsville tyres show no
sign of wear still have moulding flash on them would recomend them. Great in the sand rock and gibber
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