camp site pigs

gdaya wolfie.
worse part about it all is that wombat forest has been in the papers a fair bit lately because they want to close it to every one people like this dont help.
cheers

Mmmmmmm................

I am not aware of your local politics, and pending closures etc.

Thing is, the powers that be, probably don't care WHO is responsible, they just want to close it.

We still need to get a message across in the wider arena, to the general public, that we, the 4 wheel dive owners, are not all evil. Probably shutting the gate after the horse has bolted, but hey, if it's going to close, then you may as well have your say.

I don't know what the future holds for us all. I read with more frequency, the posts here about toilet paper & shlt left all over the place. Sad thing is.... it's left by people who have spent waaay more money than me & you combined on their 4 x 4's, and still manage to bugger things up. Go figure.

I don't think having us sit for licenses, or do courses on how to camp & drive 4 x 4's will help.... look at all the licencend people now that manage to kill themselves out on the open road.

I believe the answer is going to lay in the private sector, with managed campsites. Managed being policed, wether you like it or not.
The days are fast approaching when You can't go out in the wild yonder, and park your bum where you want, but you will have to check in at a local station property, get a key, same as a caravan park. Seems a bit harsh, but it may be the way of the future... knowing full well that the other people that are there, have also paid their good money to enjoy their stay, and would also like to go to sleep.

Cheers

Wolfie

The Wombat was a no charge bonus Bernie. Been there a number of times and the first time I've seen one. This fellow was obviously an early riser.

The Bush Telegraph...

If you report them, you have to be willing to go to court personally.

Then as you walk out, the 10 of them that have just been fined $5000 each would take 3-4 of your teeth each as down payment on their fines.

Thats the problem...

How about the EPA litterbug and exhaust smoke reporting scheme. Apparently many hundreds have been fined. Don't know how many have lost teeth though.

Ray..
The EPA scheme you dont have to personally front up and see the people you are acusing, and point the finger "IT WAS HIM".

This was brought up at our club meeting as to why it isnt working. People have to stand up point the finger, and walk out the door next to the bloke who he has just bleep on.. You dont think they are going to share latte's do you?

No your information is wrong Bruce. They will send out an on the spot fine, roughly about $200. If they wish to contest in court then you may have to front up but if found guilty then fine is around the $4000 mark.

All the info is on the EPA website.

Are you talking about the smokey car one or the bush telegraph?

http://www.parkweb.vic.gov.au/1ministory.cfm?story=48

I'm talking about the EPA smokey car and littering reporting scheme, isn't that what you're talking about also.

smokey car and bush t are different things work different ways

Fay D Away, you've probally hit the nail on the head. How many of us have good photo and video equipment??? I know I always take the Digital video camera when I go away. Luckily the only times I've had this problem were in large communal camp sites where you're kinda asking for trouble to stay at, but it still wasn't as bad as your description. But I'll keep it in mind now, if I ever am placed in that situation I'll just quietly video tape the bastards, take some clear photo's of the regos and hand it all off to the authorities, DV cameras embed the time and date into the video stream so there is no question it was them at that time. We use DV cameras for legal surveillance and PI work with no problems with the courts using it as evidence. By the time the morons have figured out you dobbed on them , your long gone!

I saw a bloke once fire a shotgun into the dashboard of a Holden Panelvan. At first he frightened the occupants off and then did the deed. Made an awful mess of the stereo. The sklence was deafening afterwards. They left in a hurry. It never made the press but I believe the panel van owners shifted back down south from up north soon afterwards.

It is always sad when one is forced to camp next to such a mob and the Wombat Forest has such heavy issues resting on it.

They were supicious as they new i road dirtbikes just by looking at me, cause as you know we are all the same us motorcyclist just dirty pigs that leave campsites in a mess unlike the 4WDrivers who left theirs spotless !!

Baz.

Hi Baz,

Hope all the family are well mate. Half expected you to make the pilgrimage on the one wheel drive last week end, then I didn't get to the other race a week back either.

Hope we can get up your way and catch up sometime....