Bushranger Snatch Strap - anyone had any problems with these?
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:49
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Chumpion
Morning all.
I bought a Bushranger snatch-strap about 2 months ago, and 2 weekends ago I finally got to use it. I have a landrover defender, and we had a 100 series landruiser pulling me out. On the second attempt, the strap broke about 2 feet from the eylet end, sending the whole strap flinging back underneath the cruiser.
Has anyone else had any problems with these? As it turns out, the car was pretty
well stuck, BUT the cruiser was driving up
hill on dirt, and the strap is supposedly rated to 8t. It probably shouldn't have broken, should it?
In the end, we did use the strap to anchor a patrol to a tree, and winch the landrover out. So it was good for something....lol
Reply By: Vince NSW - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:03
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:03
Take it back for a refund. Bushranger should have a warenty on their products.
I have one that has never been used so you have me worried about if it will let me when I most need it
Vince
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Reply By: Member - Mark (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:12
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:12
Pulling a vehicle that is heavily stuck is pulling alot of dead weight. Sometime the weight is equivalent to 2-3 times the vehicle's weight, particulary is sticky mud. They also wear out. Get cuts and nicks as they drag over rocks and other objects. The fibres also get weakened when stored wet (like tents) or if oils/fuels get contaminated on them.
From what you initially said I believe the starp was new so it woudn't have had any wear and tear. But it still might have been weakened by oils/fuel etc if not stored properly. I wouldn't have thought it would snap like you said it did, but I wasn't there and I don't kow what the conditions were like.
Alot of snatch straps have an in built warning device in them. Some red couloured threads within the webbing. When they show it means it's been streched beyond it's capabilities and should be replaced.
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Follow Up By: Chumpion - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:24
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:24
It was still in the original box, in a draw in the back of the car. Besides, it was only 2 months old.
I agree with the warning red stitches, but we didn't think to check that - the whole scenario was:
* unroll strap,
* attach to tow ball on cruiser, tow hook on defender.
* lancruiser took off, didn't work.
* the cruiser backed up, closer to me, then took off again, and it snapped.
In Bushrangers defense, it does have a 5 year warranty, and I can just drop in to any dealer (Autone, ARB, etc..)
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Follow Up By: Member - Patrick (SA) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 14:00
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 14:00
Hey Chumpiom
I would be quiet wary about snatching off the twoball. I have heard bad stories about tow ball flying off a a milion mile an hour.
Patrick
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 16:51
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 16:51
Bushranger is owned by ARB, and warrnaty shouldnt be an issue.
But never ever EVER!!! put a snatch strp on a tow ball, ever!!!!
Put ot on a rated hook, or the pin in the hayman reece tow bar if you have to.....
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:30
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:30
Did you use a snatch blanket on the snatch strap?
What has the
shop said about the snatch strap?
Get $ back and go buy an ARB one, used
mine dozens of times without issue.
MSSDB
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:27
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:27
My Snatch Strap Doesnt Break?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 15:16
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 15:16
didnt break....
;)~
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Follow Up By: pjd - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 20:13
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 20:13
about 5 months ago 4wd monthly did a test on snatch straps & arb failed the following mag had a full page apology just straps passed & were highly recomended but not shaw who one
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 23:18
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 23:18
... and since then they have rectified the issue.. not that I believe anything written in magazines.
Again my ARB has been used at numerous
driver training days, numerous trips with club and mates, and is still going strong. I have a new ARB one now as a spare.
YDWYL
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:06
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:06
Recovery equipment should be purchased on quality, it is a safety issue
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Follow Up By: Chumpion - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:18
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:18
Is Bushranger not a quality brand?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 17:49
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 17:49
AFAIK, Bushranger is just an import company...they source their gear from all sorts of
places overseas. (BTW, so is ARB with a lot of their stuff).
Some Bushranger stuff is very good (eg: Maxair compressor), and some is very ordinary (eg; the older typr compressor they used to sell or maybe still do?)
Snatch straps should be able to do the job at least once. Was the stuck vehicle "trying" to get out as it was being snatched? IE: did the driver have it in gear and
wheels spinning?
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Follow Up By: Member - Rohan K - Friday, Sep 10, 2004 at 16:15
Friday, Sep 10, 2004 at 16:15
Bushranger got a good score ("highly recommended") in that previously referred to magazine comparison.
Mine has been use a number of times with no apparent ill-effect.
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Reply By: Billy - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:18
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:18
Didn't one of the strap suppliers have some quality issues a little while back...discovered when one of the mags did a comparo? Can't remember which one but I think ARB was involved?
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:31
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:31
I have my stretch straps made for me by a rigging supplyer, tested and rated to 14000 kg the cost is not that much more.
I believe that when dealing with the weight of cruisers and the LWB nissans you need the heavier ratings
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:48
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 13:48
I've had
mine for about 1 year (it's a mean green by opposite lock) and I finally used it for the first time a coupe of weeks ago.
It worked fine, it took two snatches to get me out (after digging with long handed shovel).
Thank you mean green.
Only problems with recovery were:
1. Photo's taken by members in our group clearly show houses and laughin residents about 20 meters behind my car (as I was only 5 metres off the main road!!!!!).
2. The only other vehicle out with us was my mates Daihatsu Feroza which was the car to recover me!!!!! ARRGH.
I should have opened the cameras and destroyed the film! LOL
To think of all the mad
places I have taken this vehicle and the first time to get it stuck since I have owned it (december last year) it was there in those circumstances. DOUH!
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 18:59
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 18:59
I once saw a pile of gravel in a small
parking bay off the side of the road in
Lady Bay (60km South of
Adelaide) on the way to
Rapid Bay. Thought it would be fun to drive over - was only about 4 metres in diameter. Took the MQ Patrol over in 2wd and - bang -
wheels started spinning over the gravel. Thought to myself - no probs, just put in 4wd. Started to drive and - bang - still no traction.
Well actually I was getting traction, but only on the surface gravel. Truck sank to its belly. Though no problems, got a shovel, started digging, the further I dug the more the truck sank into the gravel.
Ended up flagging over a XF ute who pulled me off with a piece of string.
Moral of the story - don't drive on gravel piles!
I'm sure this reply will help get you over the embarrassing photos!!
D-Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 19:33
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 19:33
ha ha, yeah I always seem to ease through the hard stuff and then get stuck like a mother in the easy stuff!!
In my old 4wd I thought I'd cruise along this sand track on the side of a very busy road, started climbing up the
hill got almost to the top and bellied it! 90% of the people laughed out the windows as they drove past and the people who stopped to help couldn't even get half way up the
hill! DOUH!
Ended up exuast jacking, shovel, old fly screen doors and wood under
wheels and lot's of guys pushing the bullbar. LOL
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Reply By: Member - Paul- Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 15:08
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 15:08
I'm glad i wasn't involved in that recovery. Imagine the towball parting company from the towbar and disappearing into either your radiator or windscreen. The stored energy in a snatch strap under tension combined with about 1/2 a kilogram of steel ball hurtling towards you would surely put a damper on the rest of the days driving.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 15:17
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 15:17
Did you see the jeep image I posted here the other week with towhook thru rear of car, THRU headrest, thru windscreen, and laying over the bonnet with hook still attached?
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 17:03
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 17:03
I knewit!!!!!!
Sooner or later I would agree with GO-OFFROAD!!! AAAARRGGGHHHHHHHH!!
:-)
But he is right!!
NEVER, EVER snatch off a tow ball!!!!
And always remember that the first step in recovery should be to dig as much sand/dirt/mud from in front of all wheels as you can to make the snatch as easy as possible.
Snatch recovery is a dangerous game and people have been killed by not "playing" properly!!!
Go and do a 4 wheel drive course with a club or an accredited trainer or something.... at least you'll be able to come to your family after a day out on the tracks!!!!
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Sep 10, 2004 at 09:16
Friday, Sep 10, 2004 at 09:16
Why do I feel like I need a shower all of a sudden??
8-)))))))))))))))))
DMc
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Reply By: navaraman - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 17:36
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 17:36
My concern witth all these strories about snatch straps/ recovery hooks etc. failing is htere is usually an attempt to justify the failure by saying "As it turns out, the car was pretty well stuck," The first step of any recovery should be to assess how stuch the vehicle is and attempt to dig out, jack p and road buils etc before reaching for the snatch strap. I would also have thought winching, which was apparently an option, should have been considered before snatching.
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Follow Up By: Chumpion - Friday, Sep 10, 2004 at 09:08
Friday, Sep 10, 2004 at 09:08
We did try to dig the car out, jacked it up a couple of times, put branches, rocks and stuf under the tyres, but the mud was just too deep and slippery. We had a good half foot or so of clearance uder the chasis when we finished digging the second time, so we just assumed the snatch would work.
There was quite a lot of suction in the mud - that was what was holding us back. the car was kinda backed into the whole mess .
And the winch was from a passer by - right time and place, only about 2 hours too late! lol
Still, fun was had, lessons learned, and all that stuff. It was the first bogging of the defender, so I was pretty happy about that. I was bought down a notch or two, which is always a good thing for a
young guy.....
Cheers
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Reply By: Davoe - Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 18:34
Thursday, Sep 09, 2004 at 18:34
Unfortunately I dont recall the brand of snatch strap but at a minesite I was at the contractors used our (I wasnt there to say no bleeping way) snatch strap to pull a service truck (big 10 wheeled truck) out of the saltlake and back onto the causeway with a grader so no it shouldnt have snapped as ANY recovery of a 4wd no matter how bogged would be only a fraction of the effort of the forementioned recovery
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