Qld Transport and tyre Guidelines

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 16:38
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Had an interesting coversation with Qld Transport Vehicle Modifications section today. This is what they have told me straight out of the Transport Operations section of the Qld Legislation.

Few interesting points.

1. ADR24 that was retired on the 1st of Jan covers tyre and rim selection. By retiring this ADR the states are now responsible for defining their own rules. In the case of Qld they have stuck with the specifications of no more than 15mm increase or 26mm decrease. HOWEVER! this only covers vehicles classed as NA NB and NC (qld transport classifications). These cover your typical sedans and 4wd Wagons. This does not cover light commercial's which includes Hilux's, Navara's etc. So the advice from Qld Transport is that as no modification from the vehicle manufacturers specification is specified by either commonwealth or state law it is not allowed.

2. There is no provision for an engineers certificate to cover tyre or rim modifications in Qld. Vehicle Engineers work under a "Code of Practice" which covers 13 topics such as engine swap, supercharge, extra axle etc. So when you transfer registration from interstate to Qld any modification plates you have for tyres will not be accepted.

So where does it leave us? No idea. There doesnt seem to be any logic as to why tyre and rim selection does not cover light commercials. Especially when Qld Transport publish a modifications guide for vehicles under 4.5 T Guideline, yet as it says on the front page of the document this is not legally binding, and its not until you dig into the law that you discover which vehicle classes under 4.5T are not covered.

So if any retired members with some time on their hands would like to canvas their local MP with a view to pushing to have light commercials included in the law, im sure there would be a few Qld ute drivers who would buy you a beer or six.

Cheers,

Glenno

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 17:50

Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 17:50
Oh!...Queensland

Perfect one day..................Not so flash the Next???

Nice place for a holiday but!
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Reply By: Toy_Hilux - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 18:12

Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 18:12
And they (the gov) try to pass off our beautiful state as:

Queensland - The Smart State (so the logo reads)

Don't think so!!!!!!
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Reply By: Swine Hunter - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2005 at 13:29

Wednesday, Jun 08, 2005 at 13:29
" So the advice from Qld Transport is that as no modification from the vehicle manufacturers specification is specified by either commonwealth or state law it is not allowed."

Interesting Glenno,
I am of the opinion that unless there is statute legislation within the QLD Consolidated acts or regs, that says, "in the event of there being no current ADR or state guideline in relation to a modification, it is deemed to be an illegal modification" that light commercials in this case would be legal if modified in this way.

Law works in the sense that you can do whatever you damn well like, unless there is law saying you can't, not the other way around. Simply, if there is no law to say you can't do something, How can you be deemed to have commited an offence if there is no law governing that act.

Typical Government dept and there "opinions"
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Follow Up By: Glenno - Thursday, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:21

Thursday, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:21
Interesting and valid argument. I assume though that cars need to pass some sort of certification before being allowed to be sold / registered. And therefore the car is certified to be used on the road in its original certifiable form. I would then expect that you would need a law permitting modifying the car from its certifiable configuration to another form - hence why some cars can go up to 15mm larger.

One suggestion ive had is to mark the larger tyres in my insurance policy however the insurance company said if Qld transport allow it then we will cover it.

So I think I need to put it in writing and await their official response.

Cheers,

Glenno.
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