Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 17:28
Well what an interesting little thread developing here.
No personal abuse here but lots of experience. A Range Rover can be an excellent choice for an inexpensive 4wd, and I have recommended older rangies as such for those who want a very capable but inexpensive vehicle, with certain qualifications
Regarding the cost of ownership- fuel consumption on my 3.9 V8 is on a par with any petrol 4wd- 14 to 16 L/100K on highway, 19 when outback touring. The 3.5 carb model doesnt fair so
well.
Cost of maintenence if done by the dealer can be high, but
shop arouind or do it yourself. You see with a little bit of searching, you can find lots of
places selling OEM parts cheaply and there are so many Rover nuts ( i mean that in a nice way) that there is plenty of help available for the inexperienced. Do the work yourself and they are cheap to maintain, just don't buy the parts from your LR dealer. Now there are some people who jsut should never maintain there own vehicles and given the dealer service costs for RR, there are probably many Rangies serviced by these people and that could be the reason there are som real dogs in the used market.
There are several keys to purchasing and owning a rangie-
Don't buy one with an engine that is already tired/noisy unless you have access to another engine. One really quick check is to pull a rocker cover off, and look at the residue inside, if it is black rather than tea coloured, don't go near it.
Check the compression prior to purchase, check the radiator by running the car in sand or something to work it hard, stop the engine and put your hand on the back of the radiator, check for cold spots, usually the bottom will be coldest if the radiator is blocked which is a common occurrence. It blocks becasue it has horizontal rather than verticle elements, so be sure to flush the system annually and use inhibitor.
The older they are, the more work is required, If I was buying an old Rangie ( and I've bought two), I would and have taken them straight home, pulled the engine out and replaced welch plugs and head gaskets, but hey I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to reliability/maintenence. For a really tired unit like yours, I would have negotiated the price based on the need to replace the engine, and there are several
places you can get complete engines, and after fitting you will have a very capable 4wd that will still have cost you less than the equivelent Toyota/Nissan.
Reading the horror stories in a recent post, about the Nissan 3.0TD, I think you have bugger all problems by comparison. If you want answers to specific RR questions, feel free to email me adminatdjolsendotcom
There is nothing intinsically wrong with Range Rovers, the 3.5/3.9/4.0 motors are as reliable as any petrol engine you can buy. The marque has a bad name from a certain period of time, and that has blackened the whole range, but the engine never was the problem.
So here is the rub, stay away from early model HSE's, with HEVAC systems, EAS and all thoise electronic goodies (baddies). Buy a rangie with coils all round preferably a classic from around 1990 for the budget end or a 1995 lower spec 4.0 for those with around $40K to spend.
If you are looking at the lower end of the market, keep $5K handy and calculated into the price for just the kind scenario you have.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 17:42
Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 17:42
Gday mate,
Just the answer I was looking for...and I think that the 'interesting thread' has been put to rest.
I'm considering taking this as an expensive learning curve, waiting for a registered unit to pop up in QLD and buy it, at least I have the extractors, 2.5 inch exhaust, new tyres, gearbox and transfer all in good order.
Have kept your email address and will be sure to pop you an email should I get even more confused.
Thanks for your help mate, and the time you spent replying!
Cheers
chris.
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Follow Up By: David O - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 18:12
Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 18:12
Also go here
http://www.comcen.com.au/%7Eblumx/index.htm Go to the
forum.
for help from those "rover nuts", just remember the golden rule of forums- the advice you get is as good as the price you paid for it!
Since it is free, its often not worth much, but you learn to filter the info and sort out who knows what they are talking about. You also learn to do the simple stuf first before you take anyones advice to pull the whole thing down or something.
Cheers
David O
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 18:17
Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 18:17
Thanks mate!
And understand about the advice, I can see where your coming from. Just had a bone to pick today with someone who is always critical of others replies! But definitely see where your coming from mate...
When it's free, don't complain. ;-)
Cheers mate!
Chris.
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Follow Up By: David O - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 19:58
Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 19:58
LOL No I meant the Range Rover
forum, there are some people on there who will give bad advice but they mean
well....still I like your assumption :-)
David O
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 21:38
Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004 at 21:38
LOL
maybe you guys could organise a group buy
8-)))
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