slipping down a hill in 4x4 how to minmize the risk
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 21:31
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norves1
i went up a
hill on the weekend in a patrol and relized it was to slippery for the climb and my mate started to go backward s slowly and lost control and slid down the
hill . lucky with little damage .so how do you minamize that from happening
Reply By: fourstall2000 - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 21:36
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 21:36
Join a 4wd club and partake in a
driver training course.
Seriously to ask this question you must require training in this most important aspect.
The stall start technique is essential to provide safety in the situation you describe.
Most club provide this training and you get to meet great people.
Regards
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Follow Up By: norves1 - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 21:42
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 21:42
thanks for that
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 21:47
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 21:47
walk the
hill first, check it out then dont attempt it if you cant walk it.
Or join a club they teach you all of this.
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Reply By: AT4WD ADVENTURES - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 22:05
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 22:05
Here is my moto for obstacles.......SGLTAD
Stop.
Get out.
Look.
Think.
Assess.
Decide.
I recommend training as
well.
Stuart.
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 22:25
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 22:25
You can also go to professional 4wd instructors, but the clubs are mostly excellent. Ask them if/what they teach & join up.
Where abouts do you live ? There may be a club member living close to where you are.
Also the latest "Gold" version of Aust 4WD Monthly has a range of driving techniques for different circumstances that are
well written that would help, but the Club is still the best option - money
well spent when you think of what the consequences might be if you get it wrong.
You were very lucky - avoidable accidents kill many people.
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Reply By: Member - Geoff & Karen - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 22:39
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 22:39
I totally agree with all of these suggestions norves. we joined a 4wd club and i learnt so much about
hill starts and what to do if you stall going up or down, it is a amazing what they teach you. Hubby is good at 4wd ing, but i didnt want him to teach me, the instuctors are brilliant. Take their advice and join a club................you arnt the only one who needs to learn............
Karen
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:34
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:34
Karen,
teach a lady? i thought the female race knew it all and didnt need instruction in anything....
well at least thats what my other half says!
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff & Karen - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 18:16
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 18:16
Well we nearly know everything, but there are some things i just needed to brush up on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
Your other half is right in what she says though...............
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 18:37
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 18:37
what can I say !...
with out being rude!
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Reply By: stitch - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 23:38
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 23:38
It could be a number of factors....Tyres, traction aids not available (diff locks), was it a clay surface??? It must have been raining or recently rained for that to happen. Having experience in these situations helps a lot as
well.
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Reply By: fozzy - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:59
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:59
get into reverse as quickly as possible and try and back down (easier said than done)-not always possible either
use judgement as to whether stall start ### note wont work on steep slippery
hill because as soon as you hit brakes to stop rolling back the car will slide to bottom of
hill and if u have tried stall start u wont have steering as the steering lock will lock.
stall start in reverse is great in some situations but not all like above-get some training from mates or club etc or find your limits in different conditions.
obove all note that anything can happen out there-hats half reason for taking on challenging tracks for your typre of vehicle
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 21:32
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 21:32
It seems that only a couple of people got to actually answering the question and most did not even understand it. At least you did try. The guy was sliding down the
hill! Throw out an anchor and I do not mean the misses.
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Follow Up By: fozzy - Friday, Aug 27, 2004 at 08:21
Friday, Aug 27, 2004 at 08:21
basically im sure all of us havebeen in a situation which in hindsight was not the best position to be in regarding attempting a track which conditions were not suitable for our vehicle set up and im sure the track you were taslking about someone else in another vehicle may come along and drive straight up-there is always going to be a better set up car or driver around.
my response above is what i would try and have done but simply put sometimes you are just a passenger and it doesnt matter what u do to try and get vwhicle under control again-put simple again look at touring car drivers or rally drivers-when u pass your and cars limit-hang on(doesnt mean u cant try and get under control
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 12:58
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 12:58
Mentioned above about training is important.
Stall recovery is extremely important to know and there seems to be a lot of different versions of this technique that people teach.
The most important thing is to keep your head and don't rush.
Also driving and automatic or manual will change the way you handle these situations entirley.
If you do an "australian" search on google for "stall recovery" you'll find some instructions on how do to this, but obviously training is the best solution.
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Reply By: gottabjoaken - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:08
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:08
Perhaps "slipping" is the key word.
In a 4x4 you should either be stationary or driving.
If the vehicle is slipping, then either drive it in the opposite direction, or drive it in the same direction, until you gain control - ie stop slipping.
Easier said than done.
Driver training has to include experience in this sort of situation too.
The "get out and look" option is definitely the best, and you always realise it AFTERwards!
Ken
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