Toyota genuine parts suck.

Submitted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:26
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After breaking the speedo cable on my 80 series td cruiser, I called Toyota for a price on a new one........ $180 !!!!. I called a few wreckers and only one in Sydney had one for $55. I was lucky enough to get a NEW, non genuine cable off ebay for $31 plus $10 postage from WA. I am getting sick and tired of being ripped off by overpriced parts just because I own a 4WD.
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Reply By: Gryphon - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:40

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:40
Know the feeling. Biggest annoyance is how inconsistent their prices can be. On my Vienta for instance, I only paid $150+GST for a complete front bumper bar assembly from Toyota Spare Parts, yet was charged over $200 per side for a pair of driveshaft CV boots, which is just a couple of lumps of rubber. Only seem to be reasonable where the parts are Aussie made (ie. bumper).
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Follow Up By: dedalus - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 19:39

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 19:39
I had the same problem but I was not so "lucky" .... 1 speedo sensor ... $422.60 + $15 air freigh to Kangaroo Island !!!

Luca
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Reply By: bushy04 - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:44

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:44
Welcome to the parts game.
All the dealerships do that, the prices are nothing short of complete rip offs,
I worked in spare parts for several years and some prices are out of this world.
IE Toyota g/box bearings, exactly the same bearings from the same manafacture
without the toyota part numbers were about 50 to 80 percent cheaper.

see ya later Bushy04
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 20:03

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 20:03
I've heard this before. Also a tip, if you get a quote for a Toyo part, be sure that they arent quoting you for an assembly rather than a part. There's a lot of difference. Sometimes your old bits can fit into the new shell.
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Reply By: glenno(qld) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 14:12

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 14:12
On the other hand i bought a new non genuine door regulator(winder) from the wreckers and it was crap and only lasted 3 months.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 14:36

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 14:36
have had similar luck with clutchfan.
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 15:19

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 15:19
Stitch and others don't look at these things in isolation and by the way all manufacturers do the same thing re pricing otherrwise the price to buy the new vehicles would be much higher. Remember they have to keep parts available for some time and there is a lot of parts that they end up getting stuck with.

All I can say is on the face of it $180 is a bit steep but did you negotiate with the salesman. Most salesman I know would discount because they know they are a bit overpriced.

I gues yor car is 10 - 15 years old. How many genuine parts have you had to put on in that time? apart from servicing and accessories?? Probably less than $100 per year. That is chap motoring.

Now ask yourself honestly. If Toyota's were all made with the el cheapo $31 plus postage parts and I mean every part on the vehicle how much a year do you think you would have to spend to keep your rig on the road.

I dare say there would never be a good thing said about Toyota and none would get sold because of unreliability.

As I said don't look at things in isolation look at the big picture.
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Follow Up By: blackmax11 - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 17:06

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 17:06
David speaks some sense in this matter. Companies do need to support models with parts for a minimum of 7 years, most like Toyota do so for much longer, thankfully.
On the cost equation front it is common for manufacturers (Toyota) to add margins of around 300% to 400% on their cost of the price of a part then in the pricing build up to have a dealer selling margin of 80% to 100%. This allows the dealer to sell at trade discount and still keep a reasonable profit margin. The dealer and Toyota also have the added cost of stocking fast moving and slower selling parts, staff to work in the parts dept and all the other overhead cost associated with running a business.
All adds to the end user cost, what you and me pay.
Regards
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Follow Up By: Gryphon - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 17:14

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 17:14
You're right David, overall running costs associated with most Japanese vehicles are far lower than equivalent Euros or even Aussie made, due to the excellent engineering work that goes into them. And I must admit that Nissan and Toyota both have decent prices when it comes to consumables (mostly anyway). Just gives you the irrits when something you would not usually expect to have to replace/repair goes bung and you get slugged an exorbitant price. This is reflective of the low turnover of such parts though, as blackmax has mentioned.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 21:28

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 21:28
Depends on the parts. I think mainly the slow moving parts are expensive. I always go for genuine first, and if I don't like the price, I phone around aftermarket.

To give some other examples:

4 new genuine Prado shocks (Jap made Tokico) cost me $220 last year - cheapest aftermarket was well over double that.

Ryco oil filters and air filters usually cost about the same as Toyota after negotiating a discount. The Toyota air filters are washable.

Genuine wheel nuts and studs were about $4-5 each.

I use genuine Nissan oil filters on other vehicles we own because they are $8 each instead of over $10 for Ryco.

Buy a fan belt from Toyota and it will always fit perfectly; buy aftermarket and in my experience 50% have a problem with fit. Toyota belts and hoses are relatively cheap.

Toyota brand new long motors are about the same price as recond motors elsewhere.

Toyota Kimberley alloy wheels for Prados, and Royale wheels for 78/79/105 were selling for about $100 each a couple of years ago.

I have always found that the dealer's parts guys know their stuff. Maybe I've just been lucky.............

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: SmithyWA - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 22:02

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 22:02
Phil

Those Toyota Prado shockies for $220. Are you talking 4 x rear shocks or 2 x rear and 2 x front struts?

I always imagined the front struts would be very pricey. I'm thinking of ditching my KYB's and going back to the Toyota ones as the KYB's are very harsh.

Cheers

Mark
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Follow Up By: 80scruiser - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 22:21

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 22:21
Toyota shocks are very good quality.
The 220 bucks for 4 would be a trade price. Toyota have what they call "trade grade prices". In this case all shocks are 60 bucks ( from memory) + tax. I have had to change a prado set once in 264 000 km and this truck has been every where.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 23:07

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 23:07
Smithy,
Front stuts and rear shocks were the same price. The guy said at the time (12months ago) they were on special, but I think RRP price was less than $80 each. Aftermarket struts are always pricier than conventional shocks.

I liked the reliability of the Toyota shocks - lasted way longer than any aftermarket ones I've had in the past. My Prados did the worst tracks around - including the Madigan Line, and the Anne Beadell Hwy 3 times, and I never had a problem with shocks. But I did upgrade the springs.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Gryphon - Friday, May 27, 2005 at 12:12

Friday, May 27, 2005 at 12:12
Despite my objections to their pricing in some cases, have to agree that parts guys are ver knowledgable and honest - CMI Parts just off West Terrace in Adelaide have more than once referred me to aftermarket parts where appropriate, openly admitting when they are cheaper for comparable product.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 23:32

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 23:32
I saved abot 150 dollars getting a non genuine panel for my 75 well after the considerable reworking required to get a half decent fit that 150 dollars was looking like it would have been money well spent
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