Mix steels and alloys?
Submitted: Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 10:56
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Member - Mungo Explorer (NSW)
I'm about to get a second spare for more remote trips - I have alloy
wheels but I assume steel is cheaper? If so, is there an issue with mixing steel and alloy rims in an emergency? I'd put back the alloy as soon as possible.
Reply By: beatit - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:14
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:14
G'day Mungo,
Just be carefull with the wheel nuts they may be different for alloys versus steel. Still you can take the right wheel nuts in any event.
Kind reg
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Reply By: Davoe - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:16
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:16
only issue would be with different overall diameters of the tyres fitted which create more wind up if in 4wd and if fitted to the back can make your lsd diff work hard as one wheel is turning faster than the other if the diameters are the same close no problems especially for an emergency spare
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Follow Up By: Member - T-bone (ACT) - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 14:52
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 14:52
This begs the question - if you're driving around on four pretty clapped-out tyres that used to have high tread blocks (insert name of appropriate mud terrain tyre here), get a puncture and replace it with a brand new, unworn tyre, is the overall diameter difference going to be significant enough to cause problems with wind-up?
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 20:24
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 20:24
good question I guess the answer would be yes but shouldnt create a problem coz you are in 4wd in low traction areas so the wind up is slipped out. As it is tour front and rear
wheels turn at different rates anyway. I think the biggest problem would be if you were fitting significantly different diameter tyres on the back. I guess the ultimate answer is that I am currently looking at a vehicle with 2 spares the 2nd is the standard splittie and I wont lose any sleep over it
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Reply By: flappan - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:31
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:31
Nope . . . no issue.
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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:58
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:58
As per Flappan, No Issues (apart from asthetics)
Providing the rims (and tyres) are the same diameter as others on the vehicle there is no safety issue.
It is quite common (and legal) to have wheels/tyres on Camper trailers, etc. that match (in size and stud patterns) those on the towing vehicle.
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 13:49
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 13:49
As said before,wheel nuts.I carry a spare steel rim,have alloys on the vehicle and the wheel nuts are totaly different.I carry a set for the steel rim in the glove box.
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 19:03
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 19:03
Shouldn't be an issue
I run steels out bush and carry a spare alloy as I have two sets of
wheels. Have to carry wheel nuts which only fit with the alloy.
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 19:16
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 19:16
Mungo, I am so glad you asked this question, because I. like a wanker, have been running around with a new spare for the Honda, like the stud pattern & profile is all good, but I am just SO goin' to suss out the wheel nuts tomorrow!
May even have another look at the Delica unit while I'm at it.....
Note to self........ get knotted boot-lace....... proceed to whip ones-self until blood appears...... while chanting "Om Padi - Ian you baddy - Tracy will be saddy - If & when she gets a flatty...."
Im off, got to go find my Riggers boots.......
Cheers
Wolf With Welts
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Follow Up By: Member - Mungo Explorer (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 22:45
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 22:45
Wolfie, I wish I had some of that stuff you were on when you posted that... :-)
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Reply By: Member - Mungo Explorer (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 22:46
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 22:46
Thanks everyone, no worries then except to keep a set of steel nuts. Just what I thought but nice to have it confirmed by the ever helpful bunch of guys and gals here...
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Reply By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:41
Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:41
Well looks like another thing I have learned. I didn't know that
Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
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Reply By: Noosa Bushtrackers - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:28
Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:28
The only issue that I know of is that the hubs that are set up for Steel rims often have shorter studs than those for Alloys, therefore the Alloys that have a thicker plate may not leave sufficient room to put nuts on.
We had this problem when we were the first Bushtracker Owners to want to put Alloys on the caravan. Simplicity suspensions who manufactured the hubs only allowed sufficient stud length for steels and they then had to re-do all the hubs to allow the tow vehicle alloys to be fitted to the caravan.
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