80 series steel wheel failures
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:50
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Jim7
G'day
I have an 93 model 80 series and travel each year a lot in the outback as
well as being an active member of a
Sydney 4WD club.
I have had the vehicle for 13 years now (250,00km) and the thing that most worries me is that to date two steel
wheels have failed at the weld between the rim and centre. This failure shows up with slow leaking of air. It is quite hard to find as you normally go looking for a punture. THe leak is found using
water poured around the weld.
My question is ... Has anyone else experienced this problem.... What did you do about it (change to alloy
wheels?) .... Any other comments.
Cheers
jim
Reply By: charlie - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:54
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:54
Cant help with the problem sorry Jim but cars sure do age fast where your from. Does that hurt the resale?
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:54
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:54
Hi Jim
Are you running 15 or 16 inch rims
Ray
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Reply By: Squire - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:56
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:56
A 93 model that you've owned for 13 years??? Do you have a time machine?
As for the steel rims failing like that, I've had that happen to a couple of rims that I had on an offroad buggy that used to get thrashed pretty hard but they had been cut and offset to improve the wheel track. (The next set had extra reinforcing to stop it happening again.)
But I haven't seen it happen to standard steelies. Can you get a wheel specialist to weld them back up?
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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:18
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:18
YES! I have a 93 Troopy RV. It came with Delta Alloy rims (15" x 8"). One wheel had a constant slow leak which I couldn't find so just recently I gave it to the tyre mob. They found a small hairline crack in the alloy rim. The wheel is now tubed.
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Reply By: cruiser - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:29
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:29
I have had 2 80 series cruisers and it has happened on both of them.
The tyre
places i have spoken to all say it is pretty common on the 16" GXL rims.
My suggestion is alloys as the genuine rims from Toyota are around the $500 mark each, and to get them secondhand, the wreckers want around $150 ea and there is no garauntee that the same thing wont happen again.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:18
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:18
Hi
This is a common occurance with the factory GXL rims, they are prone to failing at the welds, and thats probably why they are so expensive to come by secondhand....there is plenty of need out there.
Other than that, they are very robust in the outback and wont buckle like the ROH/speedy etc etc rim if loaded up accross the simpson (for example).
Alloys will solve the problem, but you then need to look at the type of 4wding you do...the alloys are prone to cracking/damaging rims if hit by rocks with tyres aired down.(steel will bend but still seal)
Using tyre plyers on alloys soon damages them by scratching also....
So i would stick to the GXL rims if you go outback, and aquire some good spares.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 15:44
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 15:44
Hi Jim
If you need some
wheels, i have just advertised in the 4 sale section 4 alloys with tyres...i also have some GXL steel rims, if you are looking...call me if u desire.
Andrew
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Reply By: Noosa Bushtrackers - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 18:55
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 18:55
We had a 96 model 80 series petrol that I thought had Alloys on, but one wheel failed in exactly the same manner as you described.
We fitted a tube in it, and not long after traded it on a 100 series.
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