Camper trailers on the Border Track
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:19
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Patrol22 (Queanbeyan
Hi Everyone - I've heard that the sand hills on the
Border Track have been tamed down a bit over the past couple of years. What are my chances of getting a Kanga Camper through there without striking too much trouble. Will have another vehicle in company and be carrying a tirfor.
Cheers
Pete
Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:22
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:22
I got my Ultimate over all the dunes without any dramas about 2 years ago (November 2003) and the dunes were very dry. Tyre pressures are critical......we saw a Disco with no trailer having all sorts of problems cos he wouldn't take advice and lower his pressures.....did untold damage to the dunes (and then blokes like me get a rocket for taking a trailer!!!!! Go figure!!!!).
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:35
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:35
I'll be taking the car along there when eric finds me one
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:45
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:45
Still a good out of the way trip. No need to spend $45678546789564745686756 on fuel fuel to get a feeling of being remote.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:45
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 14:45
yea, thats why id take the car.. and a swag :)
pink lakes sounds ok..
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 15:45
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 15:45
not when it's 40c...fancy a bit of salt mining do ya
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 15:46
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 15:46
hey I like salt on my steak.. :(
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 17:40
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 17:40
You whackers - its was 45C in the shade last time you/we were in that area.
And Truckie, whats with the Eric finding me a car quip.
Whats wrong with the one you have.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:43
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:43
It felt like 45, probably why we were the only whackers there.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:58
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:58
Hey Lucy
Trucky is going down market and wants Eric to find hima Gee Oh Gee Gee Oh Mobile. I can just see him on the
Border Track trying to drive over a Mallee Stump..hahahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:08
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:08
Get me one willem, and lets travel!
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Reply By: Patrol Freak (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 17:41
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 17:41
SA/Vic boarder track south of
Pinnaroo has just been reopened.I wood check with national pks if trailers allowed. number 08 8576 3690. They did'nt close track for nothing.
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Follow Up By: navaraman - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:04
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:04
"They did'nt close track for nothing."
Unfortunately it seems that often do just that. It's a bone of contention with a lot of people that the tracks is closed so often.
I met a group of about 8 cars last year half of which were towing standard type offroad CTs. They had been through the one way section and had to snatch over some of the dunes . As I left them I heard over the UHF one of the trailers was stuck but they seemed to get it over fairly quickly and without too much difficulty.
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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 18:07
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 18:07
Pete we are planning on doing this same track next year.
Let us know how it was thinking of heading in from
Mildura and doing a few of the Nat parks then onto the great ocean road.
Hope to hear about it
All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:06
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:06
Will do Eric - we are doing a couple of weeks in the
Flinders Ranges and then thinking about heading down to
Portland and the Great Ocean Road via the
Border Track. If we are able to get through I will record the track on the GPS and make it available to everyone.
Cheers
Pete
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Reply By: Casnat - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 18:46
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 18:46
If someone can give instructions as to how to post a picture on here I wil post one showing the biggest dune on the track. There used to be others but some have now got detours around them.
I personnally think a trailer would not be a good idea.
It should also be rememberred that the
Border track goes for a long way. A trailer would not be a problem on the sections North of Pinarroo (ie to
Renmark) or South of Bordertown. The 1 way section with the bigger dunes runs between Pinarroo and Bordertown.
Anyway, can someone tell me how to post a pic? Or perhaps I can email it to someone else who can post it
Trevor
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:02
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:02
Thanks Trev - I don't know how to post pics but could you please email it to me peteandlyn22atbigponddotcom
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: Casnat - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:34
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:34
email sent with 6 photos. Took a long time to send so checked the size and its 10 Meg! Sorry. Hope you are on broadband. Let me know if you want me to resend in smaller bites.
Trev
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:08
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:08
I've haven't seen a pic yet that gives the two major dunes any justice.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:31
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:31
Trev could you please send again in smaller bits. Nothing has come through yet.
Thanks
Pete
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Follow Up By: Dean (SA) - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:44
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:44
Gday Trevor,
I pretty sure you have to be a member to post pictures.
Dean
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Reply By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:07
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 19:07
Thanks Everyone - I had intended to contact the Rangers before attempting it but just thought I would get the advice of anyone who had actually driven it with a trailer - and thanks for that info Roachie.
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: Dean (SA) - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 13:09
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 13:09
Pete,
If the border is closed the centre track has plenty of smaller sandhills, easy/fun without a trailer. Good scenery, loads of
wildflowers and remoteness.
Dean!MPG:9!
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 18:01
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 18:01
Thanks Dean will keep that in mind.
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Reply By: Pig Dog - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:47
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 20:47
My brother got through without any real hassles driving a Troopy and towing a Kimberly Kamper. We snatched him over a couple of dunes early on but after lowering tyre pressures down to around 18-20psi on car and trailer found the going easier. Most big dunes have an easier route around them. Just carry a couple of Snatch Straps. We when from the Sturt Hwy to the Western Hwy.
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Reply By: ferris - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 21:28
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 21:28
Pete, you should be able to take a trailer through without too many hassles, just let your tyres down - 15lbs or less and you shouldn't need that tirfor. There's been a few times when I've had my tyres at 10lbs or less to get up a dune. Don't forget about your trailer tyres as
well. It all helps. The degree of difficulty is controlled by the amount of moisture in the sand. This time of the year is easy, February and March difficult.
There is some talk of the track being closed each year between November and April because of the fire risk. Seems they'll use any excuse to close the track.
One option if the track is closed, is the
Murrayville-Yanak Track which is easy going. You then get onto the dog netting fence track which goes west back to the
border track. Brings you out onto the southern section below the national
park (closed section). The
dog fence track can be a challenge in
places, but no worse than the
border track. Either way the scenery is much the same.
I would strongly recommend against travelling on the southern section (near Nhill)of the
border track after rain. It is clay and there are huge bog holes as deep as a car. When dry you can drive through them. When full of
water you can't see them. If you drive straight in and have a
snorkel, no problems, you'll drive out ok. The danger is putting one wheel over the side and tipping over.
I hope that helps your planning.
Cheers Ferris.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 18:05
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 18:05
Thanks for that advice Ferris - I'll plot that track in oziexplorer as a standby route.
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 21:31
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 21:31
If your Patrol has plenty of power & the trailer isn't too heavy it's a fairly straight forward run on the one way section. All dunes have chicken tracks & the last time we went with a trailer it only needed a short snatch on one. With a second vehicle to help you out you shouldn't hold other groups up too much.
Cheers Craig............
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Reply By: Colin Shaw - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:43
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:43
Going through this weekend - will let you know.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 18:04
Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 18:04
Thanks Colin - will look forward to the report.
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Reply By: Colin Shaw - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:23
Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:23
Travelled the section from
Pinnaroo to
Serviceton on the weekend. We did not tow a trailer but thought of your question as we drove along. The sand was very dry and loose on the Saturday when we made the trip. A little rain would make it easier.There are some big dunes either side of
Red Bluff but all have side tracks, although some are still steep.Several dunes have four or five tracks up so the secret is to pick the easiest route. In almost all cases I generally found the right hand tracks would be easiest for you. I had my tyres at 25 psi until the biggest dune which I failed to clearfirst attempt. Dropping to 15 psi solved the problem.
Apart from the dunes the track was firm and the sand not at all deep.
South of
Red Bluff there are some massive bog holes - deep enough to cover the vehicle. Just when you think you have cleared the worst another one shows up. All have sidetracks - make sure you chose one before you get too close to the bog hole as there is not a lot of room to turn and there is a fair amount of scrub between the main and side track so you would have to reverse. Of the four vehicles in my group three got stuck at least once.
Take the trailer but if you want to tackle the biggest dunes unhook it first, go up without it, go around then take the trailer by the sidetrack.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2005 at 19:51
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2005 at 19:51
Thanks Colin - sounds like the side tracks will be the way for me.
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: sudsy - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:37
Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:37
Dont forget the cresting flags either.
There was a couple of lads on motorcross bikes screaming along the track the weekend we went, but of no consequense. I was stuck in one of them bogholes when they went past...................laughing.
Too sloppy in the ruts and bellied out.
As colin said, a couple or more of those bogholes will totally submerge your truck when full off water.
I would take the flags off after the sandhill south of
Red Bluff though or they'll cop a hammering from the overhanging trees.
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Reply By: Colin Shaw - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:10
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:10
If you have an email adress I can forward photos.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 16:48
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 16:48
Thanks Colin I would appreciate that: peteandlyn22atbigponddotcom
Cheers
Pete
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