I drowned the Explorer
Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:41
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Baz (NSW)
The Wollondilly river claimed the Explorer on Saturday while out exploring tracks in the area the only downer for our hols , it was the crossing on the return journey that claimed us in hindsight should have put a blind on (hindsight is a wonderful thing) but as we made the first crossing with no trouble didn't think it would be a problem.
The only thing at the time that was a worry was while sitting in the car while my mate Mick (thanks Mick aka Fatz your a champion ) was trying to put the shackle on with the snatch strap, was the car filling up with water becoming boyent and rolling in the river as we were near a row of large submerged rocks and my daughter was in the car with me as
well as the dogs, i couldn't open the door because of the current and didn't want to climb out the window and leave her behind either, Mick told me to stay in the car just in case, thank goodness nothing happened and we were pulled out in time .
The car sucked in a gutfull of water and it has bent a pushrod or valve and not to mention the interior is soaked, the water came up to the top of
seat height what a mess .
Sunday and monday was spent trailering the Ford
home and then going back to pick up the campers both me and Mick have campers Ruth (aka Penguins wife thanks Ruth and thanks
Penguin for your vehicle) came down from
Sydney and picked up Micks camper.
To my disbelief it is covered by insurance so instead of thousands $450 excess
Baz.
Reply By: jackablue - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:45
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:45
Sorry to hear that Baz. What insurer are you with.
Jackablue
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:12
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:12
Allianz, thanks mate $hit happens eh.
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Follow Up By: Uppy - Member - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 16:11
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 16:11
sorry to hear that, Baz but the main thing is that you and the family are ok,I hope the rest of the year picks up for you
kind regards uppy
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:47
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:47
Oh Baz How could you????????
WELCOME to the CLUB! Been there and done that...even with a blind in place.
Now, after repairs, is the time to quietly trade it in on a newby :o)
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:04
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:04
I'm a dumb ar$e i know and yes Willem it's time.
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Follow Up By: flappan - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:45
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:45
You dont mind if I keep that quote for future reference do you Baz . . .
Baz said . . . . I'm a dumb ar$e . . . .
Thank you ; )
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:40
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:40
He said that after his High country expedition and excitement, sorry to hear about it Baz, but Marie is much closer to us getting a
snorkel tho now, so its not all bad news.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:48
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:48
PHOTOS!!
if you get stuck in a river thats flowing fast OPEN YOUR DOORS FLOOD THE CAR.. it will sink. This sounds bad, but its better than floating down the river and possible doom.
So, going to sell it this time? ;)~
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:56
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:56
Absolutely agreed. Getting traction is the first thing you need in order to GET YOURSELF OUTTA THERE.
It may not be the natural thing to do, but it is the most sensible - after the "non-sensible" decision was made to go into deep fast water in the first place.
Landy's have bung-holes in them for a reason..... not to let the water out...but to let it IN.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:11
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:11
Oh! and Baz - sorry to hear about it! If your insurance works out OK, then it's just "one o' those things"....... :(
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Follow Up By: Member - Mozza (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:49
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:49
hey truckster... a couple of weeks ago you posted a link to 'Peter's Frontera'.. is he a member here?.. or have you got some contact details for him.. i wanna know how he got a 3" lift on the Frontera!@.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:10
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:10
Haven't looked at them yet the camera was in the car at the time so maybe only of the cruiser pulling us out taken from the passenger
seat.
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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:51
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:51
eh there Baz,
VERY glad to read you are all okay in what was a potentially disastrous situation. Wow, thank God you were not on your own.
God bless and kind regards,
Jeremy.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:15
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:15
Thanks, yeh you can say that again Mick was a great help.
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Reply By: 3.0turbob - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:52
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 12:52
Baz,
Sorry to hear about your troubles, the main thing is that eveyone is OK, (some worrying moments I'll bet). What part of the Wollondilly were you crossing, ie location (out towards
Wombeyan caves isn't it?).
I too am amazed that the insurer will take care of the car. What company?
Hope all goes
well quickly and you can be back out in the bush soon.
Rob
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:21
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:21
Yeh it was a worry but OK now, we were near Wollondilly river Stn on the Mittagong side over the back of the Nature retreat there is an old 4WD park in there we crossed there.
Allianz;
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Reply By: flappan - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:00
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:00
Final nail in the Exploders coffin eh Baz .
Good to hear you have it sorted though.
Want to plug the Insurance Co . . . might be worth looking into.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:33
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:33
yea didnt think engine repairs would come under insurance since they are something that wears out...so you do 400k klms and drown your donk and get a new one for $450! Sounds phukin sweeet to me!!!!
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:53
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:53
Gearbox, tranny and diffs too, comes under water damage.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:02
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:02
Must have been those shoddy trans case repairs !!
Geez champ, bit of a bummer, glad everyone is OK
It was on a marked road ? hence the insurance cover ? What company out of interest?
Handy tip - before crossing, attach the snatch strap to your recovery points and place it up high, ready just in case... Thats if you have another vehicle along.
i agree with the others, get it fixed and send her on its way
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:27
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:27
Yep marked road and crown land, Allianz, seem to be OK so far and we were going to attach the strap before hand but didn't do it hindsight hey still worked out OK thank god.
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:11
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:11
Baz,
Good to hear you are all OK
For further advice on the manouver you attempted CLICK HERE
Sounds like the Ford might be on the short list.
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:31
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:31
LMAO!!! GOLD!!!!
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:51
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:51
ROTFLMAO, thats funny have to save that in favorites.
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:19
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:19
WOW!! Baz, must have been a big worry for a few mintues there, glad to hear you, your daughter and the dogs are safe.
Thats grea that the insurance have covered it. phew!!
cheers
Crazie
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:54
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:54
Bloody oath, now what to buy next.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 17:00
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 17:00
Baz.....sorry about the anguish you sufferred, but is probably all for the best in the long run.....LOL
Now, quote: "now what to buy next"................
I would have thought that would have been obvious: 2 choices
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1) Army duck
2) Nissan Patrol
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:29
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:29
Whats your interest rate on a loan mate lol.
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 19:21
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 19:21
goodday baz
sorry to read about your little mishap maybe if you produce your EO member card roachie will coff up with a better than normal rate lololol
steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 20:03
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 20:03
My rates are as follows:
For a Patrol = ?% (very negotiable)
For a kruiser or other make-believe 4by = 50% plus your kids, wife and grandma as collateral.
LOLOLOL
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Reply By: Member - Steve (ACT) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:20
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:20
Hey Baz,
Glad to hear that everyone ended up ok, sorry about the 4by, and I'll second Trucksters call PHOTOS!!!
Sandy and Steve
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:56
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:56
Hey Sandy thanks, photos will come.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:23
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:23
Hi Baz
Welcome to the club!!! Its not a nice feeling when your feet are underwater trying to operate the pedals is it. Very glad to hear your insurance will cover it.
I had a situation years ago where i was stuck (lake/swamp, not fast flowing water) and had water coming in the doors. My
snorkel kept the diesel engine running (exhaust was underwater) but the amazing thing was my electric winch actually worked underwater!!!
And I learnt not to keep my winch controller behind the
cargo barrier, I had to climb out the my door window, over the roof and opened the rear doors to get the winch controller. Once I got myself out, had to drainbleepe loads of stinking swamp water out of the door sills, lower panels etc and also checked all oils (all OK). Even though the standard 80 series are vinyl floors, they still have cloth type underlay that took days to dry out.
But I was very lucky overall, no damage apart from pride and some hard learnt lessons! Hope your vehicle comes back OK, but i think you were a bit deeper than me!
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:09
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:09
Not a club i really wanted to join but well $hit happens, first thing we did when we got back to camp was drain the oil, take out the plugs and try to turn it over to blow the water out but it wouldn't turn, a lot of water came out of the oil and it stinks too and the inside of the car smells really bad not the sweetest smelling river water.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:35
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:35
Gotta be any 4wdrives worst nightmare, especially with kids/pets in there too. Some nice photo's on your rig pics!
Glad everyone is ok! Maybe it's
snorkel time! :-)
Can you get a
snorkel for the explorer? Or would it have to be a custome made jobby?
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:02
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:02
No snorkle for the explorer has to be custom made i thought about it but we are getting another 4b not sure what yet although a turbodiesel 100 series Landcruiser would be good, thats what pulled me out and towed us back to
Sydney, 5 people, 2 dogs the explorer on a car trailer and the back loaded it sat on 110kph on the freeway never took it out of 5th gear from Mittagong very impressed indeed.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:49
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:49
Allianz is our insurer greenslip as well it came as a shock to me, as i said to the guy on the phone i didn't think that dumb ar$e acts would be covered but they are, also we were on crown land and the river is crown land too public road so to speak, you can't own a river.
The first crossing was a cake walk and it was walked first too, i think what swamped us was the going in off the bank on the other side coming back as it was a little steeper on the approach so the front of the car was more submerged than when we came in on the other side it was a more smoother and flatter approach.
There is a possibility the Explorer might be written off as parts are so expensive for them, not sure as yet the insurance bloke comes out on thursday to look at the car.
Make a note, next vehicle must have a "snorkle" whatever it may be !!!
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Follow Up By: flappan - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:54
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:54
I have heard of a couple of motors being replaced as you describe , as a result of a major mishap , that involved things other then the motor.
Heard plenty more rejected though . . .
Written off . . . that would n't be SUCH a bad thing . . . fingers crossed . . . maybe sling him a few bucks to make it happen . . .
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Reply By: Member - Landie - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:53
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 13:53
Baz
Glad to hear everyone was recovered safely.
Many posters appear surprised the insurance company are covering you.
Generally, comprehensive insurance will cover you for damage or loss anywhere you are entitled to be, after all it was an accident - that is what you take insurance out for.
Regards
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Follow Up By: flappan - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:25
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:25
But rarely for the motor only.
If you drive your vehicle into a creek and the motor carks it , yet , no other damage is visable , wanna bet the insurance co wont be interested. Could simply have been a motor blowup that insurance doesn't cover.
If other things are damaged , as it would appear with Baz(and the other incidents that I know of) its a different matter.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:14
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:14
Hey Barry it surprised me too there is other damage carpet, seats electrical items in the car diffs and Gearbox too. we'll see.
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Reply By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:11
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:11
G'day Baz
Sounds like a rotten way to finish your holiday but you seemed to have pulled through OK with insurance.
I know this is off track a bit but up
Bundaberg way late last year we had a double drowning when a person thought he could cross a swollen creek. His vehicle got taken down the creek and the driver managed to escape. The worst part was he had two girls in the car with him and they didn't make it. They were not his own kids either. both childeren drowned.
I know that is awful but be glad you got the vehicle out ok and YOU HAD SOMEONE ELSE THERE WITH YOU who could help you get you out if it went pearshaped.
Sorry for the depressing post but where you were allright someone else was not.
Good luck with the repairs and let us know who the insurance is through. Photos would be nice too but I imagine you would not had taking photos on your mind when you were stuck.
Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:04
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:04
Just heard on the radio not 5 minutes ago the bloke is to be charged with unlawful killing of the two childeren.
Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:20
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:20
All these things crossed my mind i was ready to abandoned ship dragging nessie out with me but Mick got the strap on just in time so it worked out OK.
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Reply By: madcow - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:44
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:44
Welcome to the club Baz, I drowned my Gu on the Hortons track crossing in the Mitchell river Cup weekend 2002. Yep! an eary feeling watching the water pour in BUT I did dictate where the vehicle ended up and no one was hurt. Just a severely dented pride. Result, vehicle written off due to water going over the dash. Apart from that it was in excellent nick ( and pretty clean inside LOL). I managed to retriev all the valuable bits off it before the insurance company's assessor got to it and they even repaired the Engel.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:25
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:25
Not a good club to join and yep very eary indeed not something i want to do again in a hurry.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:49
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:49
Mate, sorry to hear of your excursion there into submarining. You should go better prepared for that one in future. Fancy me saying that, and we know how to bog!!
Just back online here with this baby laptop so I hope to get email out to you soon.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:01
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:01
Yep will email you tonight, one thing i didn't mention that water was bloody cold.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:02
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:02
Heather says you forgot to phone us.......
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:15
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:15
We were going to but no coverage on the network lol.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 20:37
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 20:37
So......Vanessa's still keen to 4WD with Dad?
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Reply By: Member - Paul J (ACT) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:24
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:24
Sorry to hear about your misfortune, glad to hear everyone is alright. I know what your vehicle is capable of, ive seen it tackle some tough shlt since you fixed the transfer case, i think it was just bad luck on the day, like Mick (ACT) at Yalwal, and all his damage he came out of there with.
Maybe its a good thing if it's written off, and you can move onto something more capable of lugging that Taj Mahal around behind you, hehehe.
Glad you had some good help with you, (Captain Underpants) and Ruth coming down to help as well, good on em!
Talk soon, Paul..
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:38
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:38
Captain Underpants to the rescue, it is great what Mick has done for me a true friend and Ruth too very good of her to come down to help, and the camper i think it gets heavier every trip.
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:37
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:37
Gee Baz sorry to hear that, glad you Ness and the girls are ok, good to hear you're covered too...
cheers
Lyn
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:35
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:35
Thanks lyn all is good now and might have the new car by Murry Sunset that will be good hey.
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Reply By: Penguin (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:44
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 15:44
Hi Baz,
Write-off you say - ooooh yes please!! One 100TD coming up!
So glad to hear you guys survived the Explosion/drowning. And you with a stuffed back too. Did you hurt it before or after (or during)?
Glad Ruth was able to be of some help to you. Look forward to
camping with you (and your new beast) soon.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:39
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:39
Very much appreciated Mike thank you heaps and after, while packing up old war wound, well bike crash.
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 16:43
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 16:43
Hate to state the bleedin obvious, but next time walk it first. If it is too deep, or the current is too strong, it is better to find out that way...
BTW did the same dumba$$ thing myself a couple of weeks ago (submerged hollow log decided to cave in at the wrong time.
Photos
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:32
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:32
Wont let me in without a name and password
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Reply By: Member - Karl - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 16:53
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 16:53
You lucky bloke, now you can get a Cruiser (or a Patrol if your so inclined). LOL
Glad to hear that you are safe and it's a nice area of the state the Wollindilly River.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:40
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:40
It is aspecially when your swimming without the car !!!!
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 17:16
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 17:16
G'day Baz,
Hope you had a great holiday up to that point!! As all the others have quite rightly said; the car is of no consequence as long as the occupants are all okay.
The fact that you're covered by insurance is a bonus and will help to ease the pain and suffering.
Happy car hunting; I'd be recommending a Cruiser or Patrol for the kinda work you do.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:57
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:57
It was great up till the incident and yes it's only a car after all it can be replaced people aren't as for the new stead it is going to be a 100series Cruiser live axle 99 to 01 4.2 diesel with turbo, the Patrol was not chosen cause the girls find it hard to see over the bonet it seems to have a lower seat height than the cruiser which might account for that and the Landrover Discovery well parts prices and not holding it's value very well was it's demise a shame cause i really like the Disco and i'm only one part of the decision making after all, so Landcruiser it is.
Baz.
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 17:40
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 17:40
Baz....
I am awfully sorry to read this.
I know a lot of people say it's just a vehicle, but it still sucks.... big time.
I was interested reading the report about opening the doors. I would not have thought of this.
Keep us up to speed with your progress on the repairs and purchase of your new steed.
Take care....
...... Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:43
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 18:43
Thanks Ian got a bit scarey there for a while, i was more concerned about Nessie than anything.
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Reply By: pjd - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 19:31
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 19:31
glad to here you all got out ok! now you can look on the
bright side you dont have to drive a ford any more & can get a real 4WD
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 21:18
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 21:18
Sorry to hear of the Ford's drowning mate. But thankfully it was only metal and plastic that got hurt... not flesh and blood!!
Keep us posted, I agree with others that want pics.. :-)
The LC100 TD is a good choice mate!!!
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Reply By: Brad and His Disco - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 01:19
Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 01:19
Hi Baz,
Sorry to hear about yur accident and i hope all is ok. All the best for the new year!!!!
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:40
Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:40
Thanks everyone for your concern i haven't got pix only video and could only get a short bit loaded into 4WD links the other video was to large to load.
Baz.
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:48
Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:48
Glad your all ok Baz thats the main thing after all, cant afford lose any NSW Members in here we seem to be already outdone by the southern states.
Carolyn
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Reply By: Muddy Girl - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 19:02
Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 19:02
Hi Baz,
Glad to here all is ok.
How did you get on with the Insurance Guy today?????
Regards
Muddy Girl & John
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