Space Blanket to the rescue.....

Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:04
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..... or does it?

I sort of understand about reflective / radiant heat, and sort of how a space blanket works.

Question....

If I decide to use one in my swag, over my sleeping bag, will it keep me warmer? Will the space blanket have to have another layer of bedding on top of it, and be trapped between them?

I'm trying to work out a better space saving way of having my swag set up for a wider set of conditions when doing extended traveling. Trying to get it down to one mid range bag, and maybe a space blanket & liner.

I know they are sort of crunchy and noisy, but I sleep okay with noise anyway.

Cheers

Spaced out Wolfie

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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:16

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:16
Ian,

Maybe slightly off topic Mate but where do you intend going?

I have only ever used a sleeping bag (used as a quilt just on top) in my sleeping bag and have never been cold. The swag itself should contain a lot of your body heat.

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Follow Up By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:18

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:18
Bugga!

Let me rephrase that.

I have only ever used a sleeping bag (used as a quilt just on top) in my swag and have never been cold. The swag itself should contain a lot of your body heat.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:19

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:19
Bill,

16 day Beadell tracks tour, in May next year, so I'm bound to have a fair temp variant.

So far I've been fine, but that's in the temperate areas, like Woomera & points south.

Just sort of trying to hedge my bets.

Cheers

Wolfie
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Reply By: locallaw - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:21

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:21
Gidday Wolfie,
One word comes to mind "condensation".You could get very wet under the space blanket.
Seeya Locallaw
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:23

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:23
Now, that's something I hadn't considered.

Thank You.

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 21:03

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 21:03
Ian,

Condensation is a real issue. Don't use them as a regular way of keeping warm. They are best kept as an emergency thing for when you are freezing and need extra warmth. Use them daily and you'll spend all day drying out your bag.

I know of a bloke who got lost in the bush and found a car to sleep under with nothing but a space blanket he carried in his pocket for emergencies. Kept him reasonably warm for the night.

I'm talking here of a thin sheet of alfoil type that folds up to pocket size, use it once and pitch it type ($2.50 at the cheapo shops). Not the Coleman type that looks like a tarp covered in foil.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: locallaw - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:30

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:30
Gidday Wolfie,On a trip accross the Simpson I threw a tarp up along the side of the 4by as it was a good evening.Sure enough it started to rain so just pulled tarp off 4by and covered up.Woke up next morning wringing wet including clothes bed everything."condensation".
Seeya Locallaw
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Reply By: Rhubarb - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:49

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 20:49
I would just use a donar (quilt). If you feel cold put a beanie on. Still cold layer up with clothing. Anyway you probably know that.

This has never let me down, even when camping in -0 conditions.
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Reply By: Earvin Johnson - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 21:40

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 21:40
Wolfie,

I have slept in my swag on some pretty cold nights (once where I forgot about the dog and I woke up to find him covered in frost) and found that one sleeping bag and my beanie was all I needed.

It's suprising how much warmth those swags can hold especially when it's a double - is Mrs Wolf going;)

I have also used a hot water bottle before when I was in a tent which worked well.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 22:47

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 22:47
>I have slept in my swag on some pretty cold nights (once where I forgot
>about the dog and I woke up to find him covered in frost) and found that
>one sleeping bag and my beanie was all I needed.

If you won't care for your dog properly don't take him camping and, preferably, find a home for him with someone who will.

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Follow Up By: Earvin Johnson - Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 18:22

Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 18:22
Thanks for your advice Mike, but he gets looked after better than most. SWMBO thinks I care about him more than her :)

He accompanies me most times when I am out 4wding and camping and absolutely loves it.

Action has been taken to ensure he does not get hit by the frost again ;)

So please don't get too worried about him. He appreciates your concern though, god bless ya.

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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 22:44

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 22:44
The hot water bottle is a good suggestion and the water can be reused night after night. It's certainly kept me warm numerous times.
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Reply By: ev700 - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 23:20

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2004 at 23:20
Use a silk inner sheet, YHA size is good for one..

Wear polypropylene long john thermals.

Beanie (up to 30% of heat lost through unproteceted head).

Put a sealed foam layer under swag. Because cold comes up from below. Scout shops, Kamart and others have the right rolls of foam. Look thin but work well.
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Follow Up By: Chumpion - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 15:15

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 15:15
Just a slightly off-topic question.

Where does that 30% body heat figure come from? I have heard all sorts of figures, from 10% to 80% of body heat lost through your head.

Does anyone know what the actual figure is? And how that came about?

Chris
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Follow Up By: David T - Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 03:42

Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 03:42
I think the 30% figure might apply to newborn babies - they certainly put tiny beanies on the prem babies in the neonatal nursery and these guys are already inside an incubator with an air temperature ~34 degrees.

It's much less than that in adults - but it not something that isn't worth minimising by the application of a stylish beanie!

DavidT

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Follow Up By: Chumpion - Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 15:35

Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 15:35
Kool - thanks for that.

I was sort of picturing running around naked in the cold, and how cold I would be, then putting a hat on, and seeing how much warmer I would be.

I would be guessing not too much warmer.....

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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 07:49

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 07:49
Note to Wolfie.....

DON'T use space blanket.... condensation
Find the Thermo Silk Liner Tracy got me, and use it
Find Beanie that Tracy got me, and use it

Isn't it funny....... Tracy knew all along what to do! I had to look at a high tech NASA Space Blanket thingy, but all along, she knew.......

Just imagine if our Mum's had the job of designing & dressing astronauts!!!! "I don't cate HOW hot it is on Mercury, you wear that bloody scarf, or you'll come home with a runny nose...."

Cheers

Warm Wolf
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Reply By: Bazza - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 08:07

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004 at 08:07
G'Day Wolfie,
Really only designed for emergency use, if you do'nt have any other means of keeping/getting warm. They can also be used for another purpose ...... because they are so small and take up so little space, I always keep a few of them in the first aid kit, as they also make a very good signal reflector. You never know, could come in handy one day.
Regards,
Bazza.
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