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Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 12:42
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Hi All Mate has just bought a 1993 landrover disco 3.9 V8 (big mistake) evey one to their own I suppose. Seems to be running warmer than it should be one white mark below the red zone. Is this the normal running temp for these things or does it seem to be to hot. Just bought it on the weekend and no has no warranty.Has done 107.000klms on the clock. Any advice would be appreciated where to start if you think this is above normal operating temp. Thankyou Regards Vitara/Steve M
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Reply By: RAGS AND DAGS - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:05

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:05
Put it straight in the Trading Post while the roadworthy is still valid .
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Follow Up By: vitara - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:25

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:25
Hi there Rags and Dags, my opinion exactly, we had other friends who bought one of these things brand new and she reckons it was the biggest fuel guzzling bucket of sh@t she ever bought nothing but probs especially electrical and got peanuts for it when they sold it. I have no idea what made him do it none of us new about it he wanted to surprise us next time we went 4wding, would have been better keeping his old rodeo. Anyway wouldn't like to pi@s him off by saying anything. I'll at least keep my mouth shut till he has major trouble, his wife will think we are all jealous if we say somthing she's a bit like that. Especially when I drive an old 89 d/cab hilux. Anyway have a good day . Take Care Vitara
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 14:40

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 14:40
Must be a full moon - the jap loonies are out today

The temp needle should sit midway on the guage - all day no matter what the temperature is - if it is getting up towards the red there is a problem - but it shouldn't be there with the Ks the car has on it.

Gazz
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Reply By: Member - Landie - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:14

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:14
I used to fly planes in another life and a mechanic once told me - if it is in the green (or white) it is operating normally, only worry if if goes into the red.

Not sure about discos though..................
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Reply By: Redback - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:14

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:14
What would you do if it were your car ? as far as i know overheating is pretty much the same in all cars so one notch from the red is not normal, look for a leak or check the thermostat, flush it, reverse as well, could be a blocked radiator, head gasket or as simple as the wrong cap or a incorrect temp gauge.

or go here Landy forum

Baz.
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Follow Up By: vitara - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:42

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:42
Hi there Redback. yeah I did suggest to him to try the thermostat fisrt and go from there. Radiator looks fairly new and the coolant and overflow bottle seem to be very clean but then again it did come from a dealer. Thanks for the landy forum will give it a search Thanks Vitara
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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 15:13

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 15:13
Vitara,
Common fault unfortunately with these is overheating, best to get it fixed asap. Mine ran a bit over centre so I fitted a larger radiator in the end, could be any one of the faults mentioned. If it overheats / runs warm I would say that the person who had it before you could well of had the problem, fitted a radiator that didn't fix it got scared and sold it. Check the thermostat, make sure all the water pipe connections are clean and not corroded internally, mine where and this did improve circulation. get the coolest thermostat you can, 70 degrees I think is the coolest i could find. I also use a Royal Purple product called Purple Ice, this breaks down the surface tension in the water giving better heat transfer between the water and aluminium.
Despite other comments I have great fun in my Rangie, it's an 86 and I didn't pay an awful lot for it, yes it likes fuel and it hates water, and it on occasion leaks a bit of oil. Electrical problems come as part of the package. I like the ride and off road performance, these are a bit of an anasthetic for the other issues.
Hope this helps, my opinions and experiences as usual.
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Follow Up By: vitara - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 15:32

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 15:32
Hi there Martyn, thanks for that much appreciated, I think you might be right in regards to the radiator because it does look fairly new maybe the original owner as you said had the problem and sold it for that reason. Its in very good condition have had a good look at it today don't think it's ever been off road no under body scratches or scrapes but it has leaked a bit of oil today seems to be coming from above where the oil filter is located but will try and solve the heating problem first. First thing this afternoon will be the thermostat. He only drives about 10 klm to work and it heats up to the last white line but he said he took it for a run up the coast on the weekend and said it ran at that spot all day even going up some of the hills so I dont think it's anything major. Any way take care Vitara Thankyou
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:27

Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:27
Quote: ...... "I also use a Royal Purple product called Purple Ice"

I am very interested in wether this product makes any difference. If it does, where do you buy it?
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 20:29

Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 20:29
Shaker,
Unfortunately my opinion is a biased opinion seeing I'm the WA distributor for Royal Purple automotive products. I do use the products and they do work. If you want to purchase anything send me a message and I'll contact you, I don't think it's right to advertise on this site seing I don't subscribe as yet. My post will more than likely get deleted, maybe.
The Purple Ice made around on average ten degrees difference to my Rangie, smaller difference to the GU. All the oils made a difference especially to the Rangie 5 speed, also took some of the notchyness out of the GU box.
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Reply By: Blackie - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 17:21

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 17:21
Range Rovers often have a similiar problem. However the guage is often the problem rather than the radiator. How do you find out? I guess you find a mechanic you trust and get him to check the sensor rather than whip out the radiator etc.
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 17:47

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 17:47
You say from a dealer yet NO warranty ? what state and what price ?/ dealers in Qld by law must give a minimum 1000k /1mth unless specificly stated otherwise as in an auction or wholesale .
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 19:30

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 19:30
I think its a Federal no a state one. I can't believe there is a state where a dealer can sell you a lemon and have no comeback, like with a private sale.
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Follow Up By: vitara - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 08:34

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 08:34
Hi there Alloy c/t, where in NSW. In NSW they dont have to give warranty on a used car if it has done 160.000klms or is more than ten years old. Commercial vehicles dont even have to give you a warranty on second hand vehicles unless it is still covered under new car warranty. Sucks eh, but thats the risk people take. Some dealers have there own warranty but generally not worth the paper it is written on. You would be better to buy private and save a few $$$$$ and then still have the difference to spend on any problems you may come accross. I think all dealers should give some form of warranty. The only thing they have to give you here is a pink slip to say that it is road worthy. Virtually a major mechanical fault for you to have any come back.As far as price he's saying that he did a straight swap with his 1998 VT commodore which wasn't a bad car had a 123.000klms on the clock probably worth about 10k.Sold his rodeo about 4 months ago silly bastar@ Take Care Vitara/Steve M
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Reply By: Exploder - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:55

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:55
Pull the radiator out and take it to a radiator shop and get them to do a high pressure flush or rod the cor out, then replace the thermostat, replace top and bottom hoses check the fan and water pump. Then refit radiator and new hoses+ new Thermostat put in a quality coolant mixed with Demineralized water and you should be good to go.

Also if you want fit a radiator filter to the top hose and this will catch any rubbish floating around the system.

If you cover all the bases at once then you will not get any surprises latter on.

All this will not cost much.
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Reply By: See You - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:08

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:08
They also have leaking gaskets everywhere. The company calls this rust protection. These are the things that define Land Rovers. It puts them ahead of the competition. Just get used to it.

See You NT
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Follow Up By: Redback - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:41

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:41
Let me guess....mmmmm.... ya don't own or have ever owned a Land Rover.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: See You - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 14:57

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 14:57
I have operated 7 Land Rovers in my business in the last 20 years. I only got them because I didn't have enough cash flow to buy Toyotas or anything better at the time. Now that I have a whole lot more revenue going through the business I have upgraded to 78 series Troopys, utes, 2x100 series, and more recently a Hummer. These vehicles support the various 8-45 tonners that I run up here.

I would NEVER EVER go back to British vehicles especially Land Rovers. They are the worst vehicles to run and maintain in our harsh land. In the business world I would go broke trying to maintain them in the field. Most of my smaller vehicles do around 500,000 each in 3 years running staff and supplies to remote locations. I write them of to $0 in that time and replace them. I was only getting about 1/2 the milage out of Britains Best before requiring major repairs. I will never go back there again. They are simply not built for Australias Outback. I would not consider one to own again let alone take on a trip towing a caravan or boat. Just inferior products.

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Reply By: Disco200Tdi - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:51

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:51
I would start by replacing the temperature sender and thermostat.

If that gives you no joy, remove the radiator and clean. Make sure you also clean the air con condenser as mud gets trapped between it and the rad.
On reinstallation make sure all the air is bled out of the cooling system.

Cheers

John D
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Reply By: joc45 - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:31

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:31
Hi Vitara
I'll stay away from the Landrover debate :-)
If my high school physics is correct, increasing the percentage of ethylene glycol in the system will not only raise the boiling point of the coolant, but will increase the specific heat of the coolant, allowing a larger quantity of heat to be transferred for a given temp increase.
good luck
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Follow Up By: vitara - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 12:58

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 12:58
Hi joc45, I was wondering about the coolant as I checked the over flow as these have a sealed radiator system and found the glycol to be very viscous which makes me wonder whether the system is filled with straight coolant and not mixed with water. I have heard that having too much coolant can have the reverse effect and actually make the vehicle run hotter, don't know how true this is ??? Regards Vitara/ Member Steve M
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 19:30

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 19:30
'fraid I can't answer that.
I use Nulon Long Life concentrated coolant which I reduce to 33%. It comes as 100% glycol (with inhibitor), and that doesn't look too viscous in its native form, tho I admit it is slightly more viscous that straight water.
Boiling point (unpressurised) for 33% is quoted as 127deg, and for 50% as 132deg.
Gerry
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:38

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:38
I'd replace everything around the coolant..
body
chassis
engine
running gear etc..
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Follow Up By: vitara - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:53

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:53
I like your type of thinking Truckster, That's made me have a good laugh Thankyou but I still wont say anything to him.His wife is one of those people that think you are jeolous if I say anything against it as it has all the bells and whistles and I'm in an 89 sr5 hilux d/cab. Ah Well not to worry I will have the last laugh when we go through the deep water in the old 2.8 diesel while his coughs and farts, if it gets him that far. Take Care Vitara/Member Steve M
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:49

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:49
and it will buddy...a Disco will eat a Hilux off-road...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 16:02

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 16:02
Define offroad...

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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 16:14

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 16:14
a Disco would eat a diesel Hilux in any off-road situation - dirt road, beach or firetrail. More articulation and power. I'm not saying the Hilux isn't more reliable; I'm just saying that not particularly pleasant to drive and not as capable off-road as their ground clearance would suggest - gutless on sand and scrabbling around on firetrails... kidney-belt material everywhere without a load on back...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 16:56

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 16:56
"... a Disco would eat a diesel Hilux in any off-road situation - dirt road, beach or firetrail. "

What a load of utter crap. *ANY OFFROAD SITUATION* LMAO!

Boy you have been brainwashed by advertising....
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 17:07

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 17:07
ah Truckie...let's stick to the facts shall we - I have driven both off road - can you say the same? If you've ever seen a 2.8l Hilux beat a Disco over the same terrain, I would put it down to driver error in the Disco or modifications to the Hilux. There is simply no comparison - Disco's walk up firetrails and are comforable/handle well on corrugated dirt. Hilux's buck and slide around on firetrails and are positively painful on rough dirt without a load out back. And don't try to tell me the Hilux diesel is a firebreather on sand... I'm confused Truckie, Discos have pretty much the same underpinning as Rangie's which are widely regarded to be just as capable as coil-sprung cruisers and patrols. As for the new Disco, well it even hoses those two...
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Follow Up By: FeralDisco - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 19:01

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 19:01
truckster - you amuse me... I'd love to hear your scientific explanation of how a vehicle with live axles front and rear (with no swaybars on S1 Discos) and long-travel coils, mated to a TD or V8 motor, can be defeated off road by a gutless 2.8D Hilux with excessively firm rear springs and IFS...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 23:05

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 23:05
>>> Disco's walk up firetrails
So do Rodeo utes with alloy trays, like the one I had.. that went anywhere, and lots more than firetrails. Dude in Sydney Nissan club took his out Menai, it was 2wd with the normal back, not the alloy one.. Also Commodores can walk firetrails... So do masses of 2wds.. So do Lada Nivas. and so do Roadbikes.

>> Hilux's buck and slide around on firetrails and are positively painful on rough dirt without a load out back
I would put it down to driver error in the Lux. Same for anything, drive to the conditions.

I think your fire trails must be A grade tracks or similar.. Most fire trails are smooth dirt roads, not a challange for a Rolls Royce.

You now start mentioning comfort etc.. Thats got 0 to do with offroad ability. You could sit on milkcrates and still have a very competant offroader.
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Follow Up By: vitara - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:17

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:17
Hi There Feral Disco, I never said anything about there off road ability I was talking about realiability, off road they are great my mate has one and has it on lpg with a 3 inch lift with 35 tyres on it great for 4wd and yes the 2.8 are a dog as I have said in previous forums, and also my'n is solid front end not irs and also have a 167 litre water tank on board on the back which stops it jumping around,as far as being a dog free way driving yes runs out of puff at about 125klm but it will sit on 100klm all day When it comes to 4wd in low range my'n will walk up just about anything also has a 3 inch lift. Yes it might be a bit slow but while my mate in his dico has stopped to dry out the dizzy and plugs I have made up the time difference. We try not to go any higher than the bull bar so the disco stays dry.And mine will use 9/10 litres per 100 klms my mate uses about 20 so we carry the jerry cans for him.Also my'n has been around oz twice fully loaded. I will be buying the 3 litre turbo hilux next but not for a couple of years yet as it is still running like a dream Regards Vitara
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:42

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:42
point taken vitara...although not really fair to compare water crossing reliability of a petrol vs a diesel...the owners of the petrol clearly need to understand how to prep a vehicle to cross deep water safely in a petrol. A TD Disco with snorkel will obviously traverse deep water as easily as a diesel Hilux...and usually get better fuel economy - probably the most economic large 4WD and hold the Simpson economy record as such.

As for Truckie, well you just have no credibility dude. You can't even stay on-topic. I wasn't talking about a Rodeo ute (although Disco will eat that too) which has more supple suspension than a Hilux. And no, A 2WD will not do the sort of firetrails I am talking about in the Brindabella Ranges. I'm afraid you're not the font of all knowledge that you think you are - you are the first person I've ever come across to suggest that a Rangie/Disco is somehow an inferior off-road vehicle in capability terms. Seems that all these 4WD comp people running Rangies (same set-up as Discos underneath) know less than you - which I'm sure you'll agree with in your typically arrogant manner...
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Follow Up By: vitara - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:49

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:49
Rectify meant to say IFS not IRS. Also if I new how to set a web page I would put my video clips on it. We always video our weekends away or our big camping trips so we can look back on our holidays and things and is also handy incase of any accidents for insurance purposes.And I'd also be able to show you the video clip of me YES me in my 2.8 lux pulling the disco out the water we went through which was up to just under my front guards as it sh@t its self half way accross and had to be snatched out shame you can't ask his wife who was pis@ed off as she left her $700.00 digi camera on the floor and filled it up with water. Don't try and tell me that a landi/rangi can go all the same places especially when water is involved. You've ruffled my feathers on this one. Take Care Vitara PS maybe I will pass you in a creek bed some where
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:43

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:43
poor pathy..
1) point out where I give a shi+ about what you think of me - or anyone for that matter!

2) I used the rodeo as an Example you twonk. ive been further than *GASP* your Rangies, out round Kurnells sandhills, and *GASP* numerous firetrails round the blue mountains and the shire.. wheres the challenge in firetrails?

... and BIGGER GASP, a 2wd rodeo went round Menai, down to the beach from the Rock, and out the other side out along between the reactor and the firestations. He went everywhere your mighty Rangie (same running gear as Disco - you seem to keep mentioning it, so I'll do it too, may help you understand)...

3) I cant keep on topic? Whats a full comp spec Rangie got to do with a disco or a road going rangie?? I think you better go see how many of these "COMP" people are running stock rangies, or even how many are running rangie running gear! I think you will cry.

Your the first person Ive heard that thinks they are bulletproof..

Im sure you will say something stupid in reply in your usual manner.
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:53

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:53
poor truckie - clearly wouldn't make a scientist as can't seem to grasp simple logic, so resorts to the 'lowest common denominator' approach with intelligent insults such as 'twonk' - focus on the ball, not the player dude...

So...to focus on the ball, it's pretty easy to refute your feedback:

1) I don't care about your opinion of my opinion about you...I'm here for the facts.

2) you are comparing apples to oranges - have you driven both vehicles back to back over same terrain? You are not accounting for differences in driver ability.

3) my point is, why would comp people bother starting with a rangie as the basis for an off-road weapon if it was inherently incapable. And don't say it is about price...they often spend $50K on these machines, so could afford to start with a rodeo as a base vehicle...funnily enough they don't ;) They regularly start with rangies and GQs as a base...

4) I don't recall saying anywhere that they are "bulletproof"; simply that they are capable.

Stick to the facts Truckie...and try not to get so personal with people...we're all supposed to be on the same team here...

Have a nice day...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:05

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:05
1) Would you like a tissue? Your the one that seems to be upset. Im just playin you now.

2) Yes - apples and oranges.. One is a 4wd .. One is a 2wd. The 2wd went further. You missing something here? Let me explain it so even you can understand it.
One is designed to drive on the road and carry loads.
the other is a box that pretends to be an offroader.
Got the picture? Probably not, but DILLIGAF

3) Im sure you said " Seems that all these 4WD comp people running Rangies (same set-up as Discos underneath) know less than you ",.. so that would mean they are driving according to you, Rangies.
Hint #1.. they arent. The body and some of the chassis maybe, but most of the rest isnt. Engines, diffs, apart from the usual stuff arent. You should also see how many people REALLY ARE out there competing in Rangies.. as a %age probably ~10%? Then again - define competing. What sort of competition? Tuff truck OBC We Rock, Winch Challenge...

4) Rocksta's and Ladas are capable too.
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:13

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:13
I'll take 10% - still more than those using rodeos in comps. And yes, a well-driven 2WD probably can get further than a poorly driven 4WD in some situations. My 2WD HQ ute with lift kit got me most places.

Take care and smile Truckie - live must be difficult for an angry, self-deluding know-it-all...oh and if you're ever up this way, would be happy to give you a lesson in firetrail driving that discos are apparently so poor at...
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Follow Up By: Cannon - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 13:37

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 13:37
Hi Pathy
Unfortunately there is no point in arguing with Truckster. He seems to have a little band of followers on this forum, who will no doubt back him up on everything.
Its sad when he seems to have to bag other 4wders for his own pleasure, whether he is bagging 3 litre Patrol owners, Land Rover owners or otherwise.
A very high percentage of his replies are negative, which is really helpful on a technical forum .. not. He has an unusual vocabulary, an example you have seen above.
Then there was the time a few years back, he was having a similiar disagreement with a member here. Then he got personal, and started bagging the guys wife! Ah yes, Truckster, a real character and a heck of a nice bloke.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:06

Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:06
You were Right DaveEO..

Musty AND Ozi are back ..

shame they dont have the balls to use their real nicks. Oh thats right, both are banned.
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:15

Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:15
I don't even know who those people are - just accept that there might be more than one person who disagrees with you...and having used EO pretty much since its inception, I can vouch that there are plenty of people who take issues with your 'opinions' (rarely do you provide hard evidence) and 'attititude'... and you may be the one who is soon banned if you don't stop flaming people...
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:11

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:11
Truckman,
Having fun again I see, I think it best I don't enter into this one. I accept my vehicles for what they are and I had more that my 5 grands worth of fun outta my Rangie.
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Reply By: pathfinder - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:59

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:59
let's introduce a bit of science into the debate vitara - a radical concept on this site I know. You are talking about petrol versus diesel, modified Hilux vs unmodified Disco, and different drivers. Of course a good driver will go further than a bad driver - even if the latter has a more capable vehicle. Come to the Brindies some time, and if your Hilux can go further than my S1 Disco with no swaybars, 2-inch lift and MTRs, then I'll buy you a carton of Coopers...no other Hilux has been able to...

Not looking to ruffle feathers...just want to stick to facts...too many people come on this forum and use one example to demonstrate what they suggest is a universal undisputed fact - your mate's vehicle is probably poorly maintained/prepped and he's probably not the most experienced off-roader - not a fair comparison. I've taken a V8 rangie through deep water many times without drama - it's all about using a blind, possibly loosening fan belt and correct gear selection and a steady pace to maintain bow wave... if your mate did all these things and the Disco still let him down, then I would take your point - but I would hazard a guess that he didn't...
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Follow Up By: vitara - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 10:47

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 10:47
Point taken pathfinder, but my mate's rangie is well looked after and he is very confident with 4wding. He has been doing it longer than me. Agree with you in regards to the td5 would be the same when water is involved. No he doesn't use a blind but he has put a manual switch so he can turn off his electric fans as he has taken the belt driven fan off and put twin thermo's on instead. Maybe they are more capable than the lux but the with all the 4wding I have done with my mate Neither has been a dissapointment with either vehicle as we have both got to the places we need to go.As mentioned water seems to be his down fall but as said you can't compare diesel to petrol when water is involved.Yes his disco is modified eg lift kit muddies etc but then so is mine, rear limo front diff lock etc Disco also has diff lock. Any way I'm still happy with mine gets me where I want and need to go even if it is a slug box. Anyway take care Pathfinder am leaving work now have a good weekend..Take Care Vitara Ps Where is the Brindies havn't heard of that place before ???
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:02

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:02
'Brindies' is Brindabella Ranges near Canberra. Some nice mountain/creek country but not so nice after the fires...
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Reply By: vitara - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:57

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:57
Thanks for that will give it a look up on the map.Have a good one Take Care Vitara
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