troopy tow ball weight
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
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I have a 96 HZJ75 diesel landcruiser troop carrier and intend to tow a 1800Kg caravan with tandem axles with a tow abll weight of 180 Kg. Can anyone please advise the suitablility of this setup in regard to towing capacity and legal max. tow ball weight ?
Reply By: OziExplorer - Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
180kg is major tow ball weight. You would have to contact the towbar manufacturer and Toyota.
The towbar may have a specification plate on it, but as you ask, it obviously does not. The majority of towbars are only rated at *max* 100kg's tow ball weight.
If you towbar does not have a manufacturers plate on it, you would be basically forced to buy a new one that is approved for that towball weight.
You will end up/need a weight distributing hitch. Not cheap! They would also be able to advise you about your vehicle.
www.haymanreese.com.au/
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Just looking on the Haymanreece website under index:
Safer Towing
Hayman Reese Weight Distributing Hitches are available in, 550 (250kg), 750 (340kg) and 1,000(455kg) capacity ball load weights.
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Follow Up By: Sang - Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Thank you for your prompt reply.
Isn't Max. tow ball weight specified by the motor vehicle manufacturer i.e. Toyota. No matter what what tow bar you put on, one is not to exceed the tow ball weight specified by the vehicle manufacturer.
Sang
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Sang, my new Mitsubishi came with a whole lot of paper work about tow ball weights and towing. The towbar is stamped with max towball weigth and design approval number.
What does your Toyota manual say?
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Reply By: mudgutz - Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
toyota to my knowledge have nothing in their manuals to state towball max weight , i have looked for this several times in prados and cruisers
manuals specifically in regard to this question......if it helps the 75 will tow 3500 kgs with trailer brakes you will need the right bar fitted for this
the stock towbar from toyota is good for 2000 kgs only and i have heard only 150kgs down weight thrown about but dont take this as gospel.
i have a 2000 kg bar for sale for a 75 if you need one, with a new square hitch, pin and ball...$150 email me if your interested
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Reply By: John Eggenhuizen - Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Hi Sang,
Any towbar maunfactured after 1992 must have a compliance plate. this will be situated somewhere on the bar and it will state the maximum towing capacity of the towbar and the maximum downward weight on the towball.
I think you will find that the towbar will be in the range of 2,500kgs for towing capacity and 250kgs ball weight.
When setting up your new van for towing, ideally you should have about 10% of the trailer weight over the towball. therefore if the van weighs 1600kgs fully laden then you should have around 160kgs over the ball.
Like all things, towbars and towballs are governed by Australian design rules. So
check out to see if you bar has a compliance plate, that will tell you the whole story.
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Follow Up By: Sang - Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:00
Hi
John and all others who reply to my original query.
Thank you all for your advice.
My troopy is ex-Telstra and came with a towbar stamped manufactured for Telstra by QTB (I think), rating is 2500 Kg. But no tow ball weight mentioned.
I rang NRMA to enquire about tow ball weight so I'll be good for insurance coverjust in case. Their technical department says for HJ70 (NOT 75) up to 96 lwb and troop is 120 Kg. For HJ78 manufactured between 96 (??) to now is 350 Kg.
I approach a Jayco Caravan dealer to enquire about buying a 21 feet van tare weight 1830 Kg with approx. ball weight 190 Kg. The sale person say I cannot tow this van because my max tow ball weight limit is 120 Kg. (no matter what tow bar I put on) probably quoting NRMA and I will have insurance problem.
Now I am all very confused as to what I can tow.
Further comment would be greatly appreciated
Sang
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002 at 01:00
Sang contact Haymanreese direct, not one of their *.* agents.
If anybody can give you the correct advice, Haymanreece will.
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