Gov wants to RAISE fuel Excise!!!!

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Motorists warn of petrol excise fury
September 21, 2005

Any move by the federal government to lift the excise on fuel would break a commitment it made in 2003, Australia's largest motoring organisation says.

NRMA motoring services president Alan Evans said today that as well as breaking its commitment, any rise in fuel excise was particularly concerning given recent record petrol price rises.

"They agreed in 2001 to cap excise and I think motorists will be angry on two counts," Mr Evans told the Nine network.

"One, that the government's going back on that undertaking but secondly that money's going out of their pockets to oil companies who in the last few weeks ... have increased their margins threefold."

Mr Evans said the plan, designed to help oil companies develop cleaner fuels, would merely pull them into line with what was currently being done in Europe and North America anyway.

A Sydney newspaper reported today the government was planning to lift the capped 38 cents a litre petrol excise by 0.6 cents next year.

It is intended to use this to subsidise a switch by petrol companies to more environmentally friendly fuels which contain less sulphur.

Excise on diesel would also rise by 0.7 cents per litre, but not until 2007.

Australian Taxation office Assistant Commissioner of Excise, Beth Barry, has confirmed the changes are on the table, and will run for two years from January 1.

"The raising of the excise duty provides funding to allow a grant to be paid to support the introduction of cleaner fuel standards in Australia," she told the newspaper.

The major oil companies had increased their average share of the soaring $1.40 a litre fuel price from five cents to 17 cents between July and September, Mr Evans said.

This clearly demonstrated they were able to pick up the tab for clean fuel reform, he said.

Mr Evans said the changes would probably add around one cent a litre to the price paid by motorists once the GST was added.

"We'll find we're probably paying a cent extra and it's $150 million (a year) approximately that will go into the pockets of the oil companies, when they've already enjoyed quite a windfall profit over the last few weeks," he said.

"And of course, the commonwealth government has also had a windfall profit with the resource rent tax."

In addition, governments had benefited from a GST windfall of $1 billion delivered in recent times by higher petrol prices, he said.

"So, both federal and state governments are enjoying quite a bit of extra money at our expense and we haven't seen any of it coming back to us - the motorists," he said.

The NRMA will host a petrol summit on Thursday, at which Mr Evans said he was likely to call for the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission to be given greater powers to explore petrol pricing.

- AAP
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:01

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:01
And to think JWH stood before the masses and declared that contrary to many peoples beliefs, the fuel excise was NOT variable, was capped and that the gov had no plans to raise or lower it.

Surely he wouldn't have lied to us, would he...?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:10

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:10
only the deaf and blind would have believed that...

and whats worse if everyone does vote him out, look what we end up with... a party with no leader, no morals, and no policys. sounds like the crowd in there now eh!
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:19

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:19
2 party prefered politics sux
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:35

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:35
no arguing from me there.

also being forced to vote .. that takes it in the ring
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Follow Up By: madCrow - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:03

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:03
Hi Truckster
if voting wasn't compulsory (or at least attending the polling booth & getting ur name ticked off) we could end up with.... a voting system like the good ol' "us of a" & we all "want" to live there. Plus we could have elections for example like the year Ronald Regan was voted pres. where less than 16% of voting population voted, of that, half voted for Regan, which in reality was only 8% of the voters & look what they got "Star Wars", etc., etc..
Compulsory voting makes all have to decide upon which government rules.
Non Compulsory voting means that a lot of the population ignores reality, passes the buck, sits on their arses, bitch & complain about how hard life is on them, while they don't really do anything substantial for themselves or for their neighbours or the wider community, but they are willing to blame others for their problems.
Non Compulsory voting gives JWH & his crew what they want, even more control, with potentially world domination, which really belongs to the bunnies of the world.

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Follow Up By: madCrow - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:07

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:07
Shy Bunny's trying hard not to be seen & it's working!
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Follow Up By: madCrow - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:09

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:09
This definitely the last attempt tp appear!
Shy Bunny's trying hard not to be seen & it's working!
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:11

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:11
3rd time lucky...
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:43

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:43
There's one thing about Mr Howie....... he's not afraid to make the unpopular decisions, is he!
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 13:57

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 13:57
Love him or hate him, you gotta give credit for that.... Too many polies get watered down along the way.
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:52

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:52
Additional info as reported on the ABC.

Mr Howard says the policy is being reviewed as it was developed when petrol prices averaged 90 cents per litre instead of the $1.40 being experienced in many parts of Australia recently.

"That was an announcement that was announced a couple of years ago in an entirely different environment. It is being reviewed," he said.

We shall see.

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Reply By: sudsy - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 13:09

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 13:09
To make cleaner burning fuels eh?
Will we get even more crap in our fuel to wear out our engines quicker.
It's "watered down" with enough junk already isn't it?
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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 14:12

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 14:12
I believe the Caltex refinery in Sydney is having a maintainance "shutdown" at the moment. I suppose that will be another excuse for a price increase ? I used to ask why the price of diesel jumped and was told "american demand for winter heating fuels or Chinas demand has caused it". There must be some guys in full time employment dreaming up excuses.
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Reply By: signman - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 14:12

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 14:12
Truckster
Wot's the going price for fuel down in Wogtoria?? Do you have the cycles ie cheaper (or should I say less expensive) on Tuesdays???Tuesday ULP here is $1.29 till about 4.00pm then the same stuff under the ground all of a sudden is $1.39.
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 14:25

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 14:25
Jumping in here, VICtoria :-) has a discounting cycle, it jumps up Tuesdays/Wednesdays.

Shell has a good website with graphs of the pricing cycle for each major city:

http://tinyurl.com/awwhr

That URL redirects to the Shell website's page (which had a huge URL)
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 15:22

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 15:22
There will be no increase in fuel excise due to the currnet fuel situation & the "friendlier fuel" research will be fully funded from the budget ........ Peter Costello 20/9/05.

So you can put away the ropes there will be no lynching today!
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 15:31

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 15:31
Yup - maybe give them a little credit once in a while.
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Calm down fellas.... as a government, they really do listen.... maybe give them some credit for that.
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Petrol excise increase 'abandoned'
From: AAP

September 20, 2005

A PLANNED increase in the excise on petrol has been abandoned, Treasurer Peter Costello said today.
Mr Costello said the increase, which would have added 0.06 cents a litre to the cost of all petrol, would now be financed directly out of the budget.

The rise, which was to have taken effect from January 1 next year, was intended to fund the introduction of cleaner fuels.

"Given current market conditions the government has decided there will be no increase in excise to fund this incentive," Mr Costello said.

"The incentive for low sulphur premium unleaded petrol will be funded from the budget.

"Excise will remain at 38.143 cents, the same rate as was fixed when indexation was abolished in 2001."

The government has been under pressure over climbing oil prices and the government's excise and GST on petrol.

Earlier today, Prime Minister John Howard signalled the government may change its position on the excise increase.

The increase was agreed upon in 2003 to help cover the cost of the introduction of low sulphur fuel.

Mr Costello said the government would continue to review the arrangements covering the introduction of low sulphur fuels.

"New, lower sulphur, mandatory standards will apply to diesel from 1 January 2009," he said.

"Incentives to take up these standards from 1 January 2007 will be reviewed in the period prior to implementation to ensure it aligns with new fuel standards and market conditions."

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Govt backs down on fuel tax
From: AAP

September 20, 2005

Petrol prices / AFP
Bowser bite ... Cabinet is meeting to discuss the excise cut / AFP

THE Federal Government has backed down on plans to increase fuel excise from January 1 next year.
Treasurer Peter Costello said today there would be no hike despite a statement made in mid-2003 that fuel excise, currently capped at 38c a litre, would increase from January 1, 2006.

Mr Costello said the 0.06 increase will now be financed directly out of the Budget.

The rise in fuel tax was supposed to have funded payments to oil companies to encourage them to produce more environmentally-friendly fuels that were lower in sulphur.

But the prospect of an excise hike raised the ire of motoring groups and drivers across Australia, as families struggle with already high petrol prices.

Earlier today, Prime Minister John Howard signalled the Government may change its position when he said the increase was never set in stone.

"That was an announcement that was made a couple of years ago in an entirely different environment and the announcement said that the desirability and need for it would be reviewed before it came into operation," Mr Howard said.

"I can assure you and I can assure the Australian public that it is being reviewed and is being reviewed very soon, and we may have something further to say about that, even later today."

Federal Opposition leader Kim Beazley said the Government would have been "out of touch" if it went ahead with the increase.

Earlier today, Australia's largest motoring organisation said Government moves to lift the excise on fuel would hurt cash-strapped motorists even further.

NRMA motoring services president Alan Evans said that as well as breaking its commitment, any rise in fuel excise was particularly concerning given recent record petrol price hikes.

"They agreed in 2001 to cap excise and I think motorists will be angry on two counts," Mr Evans said on Channel 9.

"One, that the Government's going back on that undertaking but secondly that money's going out of their pockets to oil companies who in the last few weeks ... have increased their margins threefold."

Mr Evans said the changes would have added around one cent a litre to the price paid by motorists once the GST was added.

The scheduled increase was first announced when petrol was just 90c a litre - motorists are now being paying more than $1.30 a litre.
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Reply By: Michael Carey - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 17:56

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 17:56
I thought the GST was supposed to replace other taxes. eg Sales Tax was removed and GST introduced. Was there ever a sales tax 10,20,30% on fuel??
I think it is a bit rough having GST and an excise (which is another word for tax) on fuel. A tax on a tax is dastardly!!
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 18:36

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 18:36
I think I read that somewhere as well, Might be mistaken but.

If they know what is good for them I.E, still want their jobs in 2 years time I don’t think they will be rasing anything.

If a government raised fuel Tax, I don’t think any Australian would vote them back in.

At the moment the states get all the money from the GST on fuel and just about everything else. (I don’t hear any states complaining do you?)
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Follow Up By: angler - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:30

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:30
Jonny has to get extras from somewhere as OZ is increasing aid by double to other countrys.
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