The VIC/SA Border Track - Request for Info

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:02
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Thinking about doing all or part of the famous Border Track after our two weeks in the Flinders Ranges in September. I was wondering if anyone has done this trip has the relevant oziexplorer files - ie tracks and waypoints and would be happy to send them to me. In return I could offer other trip files eg parts of the Vic High Country, Cape York, Newnes and a few others. If you can help out my email is peteandlyn22 at bigpond dot com.
Thanks in advance
Pete
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:09

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:09
There was discussion on this at the "murray sunset gathering". LETS DO IT YEA YEA YEA WOO HOO etc... but then I was told, there were only 2 sand hills that were a "challenge".. we would have travelled hours for these 2 hills, then back.. and judging the roads around where we were, you could take a rolls royce lowered 4inches all round along it.

... lots of threads around saying its now a freeway, and from what I saw, it is.
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Follow Up By: Peter - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 19:02

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 19:02
Truckster, the Border Track changes dramatically south of Pinnaroo. You definately wouldn't get your lowered "ROLLS" thru that section of track.
Cheers Peter
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:13

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:13
Check with the Bordertown tourist information people beforehand as we were there Monday (Bordertown) and the track was advised as closed until sufficient rains. Not sure what that means, but I sure know what closed means.
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:14

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:14
goodday mate
ate this time i believe the southern section is closed was listening to a bloke on the hf last weekend haeding north on the track was telling someone then closed
steve
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Reply By: Casnat - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:27

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:27
took a run down the track on 2 April. Was certainly open. It is my 3rd time and was dissapointing. The biggest dunes now have detours around them.

Lots of scratches to the paintwork is about what it is now about.

Trevor
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 22:26

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 22:26
Sorry but that's rubbish Trevor. 4 of the biggest dunes are still there. 2 near Hensley Trig & the others south of Red Bluff. & as far as scratches in the paintwork are concerned the track has never been so clear following the bulldozing of extensive fire breaks.
Craig............
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Follow Up By: Casnat - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 22:44

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 22:44
Hi Crackles, don't know when you did the trip but as I said went down on 2nd April and compared to the previous 2 times I have done the run the big dunes are now detoured and it was not as challenging.

With regard to scratches, they were always something you lived with. They are no worse than previously but what I meant was that you still got the scratched without the big dunes.

Don't get me wrong, if you haven't done the track it is worth a visit but it is not what it used to be (comparing this time to 2 previous visits)

That said, I do dissagree with posts stating the border track is a freeway. Whilst it changes all the time, it still has it's challenges, and it is still fun. I imagine I will still take novices to 4wdriving there as a good introduction whilst it remains open.

Enjoy the outback,
Trevor
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:28

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:28
The treknote linked from the related site matches has the plot files, waypoints and digital maps all of which are shared in Plotswap. If you are prepared to upload some data (as you indicate) then you will obtain the credits required to download other data. See the map in the Border Track Treknote and click on get map. For a full list of on system plots and waypoint visit PlotSwap.

BTW: When you upload your plot file you can download the georeferenced map of your exact plot file.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:29

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:29
Bugger - I used Michelles profile again - it is really David and not Michelle.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 21:04

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 21:04
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 12:48

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 12:48
Thanks David (aka Michelle) I found your trek site after posting - nothing came up of a search of Border Track. I will spend some time over the weekend learning how to use the PlotSwap thingy.
Cheers
Pete
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Reply By: Russ - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 00:52

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 00:52
Pete,
Something not right with your email address posted here, contact me on rvburr@picknowl.com.au and will be able to help you.

RB
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Reply By: Redback - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:03

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:03
The Border is booorrring !!!!!! we did it when at the Murry sunset gathering.

Take your family car (holden falcon)

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul J (ACT) - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:45

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:45
Yeah too right, all that wasted energy getting out to lock my hubs for nothing..
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 22:39

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 22:39
Bet you $1000 Baz you wouldn't get a standard Commodore or Falcon down the Border track unassisted & I'll bet another hundred that Paul couldn't drive his Patrol on the left hand track up against the dog fence without his hubs in either. LOL
Craig.......
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul J (ACT) - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 08:34

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 08:34
Geez mate, up against the dog fence would severely scratch my paintwork, and do damage to the fence..
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Reply By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 12:52

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 12:52
Thanks for the replies everyone - I have a Holden Barina (2nd car so Mr Scrubby can't pick on me when I drive into town) ...... it seems from your responses that this might do the trick. Does anyone know of another route, other than the black top, that will get me back down to the Vic coast from Pinaroo?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:53

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:53
You wont get all the way down to the coast avoiding the blacktop. You could head along the road from Pinnaroo to Murrayville and take the Murrayville Track, there are 4x4 signs only but any vehicle can do it in the dry. Good camp along the track at Big Billy. Turn east onto Milmed Rock Track and across Wyperfeld park, good camps at Lake Albacutya...western beach or around Lake Hindmarsh. You could then do a bit more through Little Desert but after that you're on seal to the coast. Personally I'd head down the Border Track to Bordertown and then enter the western block of Little Desert, travel across to exit the eastern block and then scoot to wherever on the blacktop....Where exactly on the coast are you heading to?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:56

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:56
When I say any vehicle in the dry I was refering to the Murrayville track only...the moment you deviate onto any other track you need 4x4. Don't wont to put people crook
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Reply By: Russel & Mary - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 19:24

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 19:24
This appeared in our local paper April 21
Ngarkat Border Track Closure.
The popular Border Track,that traverses the eastern boundary of Ngarkat Conservation Park adjacent to Victoria's Big Desert Wilderness Park, has been temporarily closed..A lack of rain and substantial vehicle traffic over the summer months have created very poor track conditions, and increased damage to surrounding native vegetation........bla.......bla.....An assessment on whether the track can be re-openned will be made in early May, or immediately after rain falls in the park.
Signs have been erected at the entrances to the track, and notices will appear in the local media.

There you go. Rus.
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Reply By: mallee sundance - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 20:21

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 20:21
its true the border track is closed by the parks until rain falls I think its the south section or one way bit. the track was called a good lead up or practice run to a simpson crossing . but all the big dunes and mud ruts have been by passed but two on the southern end before red bluff. there are some good tracks on the vic side below Murrayville and along the fire break.
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Reply By: Patrolman Pat - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 12:00

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 12:00
As others have said the track is closed until after rains. i've just got off the phone to the rangers as I'm heading there for the Adelaide Cup long weekend. It won't reopen until after sufficient rain and there's non forecast for that area at the moment.

Latest info can be had on 85763690 NPWS Lameroo office.
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