reversing visibility

also note they listed 2 4wds and only 1 in each other catagory....

NA........ not biased.

By average they meant average height not income

Come on jeff, your starting to sound sarcastic.... thats my job...

Sorry Mate, I can feel old age and grumpiness catching up on me!! ;-)

http://www.nrma.com.au/pub/nrma/motor/car-research/reversing-visibility/4wd.shtml

Mitsubishi Pajero equal first...

As per the above post, only the model with a reversing camera. Standard Pajero only rates half a star.

Maybe it's when the roof is up. They tend to have really tiny see- through sections, or none at all in some cases.

Or simply the height of the boot of the vehicle - a relative in the US owns a Camry coupe convertable ("Solaris" or something), the back of it is the almost at the height of the drivers head when seated. Can't see bleep out the back even with the top down. I think the design is done with rollover survivability in mind, at the cost of rear visibility.

My work day commuter is a convertible and it is considerably worse than my 4WD with regard to rearward visibility due to the massive expanses of softop in the back corners. In fact, in the NRMA testing my convertible rated at zero stars whereas the dual cab got two stars. Geez I hope Mr Scrub-a-dub-dub doesn't cotton on to this, I'll feel like twice the pariah that I am now.

A trailer seems an obvious place to have a reversing camera . Hmm....

Like the camera idea but I'm overspent in preparation of immediate holiday plans. But have previously done some serious navel gazing on that one. A camera in the rear of the car (so backing up to the trailer, walls and other objects would involve less guess work) and a plug arrangement to plug in a second station (camera) on the trailer once connected.

Kind regards

Yes, you've certainly thought it through. I'd imagine that reversing would result in the most "crunshes" with 4wds and trailers, and was just thinking that a camera would possibly save a lot of hassle.
Cheers

Greetings
Go here Poron Australia reversing systems

Mine is being fitted tomorrow (Friday) The screens take 2 inputs and there is a kit for the trailer camera.

Regards

Paul

Paul what model did you fit? CM60 ?
Can I ask how much ?

John

CM60. I will know the cost tomorrow (its a once off price " mates rates" ). If you look on the poron site in accessories you can see the bits for the additional camera for the trailer.

Mine is just one camera fitted to the vehicle. I will do some pictures when installed.

Regards

Paul

Sounds like a comment a few of us have been saying since the rhetoric began. Why ban 4WD's? cars of any nature and children don't mix. Keep them separated.

Pictures Paul Pictures, We need some Pictures.

Also how much for the normal people not the mates rates you said you were getting?. LOL

G'day

Pictures sometime over the weekend if I can. Non mates rates supplied and installed $850.00.

My installer did a very nice job. My choice of camera location allows the rear windscreen wiper to clean the glass the camera looks through. You can see the glass heating strips.

The only issues I have are that the glue holding the screen mount stuck to a properly prepared windscreen glass but failed to stick to the screen bracket. I re glued it and all should be okay.

The camera turns on with the image reversed and I have to hit a button on the screen to re set the image correctly. This is just a config/wiring issue which should be fixed next week.

Regards

Paul

G'day Paul,

Nice Rig, I've got the 3L auto version. How is the rear view LCD (mirror replacement) in bright light, ie driving into the sun, or bright clouds behind it? You probably haven't had time to find out yet, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

I've got rear sensors in the bumper which work well, but my wife still managed to back our 3mth old Patrol into a car, she was coming out of a driveway too fast. I asked if the alarms went off on the sensors, she said yes, but she was going too fast to stop :( Anyway I'm thinking of putting the new ARB steel rear bar on, which I imagine can't take sensors, so was looking for another solution for rear views, and your setup might be it.

You mentioned being able to mount another camera to the back of the trailer. We tow an Adventure Camper trailer, so I'd be very interested in your setup for that too.

Looking forward to the pics and further experiences.

Thanks,

Aaron.

Aaron

I did not do my camper trailer. If you go to the poron nsite and look in the accessories area you can see the gear needed.

Regards

Paul