Camp site etiquette?
Submitted: Sunday, Mar 27, 2005 at 21:10
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Member - Browny (VIC)
Now maybe I'm just jellouse but does anyone else find it an invasion of privacy when camping in the vacinity of others who have magnifficent sound sytems in there 4by's that weather it be day or night they play there music at a level that fairdinkum drowns out anything that you may want to play on your standard factory set up.
Spent a couple of nights at Pineapple flat over
easter with the wife and
young bloke ( along with a squillion others) I new it was going to be busy and that we would have to share
camp grounds with several other campers so was ready for the associated problems, but just trying to listen to the footy on sat'dy arvo to get the odd score with ordinary reception had to be done inside the car rather than in the
camp chair enjoying the surrounds, and any music Iwanted to play had to be turned up to a level that would cause my speakers to object slightly!
I was ready for the late night ra ra's that go with camping in a
well used
camp site (plenty of bourbon) but the "invasion of privacy" during normal hours was a real pain in the assssss.
Gee I could really go on about it being a reflection of society and so on and the ever increasing "stuff you Jack I'm allright" attitude thats creaping into life, and how...................................
Happy
Easter...................Browny
Reply By: ev700 - Sunday, Mar 27, 2005 at 21:30
Sunday, Mar 27, 2005 at 21:30
Where the problem is coming from is the upgrading of roads and the RV fashion - any fool can get to most
places now and many do just that.
I don't object to the sounds of fun and enjoyment. The sound of kids is great (even the occasional howl).
I don't mind modern generators except through the night when close by.
But I find it really hard to put up with (in descending order):
- the sort of noise and interference created by drunken louts;
- domestic blues;
- the dawn chorus of loud mouths and their %*(&^$# noise (do they really HAVE to bang everything?);
- radios; and
- recorded music.
Could all use headphones for music and radio, Please. Really carries across dead ground and valleys.
EV700
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Follow Up By: Member - Browny (VIC) - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 08:48
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 08:48
EV,
I know what your saying, but these blokes had the lot, lift kits, muddies etc. they could just about
camp anywhere, but for obviouse readings they choose to
camp at a location easily accessible.
Browny
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 09:42
Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 09:42
That's cause they are childish and like to show off with their mean machines on how pathetic they are.
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 07:15
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 07:15
That is the reason we travel alone and
camp away from everyone(except EO get-togethers) because I am one big bad neighbour. Whether it be camping or back at
home. I simply go over and tell people that I do not really care for their music and would appreciate it very much if they could turn it down...in a nice way...hahahaha. If we are camped alone at a place and someone else arrives I usually suggest they
camp a long way away as I snore, run a diesel generator, fart loudly and play Vivaldi at mega decibels....they normally get the message. On one occassion potential co-campers asked why we had put four jerry cans about 50 metres between
our camp and
the billabong. We explained that when the crocs knock em over it will give us time to get on top the roofrack and out of harms way. They left without saying g'day.
Another PITA are Fritz's in Britz's with campervans with sliding doors. They just couldnt understand why I lost my cool after they had opened and closed the door about 100 times in a space of a couple of hours. Bloody rude Australians! "Yeah mate, and the best thing you can do is to F..............F and go
camp somewhere else".
I must add that we have moved
camp on more than one occassion to get away from noisy campers, especially if the numbers were against us.
"Ya gotta know when to hold it"
"Know when to fold it"
"Know when to walk away"
"Know when to run"
With apologies to Kenny Rogers....hahahahaha
Hope you had a good
Easter!
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Follow Up By: Member - Browny (VIC) - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 09:12
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 09:12
Willem,
LOL, some ripper advice, I definately employed "the Gambler" theory, allthough after a bucket of bourbon an sat'dy night the odds didn't seem to bad............hehe.
But I must say that by about midnight everything was turned down so no problems there, just trying to enjoy my own stuff wes the drama.
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Follow Up By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:06
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:06
I'm camping with you next time Willem!!!! And I'm going to tie my tent up to the bullbar of your car - just like I see people doing here. Constantly amazes me that with a 30 acre
campground people always
camp right next to the next camper even when they don't know them. Before we put the fence around our house we would find tents tied up to the verandah and washing on our private clothes line.
Having said that - I have no hesitation in asking people to turn down their music, party or whatever (and I mean when I'm camping in the middle of the SD not just here) - I must be a scary sight in my nightie with my whip and chair (all lion tamers have them) - occasionally I have to pull out al stops. I also ask people (at racetime) that it is up to them to negotiate with their neighbours about the noise levels and parties but if it wakes me up in my house - watch out.
Yes it is a bit different in the way outback and yes we've employed The Gambler - in the middle of the night also. But, there's plenty of ways to skin cats - especially the really loud Vivaldi at 6:00 a.m. and emptying drums full of bottles into another drum at 6:10 a.m. etc. etc.
(Willem is really scary though - but not as scary as me).
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:16
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:16
Hmmmm....... Is that a proposition Ruth? LOL You are welcome to
camp with me any time...you know that :o)
I can just imaging you with your charming smile and steely eye telling campers where to go....hahahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 15:39
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 15:39
Sounds like the campers might not be the only ones told where to go :))
I must admit to having never had the pleasure of camping in the grounds there...camped out along the river a few times but that was a long time ago. Brings back memories.
I usually can't handle campgrounds, I like to wake up not hearing the bulldozers moving the empties :)
Didn't have any option when I was at Uluru last time. (solo trip) Noisy BBQ about 5m from my tent, one very large drunken nordish lady yelling out "vere is da man...I vant da man" until all hours. "Yeah", I thought as I shivered in my sleeping bag, "and I vant da gun !!"
:))
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Reply By: motherhen - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 13:23
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 13:23
We've been lucky - except for the occasional visit to a caravan park, we haven't been with cooee of anybody. I was a bit worried about privacy taking our holidays in SA in January, but we always found somewhere out on our own. A couple of times, we stopped in a large
rest area (Nullabor), but campers were
well spread out and fortunately very quiet. Previous trips (WA) we have also found secluded spots all the way. I hope the rest of Oz is that good to us when we get to see it.
A couple of years ago, at the Karajini NP (no choice there - have to use authorised
camp sites), first night out there was a large roudy "group" - youth
camp or something; kept up the noise most of the night. After climbing up and down the gorges all the next day, they fell silent at sundown the second night!
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 15:27
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 15:27
Apart from one mob of bikes that set up a generator, lights, action, disco and drinking within 10m of my
camp on the Coopers (on their way
home after
Birdsville Races), I haven't really found
young people to be a hassle.
One mob of oldies (I was younger then) made me blush at
Mataranka. If they'd of been teens I would of scowled at em.
Worst mob were a group on a bus/fly tour of the Cape. We were really tired,( muttering for &^%& sake go to bed under our breaths) but they had a sing along after the cooking sherry. No matter what the song was one old bloke insisted on singing about his bunch of coconuts. It went on and on until around midnight. Met the same guy at
the Tip, running past me as I was resting on a
rock. The female tour guide struggled up and informed me he was 75. I asked her "How does he do it ?" With an strange look she replied. "I dunno......but I wish he wouldn't !!! )
:)))
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Reply By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 16:54
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 16:54
I agree with you Browny
BUT it's no good posting about it here after the noise TO the converted.
You've gotta be prepared to belt some loud prickse.
But before I do I simply ask people to turn their music down first.
To 'normal people' I say I love your music but I have
young I just put to sleep. No matter what time of day. Most people comply and say sorry.
'Drunkards' are a bit harder. But they always have some mate who tries to settle it before anything really bad starts. And drunkards are drunkenly slow, easy to put down.
Then there's the f^&^#wits who can't be persuaded either way. I do ask them to turn it down but I am ready to move out if need be.
You have to know your limits. I overstep the sometimes, but we learn.
I might ad that I would rather get a smack in the jaw than be some ones bitche.
:-)
More to all and less to none.
iMusty
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Follow Up By: Member - Browny (VIC) - Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 20:12
Monday, Mar 28, 2005 at 20:12
iM
I'm hearing you, but we wern't really kept awake and the
young bloke slept through no problems so no "major" problems, just an inconveniance that doesn't have to be!
Browny
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 00:23
Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 00:23
Well after my weekend camping at a little town called
Coobowie on the
York Peninsula, all I can say is:- OH FOR THE BUSH!!!
It wasn't the music that had our section of the
Camp upset though.
Had a feral group of about 5 families from our neighbors in the Pacific and even the women were p!ssed by 10 o'clock in the morning and they kicked on until they passed out about 3 am, telling anyone who approached them to F*** Off.
Think they must have slept during the afternoon.
The really sad part was that this fine group of native NZ'ers had youngsters of their own. Nice example they are setting for them hey!
I believe the police were called on Friday evening and advised them to behave but they probably can only tell them to quieten down and as soon as the police leave, they just pick up where they left off.
Should have exterminated the vermin I reckon!!!
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 09:09
Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 09:09
>The really sad part was that this fine group of native NZ'ers
I take it you are refering to the Maori race who are hardly native having sailed to NZ only 700 to 1000 years ago. They are predated by the Moriori the Moa Hunters and the Patupaiarehe a pale skinned blue eyed red haired race who were there at least 2000 years before the Maori arrival. These other races were as you said exterminated :)
I guess you wont be going back there for the
Easter break.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 30, 2005 at 02:01
Wednesday, Mar 30, 2005 at 02:01
Mad Dog,
Perhaps I should clarify my reply above.
What I meant was exterminate the vermin that were causing the disruption to everyone else's camping holiday, not of course the whole Maori race, which I have found to be quite happy and placid.
These type of feral people are oblivious to anything except what they get out of a bottle of cheap plonk. (At least I drink quality stuff)
Nah! I would go back again. Nice place
Coobowie.
Unlikely to fluke the ferals again, as like us, they were "out of towners".
They just had a narrow focus on what holiday enjoyment is all about.
Anyway, thanks for the history lesson Mad Dog:-)
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Reply By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 07:55
Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 07:55
Being relatively new to modern camping and so far stopping at fairly populated
places, our experiences have been good. People spreading out, no loud music beyond a resonable time. At
Newnes I thought "oh no" when about 30 cars of younguns pulled up but they camped in an area away from everyone, and went canyoning in the day and played what appeared to be hide and seek games, lol, but not noisly or late into the night before they crashed. With such good headphones available I feel music of any kind can be enjoyed all night long without distrubing others.
I am lucky and can sleep through almost anything BUT I do wake early and start the billy boiling, lol.
We are off to the
Snowy Mountains shortly and it will be interesting to see how many others are there between
Easter and NSW School Holidays, it should be quiet I think.
Carolyn
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 16:24
Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 at 16:24
Said it before, say it again, dont go away on long weekends. Its not worth it.
One thing you can do, get a set of air horns, few air tanks on your truck, leave compressors running to keep air tanks full, and tape
the horn button on, and go for a walk. That should piss them off.
Postman Pat has the idea stay
home.
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Reply By: AndrewW - Friday, Apr 01, 2005 at 16:42
Friday, Apr 01, 2005 at 16:42
Haven't usually had any problems, until the last night this easter.
We were at Comet Flat, just near
Woods Point. People everywhere all weekend, but no noise or annoyance of any kind. Sunday morning, a few people left, and late Sunday arvo, the d**khead brigade roll in. Big cars, music flat out, using their bullbars to knock over small trees in the scrub, to put on the fire. The music started up quite early, so one of the wives went and asked nicely for them to turn it down. They did, begrudgingly, but the rest of the antics stayed. Luckily there were many small trees left, so they went to bed relatively early.
I would agree with the other posters about long weekends, but I find it very difficult to get any time off otherwise, and I figure its better to be in the bush than be at home, even if you share it with lots of people. Besides, 95% of people
camping are great people, it the 5% or less that give us a bad name, unfortunately. Usually they are reasonable though, and will stop when asked nicely.
Andrew
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