Camping Etiquette
Submitted: Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 23:13
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Troopy Travellers (NSW)
You have had a long happy day travelling, seeing the sights, you stop at what looks an ideal camping site, you both pitch in and quickly the tent etc is set up. The dinner is cooked, eaten and enjoyed, you sit by the fire watching the flames, the wine glass needs refilling BUT.......the dishes and
clearing up need to be done!!!!!!! I would love to know your opinions (accepting that this
forum is mainly males and it will be hard to get an unbiased opinion) on how this part of the day is handled....... Carolyn
Reply By: Nick R - Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 23:20
Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 23:20
2 ways to approach this, put the dishes somewhere out of reach of animals or use paper plates and burn them. After a galss or 3 of wine it would be irresponsible to handle anything like cutlery for risk of injury. finish the bottle of wine with your partner and retire to the 2 person swag, etc. the wife will take care of the dishes in the morning!!!
NickR
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:29
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:29
I hope "the wife" would remember this the next time "retiring to the two person swag" was an option. No doubt you would expect a coffee in bed while she did the dishes so she could then
cook you a hot breakfast and have plates to put it on.
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Follow Up By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:02
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:02
Oooo a coffee in bed would be lovley. Thanks.
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 20:43
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 20:43
mmmmmm coffeeeeeee White with one thanks.
Fact is I'm usually first out of bed making the coffee.
On the few trips we have done we have shared the preparation and I have done most of the cooking, the kids are getting interested in helping now so we must harness that with some washing up!!!
I haven't done many dishes.
Next trip 5 families, 4 nights, 1 dinner each and 1 couple all desserts. Sure there'll be some washing up there. only 2 sleeps to go!!!
If you decide to leave your stuff until morning try to put it where the animals can't get to it, dingoes and the like.
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Follow Up By: motherhen - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 22:48
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 22:48
I watched a fox lick the fat out of the pan one night - quite cute, only as farmers we hate foxes. Still, I didn't have the heart to say boo to it - helped the washing up task too!
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:42
Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:42
We
farm also, I find I never have the 12 guage when I see a fox close by yet when I go looking for them they are hard to find. maybe if I
camp and leave out the dishes they will come to me!!!
NickR
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 06:56
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 06:56
Hey Nick
I would love a fox tail for a hat!! Do you know how to cure them so they dont smell and fall apart? I saw a few pretty ones on the road during the last trip. I know it dates me lol, they used to be popular on car radio aerials once.
Carolyn.
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:53
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:53
Carolyn,
Sorry I don't.
You still see something like it on aerials still now and then.
Here in Vic a year or so ago you could get 10 bucks a tail so they were a bit scarce. Did hear a bloke picked up about 75 tails from road kill in a very short time.
DSE used to have heaps of tails, I'm sure they disposed of them now!!!
NickR
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Follow Up By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:55
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:55
I remember the fox tails on the arials, or was that streamers on the handle bars?
Im only late 30s an my memories going.
But I remember it was something dangling and cool : )
Im 37yo but my memory is going.
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Follow Up By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:57
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:57
And my memory is not what it used to be
: )
iMusty
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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 23:25
Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 23:25
Second the motion.
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Reply By: motherhen - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 00:38
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 00:38
When camping prior to our caravan days, i would leave the dishes out on the table overnight (leaving water in the cooking pan to soak), and wash everything up after breakfast in daylight, saving water and power. I shudder to think how much water and detergent my husband would use after the way he washes up at
home - i won't let him near the
camp dishes. My
camp cooking doesn't make much washing up anyway, so i don't mind. If it rained overnight, the job was even easier. I really don't mind considering he makes up for it by being incredibly nice when we are away on holidays - spooky really. Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:32
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:32
After not hand washing up for some time, I know what you mean, I used far too much of a concentrated liquid and it took for ever to get rid of it and lots of water. I am also economical in the utensils I use but couldnt leave it till the morning. Carolyn
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Reply By: Member - Ed. C.- Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:09
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:09
Aahhm...
She stays outa my shed, I stay outa her kitchen... period!!! end of story!!!
(Is that chauvinistic enough for ya??)...
When camping/travelling,
well, the "boss" packs all the "kitchen" stuff, & she has things pretty
well organised in that regard.. so, just like at
home, I simply stay outa tha way!!!..
I do however, look after all the "blokey" stuff, like settin' up tha camper, riggin' tha lights, gittin' tha water, riggin' the shower (if
water supply permits, so Her Worthiness can um, "smell pretty"), collectin' tha faarwood, stokin' tha faar, etc. etc. etc..... the list goes on..... (so I guess we're about even ;-))....
In reality, we have a fairly basic yet flexible routine that works for us, and at the end of the day we both have the time to sit gazing at the embers with a coldie or 3... haven't (yet) had a "domestic" while on the road or in the bush, so it must be workin' ok :-)...
But me washin' up????? WHAT???? Geez, I dunno 'bout that!!!
Regards, Ed. C.
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:35
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:35
Sounds pretty fair Ed, thanks for your reply. I just feel that its something you maybe should do together and then both be finished for the day and am interested in whats "acceptable" lol. Carolyn
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:02
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:02
We've never been able to leave them till the next morning, if away with the kids they do it, if only the two of us I usually wash up and the wife wipes or if campfire cooking (only plates, cups and a few utensils) I'll do it all.
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:38
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:38
A man worth more than Gold Peter. lol. Carolyn.
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:18
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:18
In our household we have a simple rule - cooks don't clean.
So .. as dinner is being served up, there is already hot water and whatever can be washed up is done. The water is kept and dishes are washed up as they are finished and left to drain. Which leaves only a small washup at the very end of a few odds and ends. Cups and glasses get a hot water rinse at the end of proceedings. Stuff is put away either just before retiring or in the morning.
Easy, and does not cut into campfire time, but creates a much more relaxed atmosphere knowing the work is all done. Seems to work fine for us.
Jack
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:37
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:37
Sounds like it works for you Jack, but the MOTH here would use every utensil available whilst I dont, lol. Carolyn.
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Follow Up By: Glenn (VIC) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:47
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:47
I concur with Jack.
As 99.9% of the time it is my 7 year old son and I camping, I just utilise water used in cooking as
well as heating more up as required whilst cooking. I also try and use minimal utensils and pots to ease the load. Once dinner is eaten, I enjoy a glass of red, or a beer as I wash, dry and pack up dishes before I sit and truly relax. This way I know that I wont have any visits by locals or bugs during the night. Preparation is the key, and practice makes, wel, almost perfect.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt Mu (Perth-WA) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:37
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:37
Here Here!!! Cooks dont clean!
But then again, many hands make light work! I cannot relax knowing there is a mess to clean up later. After a nice feed, a few minutes spent washing and putting all the superflous cooking atire away is time
well spent before truly relaxing.
Camp cooking is truly an art and minimising waste and water use is also a big part of that! In the imortal words and thick irish accent of the old SONY adds, 'its an art, an art worth your learning!'
Matt.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 00:47
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 00:47
Ok - this thread got me in. I seem to remember we used to observe the Cooks don't Clean rule - now what happened to that?
Anyway, I must admit this recent trip with the 2 little kids and the crazy hours meant I couldn't manage preparing 3 different meals in time so David did pitch in with our adult meal, leaving me only 2 meals to worry about but I still ended up doing the dishes mostly - the baby bottle preparation was just "too hard" apparently, and also I"m "too fussy".
But if truth be said, I actually don't mind washing up when camping - good way to get the hands clean, warm up if its cold etc. However I would also agree with Glenn M :-) that its best to get into a routine and have it all done before sitting down to relax with the drinkies.
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Follow Up By: Diamond (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:22
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:22
am i seeing things???
does it say that michelle is agreeing with
hang on wait for it.
wait.
wait.
glenn lol.
cheers.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:33
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:33
Well, looks like I appear to be the wimp.
We share most jobs, the Bride and I, so as the quote goes:- "we both pitch in".
It's not too much trouble for both of us to do the dishes, then sit down with the second glass (or bottle) of red and relax together.
Now if that bottle is really exceptional,
well bugger the dishes, they can wait 'til morning:-)
Seriously though, only by sharing the
camp duties can the "chores" be completed quickly, then we get to relax together and that's the way I like it to be.
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:39
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:39
Love your attitude Sandman. Carolyn
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:37
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:37
Hi Carolyn,
I do them, can't stand having dishes lying about, so I do them normally fairly soon after dinner is over that way they're done, put away and I can sit down to demolishing a bottle of red :)
Lyn
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:44
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:44
Hi Lyn,
Well I feel the same but have been told its my job to do them, being a bit of a feminist, I feel it should be a shared job then both can relax. Taking all things into consideration the MOTH here does a bit more than his share in the big picture but then he does enjoy the wood gathering, fire making, etc. lol. Its interesting to see the variety of answers.
Carolyn
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Follow Up By: Tripp'n Around - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:01
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:01
Hi
I'm with you Lynda. Like the Nike add..."Just Do It"
Over and done and then down to it.
To answer your question Carolyn, we both (or all when kids were with us) pitch/ed it with everything.
Many hands make light work.
Cya
Tripp'n
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Reply By: Nudenut - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:46
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:46
I do them.......
she only camps under the stars providing its more than two and less than five.....
But I do like the idea of leaving them til morning soaking...makes sense too me!
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:22
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:22
Not if you need them to eat off. LOL. Carolyn
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:52
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 07:52
Hi Carolyn,
A successful and happy marriage is a two way street and this applies to camping as
well.
All jobs are shared. Jude helps me with tyre repairs, mechanical stuff, vehicle recovery and I help with cooking, making beds or doing the dishes.
Stop at about 4pm, set up
camp, then have drinkies, then
cook tea and then wash dishes and afterwards put everything away. Sit around campfire till 7.30pm and fall into bed(more drinkies only disturbs your sleep later in the night lol). I tend to want to put things like kitchen stuff and foods away at night as dingoes, possums, foxes and other night creatures have raided our camps in the past and have caused bedlam! Its no sweat to get things out again in the morning.
We are a very
well oiled camping machine.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:52
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:52
"We are a very
well oiled camping machine"
Love it Willem. That's just gold.
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:32
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:32
Nothing like the words of wisdom from a
well seasoned camper Willem, lol. The last trip we were lax with putting the bread away, being in the wall to wall camping resort and we were awakened by the currawongs attacking the bread through the plastic. We were more careful in the bush. I always remember in USA being told if you hear noises in the night at the garbage cans keep away its probably the bears, lol. Carolyn
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:47
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:47
The
cook cooks ,the rest do the dishes ,last out of bed makes it, simple rules that work ,also only 1 firemaster per
camp [stops the kids all wanting to play with the fire].
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:35
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:35
oooooooh your a spoil sport, I love to re-arrange the fire, rofl. Carolyn
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:56
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:56
A simple answer to what seems to be a complicated question.. Leave your wife at
home, take some mates instead. Take a gluttonous amounts frozen pies and pizza'a and and a huge stockpile of beer. Warm pies and pizza's in
camp oven. Paper plates would be good but probably cutlery not necessary. Packaging and cardboard from pizza can be used in the fire and the cans squashed and placed in tough garbage bags and piled onto roofrack. Soo what seems to be the issue here. And best of all no etiquette needed. LOL
P.S. no need to take tent or sleeping bag, just a comfy chair, when had enough beer just sleep in chair around campfire. Michael
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 06:59
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 06:59
ROFL Michael, why even go just build a fire in the backyard.
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Reply By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 13:00
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 13:00
Depends on what was cooked and who cooked it.
If I
cook it's usually on the fire and very little us used. Maybe the hotplate/grill and a pot and kettle.
Only 2 plates and few cuttlery.
The fire is more challenging to
cook on so Heidi usually does the plates but I do the hotplate imediately when it's still hot. I find is easier.
If she cooks on the stove (2 burner) we try to
cook as a team if she needs help I'm there.
But she cleans up mostly.
If we are only going for a night or two. We bring the usually bring the last days dishes with us
home.
iMusty
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Reply By: Fusion - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 13:16
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 13:16
We recently bought an Adventure Camper, and in spending a couple of weeks camping found that we could leave all the evening dishes in the sink, and close up the kitchen (the entire kitchen is opened or closed by folding a large side panel into place and doing up 2 latches) takes about 10 seconds. All our food (non-refrigerated stuff) can also be left on the kitchen bench til morning. Then in the morning we have breakfast and do both lots of dishes. We hadn't thought about this usage before buying the unit, but it works
well.
My lovely wife washes and I wipe up and put away. She also cooks, while I do most of the
camp setup and driving. I think on balance she does more work, while camping, and vastly more work when at
home :(
Aaron.
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Follow Up By: motherhen - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 22:53
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 22:53
Sounds like us - and love your honesty. Gee that last paragraph could be my husband talking i.e. when on holidays and he returnes to the charming man he was before we were married.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 13:59
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 13:59
"the dishes and
clearing up need to be done!!!!!!! "
womans work
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 14:06
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 14:06
Yup if it's lunch or breaky we normally just give them a quick squirt with the water tap (pressured water is a great thing) and it cleans most bread crums etc off. When cooking dinner, the
camp oven comes off, the kettle goes on. By the time you've finished eating the kettle has boilded, mix it up with some water from the tap and do the dishes. Put on the drying rack and relax. Before bed or in the morning put the dry dishes away.
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Reply By: johnsy1 - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 17:18
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 17:18
The wife packs the clothes and gets the beers I do the rest with my 2 boys.Everyones happy.
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Reply By: Wombat - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 17:49
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 17:49
God made women's feet smaller than men's for only one reason - so they can stand closer to the sink. It's the same reason why women get married in white - so they match the other kitchen appliances.
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 17:54
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 17:54
what if the appliances are Stainless Steel?
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Follow Up By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:01
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:01
You beat me Lyn, but I'd rather beat Wombat!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: johnsy1 - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:02
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:02
Match the pieced face jewelery !
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:06
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:06
Wombie would probably like that Ruth...
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Follow Up By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:14
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:14
Lyn, pushed the button and realised Wombat probably would like that! LOL
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Reply By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:10
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 18:10
I am constantly amazed that people when
cooking meals don't put the billy or pot or kettle on stove straight away when finishing
cooking meal so (hot) water is available for coffe/tea/washing up - certainly for putting in bottom of burnt pots!! The stunned looks on campers faces when I kick them out of the laundry (basins are for clothes only - grungy burnt muck, and burnt bottoms of camp ovens, going down the pipes into the sewerage system - along with acres of sand from people attempting to wash their muddy sneakers!!!) - as we do not have a camp kitchen here and there is not hot water in the laundry. So I ask them - how did you
cook your meal? Just go back and put the billy on etc. etc. (yes, I know I'm horrid).
As for our camp - as my husband is usually not in a fit condition to wash up after dinner - we have minimal
cook pots (mostly steamed vegies in one pot) and he washes up next morning (things are put away from the visiting animals/ants) whilst waiting for the billy to boil to bring his darling wife her cup of tea (in china cup thank you) in her boudoir tent. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing nicer than a hot 'just right' cup of tea, first thing in the morning. (No, Willem, absolutely nothing).
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Follow Up By: banjobush - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 20:21
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 20:21
We have been
camping a few times with a couple of other familes and our rule is that we have a large bucket available where everyone washes up their own plates etc after meal. As for the
cooking utensils thats another story - throughout the day we usually play a few games either boules or cards, the loosers from whatever particular game get to wash up the
cooking utensils the winners get to be the drink getters for that evening and so it goes.
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Follow Up By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 23:04
Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 23:04
That's a good idea.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005 at 00:14
Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005 at 00:14
Were with you Ruth ( how are you anyway?) we share
cooking and camp setup, and usually tidy up but leave dishes till morning and do all at once with breakfast dishes to save water and heating energy.
A cuppa is always first even if not in bed haha!
If we are moving on, Glenda usually does them while I dismantle camp but its usually a 2 person holiday!!
Things go outa kilter when we take
young grandkids along lol.
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:05
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:05
I just couldnt relax if I left a mess at night. Funny I am the least fussy housewife in other respects. We take the minimum of equipment so we need the plates, knives, forks, frypan, saucepan etc clean to make brekkie. Now with the U-Beaut big billy I am training the MOTH to collect the water and put it on while we eat. Its hard to teach an old dog new tricks though!!! LOL.
Carolyn
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Follow Up By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:21
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:21
Hey Pesty and Carolyn - it is truly hard to teach old dogs new tricks, eh? One thing bothers me with campers I see - how many of them must end up with 'Delhi Belly' from unsafe hygenic practices. The Health Dept. stats in
Queensland are horrific (generally) and I don't think campers realise they must be extra vigilant about hand washing etc.!!
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Reply By: G.T. - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:31
Tuesday, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:31
Crank up the generator and put the dishes into the dishwasher. Money can be made if you do other peoples as well. lol Regards G.T.
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