4.5L 100 Series pricing

Submitted: Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:26
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hey all,

i was planning to buy a 2004/05 V8 GXL LC100, around the $50k mark on my car allowance for work. however my boss indicated to me that he's ready to upgrade his LC this year and i could look at buying his old one if i wanted.

he's got a 2001/02 (not 100% sure what year) GXL LC100 4.5 petrol. got the alloys, that stupid bullbar that looks like a nudgebar with outriggers, roof racks, etc. been really well looked after & fully serviced every 10,000kms (directors car). exterior is immaculate, interiour is really good, apart from worn leather on steering wheel.

done 165,000 kms, but going strong and always looked after.

any ideas on what it'd be worth? supposedly i'd be getting it for the depreciated tax value (since that's all the company can sell it for) which should be around the $20,000 mark, give or take a few grand. just want to get an idea on typical values for like cars. thanks.
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Reply By: tessa_51 - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:29

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:29
have a look at
www.redbook.com.au
when the site opens make sure you go to the right hand side for private users.

Tessa
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:37

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:37
i looked at redbook, but let's be honest - those values mean squat for 4wds, esp with gear fitted and conditions, etc.

that's why i'm asking here - to get values that reflect reality.
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Reply By: RAGS AND DAGS - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:29

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:29
It is worth around 30-35k.
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Reply By: vitara - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:11

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:11
Hi NathanK just rang a mate of mine who is a wholesaler, he reckons 20k is ok Between 17/20 k no more A lot of klms for its age but sounds like in good nick. He said that you have to remember when you go to sell it if you intend to travel and do big klms when you go to trade it in you will be in the same vote. He said go for it.Good reliable 4wd bit thirsty but a good motor. Hope that's of some help to you. But as the other people have said check out redbook.com.au also carsales.com.au carpoint.com.au remember these arn't always true I don't think anyway but will give you a rough guide. Take care Vitara
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Follow Up By: flappa - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:23

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:23
You are kidding aren't you ?

No wonder Car sales men are the scum of the earth . . .

17k for a 01 or 02 100 Series Cruiser ???

Why ? so HE can flog it off for $30k . . .

Redbook says

Trade in price guide* $30,400 - $34,400
National average price - private sale* $33,700 - $38,700

Thats about what they are selling for on Carpoint.

160K on a 4.5 Petrol . . . just wearing in. It will go 400 , 500k before it even needs to be considered.
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:30

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:30
EXACTLY!

carsales are selling 2000-2002 4.5L GXL's with around the 150-175kms for between $30 to $35,000.

i was thinking of picking it up for around $20,000, keep it for a year or so and then sell it for a bit of a profit perhaps.
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Follow Up By: RAGS AND DAGS - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:33

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:33
Nathan that figure is BS.

Your wholesaler mate is dreaming.

A rav 4 same age is worth that wholesale.

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Follow Up By: RAGS AND DAGS - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:34

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:34
edit.

vitaras mate is dreaming.
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:37

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:37
hehe, figured you meant that!
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Follow Up By: vitara - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:40

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:40
I agree with you about being scum of the earth thats why I dont buy from caryards. I know the motor will do a sh@t load more than what is already on it It's just higher than what they say is average for a vehicle of that year that's all I was meaning. They still sell 80 series for that price. Sorry didn't read your question properly in regards to selling it in 12 months time, he was thinking your going to do another 150.000klms or more in the same period of time meaning it will have over 300,000klms if you go to sell which might make it harder for you to sell. Take Care Vitara
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Follow Up By: RAGS AND DAGS - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 07:53

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 07:53
I disagree about the scumof the earth comment and i am not a car salesman. My brother sells second hand 4wd's etc and he tells me the guys who are scumm are the wholesalers , not the salesman. IN his yard he has to sell the vehicle for $3,000 more than it was bought for before the gets into the 10% commission part of his pay .
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Follow Up By: vitara - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:59

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:59
Sorry to ruffle your feathers rags and dags, but I used to sell brand new toyota's for 4 years well known dealership in blacktown sydney, new cars no probs if they have a warranty problem they go across to service to get fixed you can't help that if there new you are not to know, BUT when they asked me to start to sell second hand cars to the public no thankyou. You have some poor bloke come in off the street with his arse hanging out his shorts 3 kids and a wife in tow, and they want you to sell him somthing that you know is a bucket of sh@t that is worse than they are trading in thats where I draw the line, hence thats why I no longer sell cars full stop out of the trade all together.Not saying your brother is like that although they have cleaned up there act alot from previous years (the whole motor trade) and there is a lot more woman selling cars now. I dont know how some of them sleep at night .Sorry if I offended you about you brother maybe he is one of the decent blokes around but there is not many of them.Take Care Vitara
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Reply By: NathanK - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:36

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:36
i can imagine a caryard/wholesaler giving $20k for a trade-in or a wholesale price, but definitely not private sale price. they are still selling for easily over $30k.

plus 160kms is not high for it's age. looking at 30-40kms per year, average for a director/managers car.

he lives almost an hour from the office, so most of his kms are highway cruising with some light off-road work and city work during the week.

i'm fairly convinced i'm gonna get a great buy if i can get it for the $20k mark.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:41

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:41
If you can get it for $20 odd then I think its an exceptional deal.

Sure , they are thirsty (I have a 4.5 Patrol) , but , for that $10k or so saving . . . thats a LOT of fuel.

You could drive it for a couple of years and STILL make a profit.
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:56

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:56
Sorry :) forgot to mention that it'll be my work vehicle - i'm a project manager so no tools in the car, however they give me a fuel card and pay my fuel including private usage!

they pay my fuel and insurance, plus pick it up for $20k...... i think i'm on a good thing here!!
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Reply By: pmacks - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 15:59

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 15:59
Now i think you are just bragging !!!

enjoy your new toyota / nearly new
pmacks
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 18:18

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 18:18
Gday
4wd values are like shares in that demand dictates values...there are many petrol 80's out there for 12-15k these days...why do u think the 100 is worth another 15 ontop of an 80??? They are a superceded model now, with v8 the only petrol option....and why would you pay 30-36 for a superceded 6 when a used v8 isnt that much more???
I reckon 25 is a good price, check out the trading post and see what people are offering, also, www.ebay.com.au are selling 100's online...that way you can watch it and see what it goes for...
As far as the red book goes, 160000kms deems a car as in bad condition.....even though its just ran in.....the red book doesnt diffeentiate between Hyundai (hadit at 160) and cruiser (hadit at 500k)
Andrew
ps back to supply and demand...how does a 1996 80 series t/d sound for 37k?????
If you cant get one, and you want one, then you pay the price.....id pay the extra for a t/d 100 or 79 troupy.
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 18:40

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 18:40
The other thng to say is there is a glut of 4.5's on the market at the moment.....i cant see it getting any better with fuel bout to hit $1.30 in Sydney.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 19:35

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 19:35
I woulda thought that when Toyota dropped the 4.5 for the V8 and dropped the price of the V8 by about 20k, the 4.5's would have plummetted in price. Just my opinion....
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 19:44

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 19:44
Yep, Toyota did some revision with the 100 series series 2. they made the lexus the flagship, a sahara affordable, and the new v8 was 60k
There is a 4.5 on ebay at the moment for 25...looks ok, no bids.
Andrew
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Reply By: muzzgit (WA) - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:00

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:00
Even if you pay more than 25k for it, if you don't pay for the fuel then youv'e just hit on a bargain.

I'm jelous.
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Reply By: NathanK - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 14:39

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 14:39
perth seems to be a bit different.

it's a late 2000 model, just checked - so only averaging 30k a year.

over here, 2004/05 V8 secondhand are going for $45-50k for the cheapest! most are still in the $48-52k mark. there are a lot of 2000-2002 4.5 with 150k average going for the 30-40k mark.

on pretty much all car & bike values perth are slightly higher than eastern states. my mate is a buyer for a toyota yard here in perth (he's on holidays, thus the reason i didn't get a value out of him) and he said on average perth toyota 4wd prices are 3-5k more than eastern states for the same vehicle.

supply and demand - lots more 2nd hand cars for sale over east than here in perth means lower prices.
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