Curiosity's got the better of me

Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:06
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On the weekend i took both front seats out of the trol so i could remove the 2 useless heater ducts that take up space under each seat.

I noticed under the passneger's seat there was some sort of electrical gizmo.....looked like a small transformer? Does anybody know what this could be? It had a few wires going in/out of it and one seemed be reasonably heavy (for today's Japanese vehicle standards at any rate when most wires are the thickness of the cotton that holds my jocks together!!)

I also noticed in the same location a reasonable number of wires going into an unused plug???? Could be for electric seats or heated seats etc.

Cheers

Roachie
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Reply By: BenSpoon - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:19

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:19
heated seats- possible.
Another possibility is an ECU diagnostics hookup point. I have noticed a fair few cars with theirs under the seat, but they do usually have diagnostic stamped into them somewhere. Is it capped?
have you got power seats at all? maybe a step down transformer for a motor in there or soething- it would explain the gauge of the wires.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:54

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:54
Thanks mate,
Mine doesn't have any heated seats (not sure if the TI model does) and it certainly doesn't have any ECU or diagnostics gear etc, being an old 4.2 banger...lolol
No power seats either. It's got me stuffed.
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:22

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:22
got another one for ya then: seatbelt pre-tensioners which go off prior to the airbags- I know new prados have em, no doubt Ti's would have something similar?
in regards to the no ECU, doesnt necassarily mean that the harness wouldnt have been installed- Ive got plugs everywhere on my 80- I found they use the same harness from base model to sahara, its only the fancy bits that get plugged in that make it different. I suppose that would support the seat warmer idea then too....
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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:34

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:34
It's the satellite tracking stuff. Whatever you do don't take it out, we need to keep an eye on you (LOL).
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:26

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:26
Geez Rod,

I've just tried plugging my GPS into one of those sockets and POOOF all this black and blue smoke came out and filled the air. Thanks for tip; mate...LOLOL

Now you won't know where i am, so you'd better keep one eye looking over your shoulder at all times....hahaha

Cya mate

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:28

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:28
Bugger
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Reply By: Member - iMusty(VIC) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:49

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:49
CD stacker from previous owner?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:28

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:28
No previous owner....I bought this joloppy brand new.

Thanks for the thought anyway,

Cheers

Roachie
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:15

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:15
I don't own a Pootrol, but I'd guess that the "box" is the Electronic Control Unit and the vacant plug, the diagnostic connection point as BenSpoon has mentioned.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:28

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:28
No ECU in this old-fashioned rig ol' mate......
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Reply By: JamieMac - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:24

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:24
Do you have the safety Pack? Could be a sensor to activate/deactivate the passenger airbag depending upon the weight of a passenger being present? Would save some dollars if you did not need it on the that side during an accident!

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:31

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:31
Jamie,

I thought you for a moment that you might have been onto something there, as this thing does have a passenger's air bag (not all GU's do).

However, then i thought a bit more about it.....I reckon the seat would have to be "wired" for that to work, wouldn't it? But I was able to pull the seat out without any leccy plugs going into the seat whatsoever.....so i don't think that is what it is for.

Cheers mate

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:24

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:24
Geez, I thought for a minute there, Jamie was having a go at Annette's weight:-))
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Reply By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:29

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:29
Whatever you do , don't cut the red wire!
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Reply By: Bros - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:41

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:41
Roachie,
Dont worry about it. Just the bank keeping tabs on their No.1 manager.
Cheers,
bros.
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Reply By: Leroy - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:47

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 16:47
I think you will find it's where the brain for an auto g'box is located.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:39

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:39
Leroy, That sounds like the most promising response to date, but I do wonder whether they'd be stupid enough to put them into the 4.2 model when a slushbox isn't an option with this motor. You've gotta remember that we're talking here about a company (Nissan) that are so tight that they'd rather get a whole stack of blank tail lights made up and fitted (because of Australia's ridiculous ADRs) instead of simply leaving the 'normal" lights in and simply adding the extra lights on the bumper bar. So, if they thought they could save a few bucks by leaving something off the 4.2 (ie: this little gizmo), I reckon they probably would've done so.
It's still got me stuffed.......remember, this gizmo IS actually wired in and (presumably) actually does do something......but there is at least one other unused plug under the carpet as well.
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Reply By: Member - Mozza (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:51

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:51
is it the wires that connect to the seat to show if the passengers seatbelt has been put on yet ? maybe someone put them on the wrong side??
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:50

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:50
Mozza,
Sorry mate, mine hasn't got any seat-belt-done-up warning light/s. It has a flashing seatbelt warning that comes on and flashes a few times whether you've got the belt/s done up or not.
Cheers,
Roachie
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Reply By: Member - Ray - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:10

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:10
Have you got the voltmeter out and whacked it on yet to see if is "live" and kicking?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:52

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:52
Ray, I guess I should've done that......too late now as the seat is back in and the box was almost out-of-sight-out-of-mind.
Cheers
Roachie
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:38

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:38
Roachie,
you obviously aren't a rocket scientists are you? Simply cut all the wires in and out of the box and assess the results. That will determine what it did.
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:25

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:25
Its a tracking device your Missus put in there to check up on you when you have a RDO hahahahahaha
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Reply By: Member - Frank - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:37

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:37
And Asio thought you would never find it
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Reply By: Member - Frank - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:45

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:45
if you must know there was a thread about service catalogs last week james chen I am buying a surf cat from hin after his responce and diagram re my rattle in the 4 wheel drive stick, he seems to have a wide range of these

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Reply By: Member - Ed. C.- Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 20:23

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 20:23
G'day Roachie,
Does your truck have ABS??
On models w/- ABS, I believe the decelleration (sp?) sensor is located under the front passenger seat....
I suspect that that's what said gizmo would be...

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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:08

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:08
Ed, beat me too it, ABS also has some smarts about being disabled under a certain speed, certain angle of the dangle etc, I think it is all in this box..
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:21

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:21
Roachie.
What you have found is an excelarometer, it supplies information to the air bag and the abs, the extra insulation on 1 wire is to protect it in the event of an "incident". Eric.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:21

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:21
I thought it might be the relay/seneor for the fuel transfer pump.
Yes it's in my 4.2 as well.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Reply By: Des Lexic - Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 00:00

Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 00:00
Bill, It is an upgrade loom, simply take the GU to the nearest Yota dealer and they can plug a gismo in which will then upgrade the troll to a Yota specs. Problem solved. What have you done to Pesty as he could have easily passed this priceless information on without your consternation.
Cheers Des
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:17

Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:17
But but but You have made a tactical error there Uncle Des. He wont be upgrading but rather downgrading to a 50 specs. Your Dyslexic disease comes to the fore. You definitely need treatment!!!

Maybe Roachie isnt talking to Pesty beacuae of Pesty's flash new CT!

It seems that Toyotas and Mitsubishis took the brunt of the damage over the MS weekend.....hahahahaha
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Reply By: Wombat - Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 11:10

Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 11:10
Roachie,

I think you'll find it's where the flux capacitator plugs in when you need to go back to the future.
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