First Trip Dramas

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Jude and I recently returned from our first big trip. Our outfit is a gas/petrol Maverick and Jayco Eagle Outback. Our route was from Melbourne to Ayres Rock, Kings canyon, Alice Springs and back home via the Oodnadatta Track and Wilpena Pound. Prior to the trip I did everything to the car. New clutch, brakes, tyres, repacked the bearings, new shocks, points, condensor etc. Had it dynoed 2 day before we left to make sure that everything was in tune. My neighbour who is a mechanic did the dyno and said that it spat a little water out through the overflow when on the dyno. Not good, but not uncommon. I was a little uneasy about it but it was only 2 days before we were due to leave so I took the gamble and took off. The weather was crappy with very strong head winds and the poor old bus was struggling. Overnight at Keith and when I checked the water the next morning, it was very low needing about 3 or 4 litres. The overflow bottle was again full and I knew things were not right. It hadn't overheated so we kept going. Battled through the Adelaide hills and as we were heading towards Salisbury it started to overheat at some roadworks. Pulled into a garage and filled the radiator again. By this time I was starting to feel sick. I knew that we were in trouble. We pushed on to our next stop where in desperation I put in a can of chemiweld. This I did at the caravan park which is not the most ideal place. It was getting dark and only having a torch you can imagine the fun I had draining the water etc. Because of where I was I had to cut corners a little as sitting there running it for 20 minutes would have had the neighbours up in arms so I went for a drive. Packed up in the windy wet the next morning and pushed on with everything crossed. Stopped for morning tea and checked the water. Things seemed OK so I was a little happier although deep down, I was still not convinced. Got to Pt Agusta and things were back to normal. Radiator down and overflow full. This time I knew that something would have to be done. Went to see the local 4WD specialist in town and as I started to explain what was happening, he just smiled and nodded. He knew what was wrong, (I did too just didn't want to admit it). He said that it was a head gasket, corroded head, or both. This was on Tuesday and he couldn't look at it until next week. Now I felt really good. This was 3 days into our 4 weeks. He put me onto another mechanic and he told me basically the same thing. Lucily we had taken out RACV Extra Care so we rang them and within 15 minutes the RAA service van was there. We followed him back to the workshop and he confirmed that it had oxygen in the water. Luckily (I guess) he had a complete machine shop so the job could be done in house. The RACV/RAA were fantastic and within a very short time we had our hire car and were back at the van having several beers thinking what a great start to our long awaited adventure. The dreaded phone call came the next afternoon with the damage. It needed a complete overhaul of the head which included new valves, guides and seats, a new radiator and every hose replaced. $2620, 3 days lost, and we were back on the road. We had to re hash our itinerary but other than the hip pocket not to much damage done. The bus performed flawlessy from then on (so it bloody should have) until Cadney park on the way home. As there was no gas available along the Oodnadatta Track, I filled up both tanks at Marla. As I was leaving Marla I switched to petrol. I ran it a few days earlier and everything was running OK. It ran like a dog. I had just pulled out onto the highway and the thing wouldn't go. I couldn't even get over 30KPH. I new it was a fuel blockage as it wasn't the first time it had happened. I wanted to run it on petrol from Marla to Cadney Park as I wasn't sure if there was gas available there. The only way she would run was to open the second barrell as the blockage was in the primary circuit. It ran ok when the second throat opened so I managed to maintain a reasonable speed for about 30 k. I finally had enough of watching the fuel gauge drop at an alarming rate and switched back to gas. Got to Cadney Park and as it turned out they had gas. Pulled the carby off and cleaned it out as good as I could under the circumstances. Re fitted it and it seemed to be OK. Took the gamble and headed off through the painted desert the next morning. It was fine except it still had a blockage in the idle circuit but I could live with that. It just idled like a bucket of crap. We did 740k on petrol and except for the idle it ran well.

The trip was fantastic putting our dramas aside. The country that we live in is quite remarkable with the most unexpected things in the middle of nowhere. The Oodndatta track was fascinating with the old Ghan ruins and history along the way. Coward Springs camp ground is amazing with the best and cleanest drop dunnies I have ever seen. I could go on forever but I just thought you might like to read about the dramas that can happen from time to time. Although ours was only minimal compared to a couple we spoke to at Kings Canyon. They were stuck in Renmark for 3 weeks and left $8000 poorer. (Nissan 2.8 T/D) We were lucky. The van performed faultlessy (something had to) except for when the hatch opened itself (i'm sure I closed it) along the dirt road into the Painted Desert and filled it with red dust. Jude was not happy. Regards, Glenn n Jude

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Reply By: Redback - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:25

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:25
Mate you got back safe and sound and the rest of the trip sounded OK, as you said could of been worse.

$8000, crikey, thats half what the cars worth, you got off lightly.

Great read

Baz.
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Reply By: Nudenut - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:43

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:43
great trip...albeit a tad expensive
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:37

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:37
If it was easy everyone would be doing it.

Seriously that's why we call them adventures. We have met some wonderful people broken down at the side of the road, both them and us.

We had friends whose Jayco started to open between Louth and Tilpa. The catch had broken off the front corner of the roof and it was lifting. We fixed it with a bit of coathanger wire and a leatherman. The van had about three buckets of dirt in it when they got home. But they had a ball.

You will go again. You'll take a few more precautions and have more and more fun as you learn how to travel and get to meet the wonderful people who live in and travel this amazing country.

Duncs

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Reply By: Member - Poppy (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:59

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:59
Good reading Glenn
At least you finished up having a great time
A bit luckier than the truck in my rig pic, took that pic on our way to Weipa in May, apparently his brakes caught fire.
Cheers Poppy
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Reply By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:06

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:06
Glenn and Jude,

The 4WD specialist in Port Augusta was pretty friendly and helpful to me when I needed help, pity he couldn't fit you in. You were really lucky to get a big job like that done pretty much straight away, but generally I found country people would be very genuine in trying to help travellers out if they could. I too had problems early in my trip, mainly due to the additional loads on the vehicle that showed up previously hidden weaknesses. Good thing is this was a good shake down trip for the next one!!

There was a test the mechanic could have done when he did the dyno before you left, probably the same one as the RAC guy did. They take a bit of coolant and put an indicator dye in it to see if there is any CO2 in the fluid. This will pick up a leak before you see the other signs, like bubbles in the radiator.

There's different product apart from chemiweld I found worked perfectly with an EB Falcon of mine with early symptoms of head problems. Not sure what it is called, but it costs less than $20 and has a copper colour to it. The copper beads separate out in the bottle so you see this two layed effect in the bottle, copper on the bottom. Someone else might know the name of it. It sealed up the leak for over 10K before I traded the Falcon on the HJ61, and doing the CO2 test showed up zero which was a fantastic result.

I must admit I hate having vehicle troubles on trips, or worrying about things that might go wrong - just ruins the 'holiday' part of the adventure.

All the best for your next trip

Tim
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:26

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:26
Glenn
great account of drama. I was feeling sick just reading about how you hoped the car would come good, but each little piece of evidence pointed toward the inevitable.
At least it should be right for a while now.
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Reply By: cuffs - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:28

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:28
Great read, memories and camp fire yarns, well worth it.
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Reply By: time waster - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 16:41

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 16:41
are you happy with the eagle and is it an outback?
we have just sold our c/t and ordered a new eagle outback.I know we will be limited to were we can take it.
what mod's have you done?
cheer's
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Follow Up By: Chambo - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:44

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:44
Howdy, Jude and I are very happy with the Eagle and yes, it is an outback. The van is as standard as the day we bought it. It gave is no trouble on our trip of 7500k. We hammered it down the Oodnadatta track sometime sitting on nearly 100KPH. Prior to the trip I fitted a screw on hose connector for the sullage and the stones smashed it but other than the force of the stones bending back the water tank guard that was it. I did make a large mud flap for the car which worked very well. We love our Eagle and I reckon you could probably go to a few more places than you think. I just remembered one thing, the hand water pumped died the day we left home. The whole shaft from the pump fell out and had to replace it at our favourite place Pt Agusta!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:48

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:48
I was a bit luckier than you (didnt feel it at the time) and heeded the warnings
During a beach trip I noticed it had started using alot of water with no leaking and got it home and noticed it was bubbling into the radiator. As I was just about to go on a 14k trip I took it to the mechanic and as I pulled up all the coolant started pouring out the side of the motor
Result was a stuffed sideplate and a cracked head $3000 and a delay for my holiday. I took of at 8.00pm at night just before easter and got 100k down the road and began checking things out- water pump was leaking so I dropped the water level which fixed that and had no more trouble besides the hole in the radiator and the front wheel nearly falling off losing my bearings and the brakes nstopped working. No idea what the 6 weeks cost because I knew looking at the bank balance wasnt going to help
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Reply By: mechpete - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 23:27

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 23:27
Hi Chambo.
just read ya biography, there,s a lesson to be learnt here !!!
never leave the vehicle maintence till last cos ya don,t have time to check if everything is ok and fix it ,not being nasty but we don,t live in a perfect world
cheers , mechpete Shepp.
PS isn,t Coward Springs a great oasis ??????????
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