LISTEN TO RUTH!

Submitted: Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 03:29
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Just returned from a 2 week Desert Trip up the Birdsville Track, then via Walkers Crossing to Innamincka and down the Strzlecki Track to the Flinders Ranges.

Walkers Crossing in particular was fascinating. Such a diverse change in scenery along the track.
The track is well signposted at intersections with other tracks to assist the traveller.

Did an interesting 50 kilometre waltz in the mud the first stretch out of Mungerannie but apart from that, only one little glitch occurred about 130 k’s south of Birdsville and this is the topic of the post heading.
I BROKE MY REAR WINDOW on the Jack.
The bl@@dy stone imbedded in the bottom left corner of the glass was about half the size of my little finger nail and it missed the rear mounted tyre but not the glass. My Off Road Trailer was fitted with a mesh style deflector but the stone must have bounced off the Drawbar or perhaps the deflector frame.

So - LISTEN TO WHAT RUTH TELLS YOU !!! Fit a piece of cardboard or other impact absorbing material to the window. The deflector does little except maybe protect the trailer.
A “minor” inconvenience to a successful trip anyway. Held the glass together by some strategically placed duct tape.

Missed meeting Willem by a couple of days Ruth told me.

A couple of high points of the trip should be mentioned.
A mandatory trip out to Big Red had to be made by me of course.
The 40 litre Engel and dual battery system (USB 77Ah deep cycle battery coupled to a Piranha DBE 150S MKII Electronic Isolator performed exceptionally well, as did the Bridgestone 694 Dueller tyres.

One thing I did find out though. The bull dust plays havoc with the gas cooking equipment.
It may pay to invest in some spare jets if you use this gear.
(fortunately, the camp ovens didn’t block up).

I’m now thinking of changing my screen name from “Sand Man” to “Mud Man”.
(is it already taken?)
Took the Jack to the car wash today to use a pressure hose to remove the worst of the mud.
Exploremites let me tell you, while I was cleaning the Car, the attendant was cleaning the Car Wash Bay. He! He! He!

Overall, the Desert Experience was all I expected it to be and the pre-planning I did, primed with information gained from this ExplorOz forum, (except for ignoring Ruth’s advice) made the whole experience all the more enjoyable and memorable.
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 07:17

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 07:17
Yes............ Listen to Ruth, she has the travellers welfare at heart AND she makes a mean Cuppacino!

I was lucky with the mud...neighbour down the street who bludges endless mcoffees and biscuitd has a top of the range KARCHER with all the right fittings and he did my vehicle in a very short time.....in the back lane, ofcourse. I wasn't going to drop clay in my backyard.
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Follow Up By: Glenn (VIC) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 11:11

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 11:11
Ruth also cooks a mean big breakfast.....mmmmmm
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Follow Up By: hl - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2004 at 11:28

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2004 at 11:28
Just did the same trip, stuck at Mungerannie for 3 days!
But did not make it across to Innamincka which we planned.
Had stone hit on LAST day of dirt, between Hawker and Yunta.
Window did not smash, but later that evening there was a loud crack and it went like a spider web.
BTW, small barn door window on GU patrol. Cost only $770.00.

Cheers
Horst
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Reply By: Gajm (VIC) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 08:58

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 08:58
Good advice, on our trip a few weeks ago, we stopped to check on a family who had stopped to change their last spare, about 50k's from Camerons Corner, he had a CT with the stone guard mesh across the front, but he was unlucky enough to bleep ter the back window on his 100 series.
Was only the blokes second day in his trip too, 2 staked tyres, one when he pulled off the side of the track to take a pic of the dry lake bed, no more spares, a bleep tered back window, and he'd lost the outside of his Anderson plug on his CT lead.
I didnt have any hit my window this trip, but will be fitting perspex, before one does.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 10:50

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 10:50
Do you get the perspex cut or is there a cheap brand available?

Thinking about a 100series. Thanks.
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Follow Up By: Gajm (VIC) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 12:25

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 12:25
I will just buy a couple of pieces (GQ, 2 back windows) roughly the right size, then trim them to fit with the jigsaw....run slowly
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Reply By: D-Jack - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 12:42

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 12:42
Will you just stick on the cardboard with duct tape? To the person who said perspex, how will you be attaching it? Surely the stone guard on the CT must do something for the vehicle. You may have ended up with stone dents in backside panels without it. Good thoughts though, I would have though my rig was pretty safe with the stoneguard

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Follow Up By: Steve L - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 13:00

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 13:00
I have found the stoneguard on our CT to be perfect. It is angled downwards as well as having the ends angled back (centre section only is perpendicular to drawbar).

The first trip we went on we didn't have the guard, and used cardboard (thankfully, given the number of stones we heard hitting the cardboard). Since fitting the stoneguard, we haven't had a single stone go anywhere near the rear windows.

I think, given the number of different designs avaiblable (both CTs and stoneguards), that a lot depends on the design the individual has as to whether there will still be stone problems - some obviously work a lot better than others!
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Follow Up By: Gajm (VIC) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 13:12

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 13:12
I will be putting the perspex on with that adhesive velcro tape.

I haven't had a stone come close to the window either, but figure it only takes one, so for peace of mind I will whack the perspex on.

The guy who had the broken window had the same CT as me, but he also had not set his stone guard properly, which we fixed a little too late.
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Reply By: Wombat - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 14:26

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 14:26
Can somebody please explain to me how a stone can possibly hit the front of the camper and richochet into the vehicle's back window if the stoneguard covers the section from the rear of the vehicle to the front of the camper completely?
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Reply By: jackablue - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 15:12

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 15:12
Sand Man did you have any other extra mudflaps on the jack, like large truck ones?

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 23:52

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 23:52
No Mate,

Thought the deflector would be sufficient.

I also had a trapeze (Shade Cloth with elastisized rope along the sides) but after experiencing the muddy conditions, decided not to connect.
(The trapeze would have lasted about 5 minutes in my estimation)
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 18:17

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 18:17
Sand Man,
Some people have used the sun guards that go on the front screen and taped them to the back, I have even seen foam sleeping mats used to protect the back window. How the stones hit the back window with all the protection I dont know but I do know that they do.
I have also just got back from the Simpson Desert and have been down to the car wash to have the mud removed and like you the attendant was cleaning the wash bay as I was dropping mud.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 21:10

Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 21:10
Thank you Sand Man, you little sweetie!!!!
I didn't believe it either and have had people come in who have travelled 100,000Ks never happened to them before but get on the Sturt Stony Desert - bingo. Have seen it happen with perspex fitted with suction cups and stone lodged between perspex and window and shattered. Hello Wayne - glad you made it back.
Strangely enough when I do offer these bits of advice I do it for the sake of travellers - is distressing for them to know they've got maybe $1,000 to fork out of their holiday money to fix the back window/s and have another 2 - 3 weeks of their trip left with plastic and tape only.
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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 12, 2004 at 00:08

Tuesday, Oct 12, 2004 at 00:08
Hi Ruth,

Thoroughly enjoyed our stay in Birdsville and it was great to meet you.
The yabbies tasted good and we visited the Page Family Grave. Thanks for the directions. It was a sobering experience identifying with this sad tragedy.

The duct tape, along with the tint film I suspect, held the glass in sufficiently so that my trip wasn't spoiled. I must admit though that some of the corregated section of roads (eg. the Coongie Track) tested my patience somewhat.

Actually, I was REALLY worried at one stage that I had also lost my ExplorOz sticker, but I had attached this to the smaller door and it was OK. LOL.

Hopefully, my Insurance Company will assist in a replacement window.
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