Patrol ZD30 Went Bang Need Help

Submitted: Monday, May 30, 2005 at 22:51
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Hi all Just wondering if anyone who has had their 2000 build 3.0 TD engine replaced. Coming home the other day went down a gear big puff of smoke loss of power engine light came on and now the number 1 piston has a hole in it ..Patrol has 103,000 K's

I know this is not the first of its kind to happen but would very much like some info from people this has happend to , So i know what to do next ...I have read on other forums that people have had their engine replaced even patrols that have done 170,000 K's ...

Regards

Dave

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Reply By: mik*2 - Monday, May 30, 2005 at 23:31

Monday, May 30, 2005 at 23:31
no shortage on info about your problem on this site...do a search, you'll find out exactly what you need to do..

cheers
mike
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Reply By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:13

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:13
Might be worth looking at the Patrol Groups on Yahoo or popping over to the overlander forum and posting in Technical. John Rowlandson ' Roly ' has been down this path.

Overlander

Regards,
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:16

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:16
The link for overlander should be :

Overlander

Regards,
Mark
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Reply By: MrBitchi - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:17

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:17
Reminds me of a well known song by Queen....

"Another one bites the dust......" :-((

Bad luck mate, but Nissan SHOULD come to the party.
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 12:34

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 12:34
Dave drives warily down the track,
his revs kept way down low
Ain't no sound but the sound of his 'trol
His pistons ready to blow

Are you ready, hey, are you ready for this
Are you hangin' on the edge of your seat
Under the bonnet the pots go zip
To the sound of the beat - yeah

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust, eh
Hey, it could get you too
Another one bites the dust

How do you think your going to get along
With Nissan now it's gone
You'll fight tooth 'n' nail, with every thing that you've got
But they'll convince you you're on my own

Are you happy ? Are you satisfied ?
How long can you keep up the heat
Until out of the blue you blow your stack
Now you breakdown's complete!
Look out

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust, eh
Hey, it could get you too
Another one bites the dust

Hey
Oh take it
Bites the dust - bite the dust hey
Hey
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust, ow
Another one bites the dust, hey hey
Another one bites the dust, heeey
Ooh show down

There are many ways that you can hurt a Fourby
On all sorts of rough ground
You can beat them
You can cheat them
You can treat them bad even neglect to
let your tyres down, yeah
But with a high-tech three litre working real hard
Get ready to use your own feet
How often have we heard this kind of story
Repeating to the sound of the beat?
Oh yeah

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust, eh
Hey, it could get you too
Another one bites the dust
Shoot out
Hey, alright

R.I.P. Freddie
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 13:25

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 13:25
Priceless, bloody priceless..... :-))
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Reply By: fourstall2000 - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:57

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 08:57
A full report on my patrol engine failure is on the archives of this site,as are others.
My engine failed just as yours and was a second hand model out of warranty(118,00km).
Contact the customer affairs office at Nissan in Melbourne immediately(if possible speak to Val Davis she is the decision maker).
Follow up with a letter to her explaining the whole situation.
If your truck is not at a Nissan dealer now, take it to one,Nissan Aust would want a report from the dealer on the engine failure before making a decision.
Be patient but firm,make Nissan aware that you are informed that many motors in this model have failed, and that this type of failure is premature and unacceptable at the kilometres travelled.
You have an excellent chance of getting a new motor fitted,particulary if the vehicle has a service record (mine did not but was purchased from a Nissan dealer and only travelled 20,000 from second hand purchase)
Since the new Motor was fitted to my truck the Turbo failed and was also replaced by Nissan,fortunately they are standing by their product and I believe will support you on this occasion. Good luck.
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Reply By: Member - Kim T (VIC) - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 14:15

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 14:15
Dave,

Interesting about the early series 3.0lt. I had the last of the 2.8lt (build 01/00) and a wrecker friend showed me the problem facing your motor - the sump is too small! Seems they just dropped the new engine into the old chassis and reduced the oil pan to suit the engine mounts etc. The newer models have changed engine mount locations and a larger sump. To all early Series 3.0lt owners, I'd suggest making sure your oil level was always on the full mark, or better!
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 14:39

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 14:39
G'day,
I actually heard someone (who had a relly/acquaintance working at a Nissan delearship) report that the sump was not increased in size, rather the dipstick was changed in length. Shortened to result in more frequent topping up? I am sure someone more in the know can comment on that.
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 16:39

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 16:39
I have heard this too , but it may have been on this site so I don't know how much truth was in it LOL.

Dr Gregory's manual says I need 8.4 L of oil with a filter change , but I use every bit of 10 L.

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim T (VIC) - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 16:48

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 16:48
Glen D,

That's interesting because from memory, the 2.8lt took 5.5lt without and 6.5lt with, a new oil filter. Now if they used the same dip stick and sump on the first 3.0lt.......hmmmm.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross H (QLD) - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 19:25

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 19:25
Kim T
just a quick question as to when did nissan change the sumps ie: what year
thanks ross
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim T (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 14:44

Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 14:44
Hi Ross,

I don't know for sure that they did - but I was looking to put a Series 11 3.0lt in my 01/2000 2.8lt - that's when the wrecker told me about the mods to the sump and the engine mounts, and why it wouldn't fit. At a guess, when they went from the full red driver's side tail light, to the pseudo reversing light, is when it was done. Or about the time they incorporated a squab lift mechanism on those dreadful Series 1 seats!
Cheers, Kim
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 17:02

Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 17:02
Thanks Kim I might look into it a bit more.
regards ross
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Follow Up By: 80scruiser - Monday, Jun 20, 2005 at 20:28

Monday, Jun 20, 2005 at 20:28
Sorry its a bit late guys.
It is true. Nissan just changed the dipstick and tube to increase the sump. (straight from a Nissan Dealer Parts in Sydney) It is a good idea to have as much in it as possible. IMHO it has not rectified the engine failures in the early ones.
I think the change was around 10/00.
I had an engine failure on a customers which was an 8/00 I think, and the change was done to it in 10/00 but it still failed around the 115 000 k mark.
Late 01 is the latest engine failure and since engines have been replaced haven't had any further go. I think Nissan have got on top of it, lets hope, but time will tell.
However I still have a 10/00 one still going strong at 127 000 k. A couple of clutches but engine is fine, (touch wood).

Hope this helps.
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Reply By: MAVERICK(WA) - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 14:17

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 14:17
i don't which state you are in (most probably in a good personal state though...) but a call to mandurah nissan in wa should help. they replaced free of charge on behalf of nissan aust 3.0l + turbo and should have all the contacts. just be aware you will get it all done for no $ but it will take approx 2 mths. and insist on a new turbo as well. rgds
Slow down and relax......

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Reply By: thepilot - Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 22:14

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 22:14
To All

Thanks for all your comments not sure about " Wombat " LOL good for a laugh that helped at this time of need :-) spoke to Nissan today " Val Davis " thanks to fourstall2000 for passing on the name . Only time will tell now . Will let you all know of the outcome ...

PS: Just wondering if there is any copyright issues with that rendition of
" Another one bites the dust " well done Wombat ....

Dave
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 11:47

Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 11:47
Freddie, Brian, Roger and John said I could do it! Glad it made you smile. Did you know if you play the chorus backwards there is a hidden message - one which could be helpful to you if you need mellowing out after dealing with Nissan.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 16:51

Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005 at 16:51
Thats bad luck...
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