FORD F250 T/D 7.3litre compare.

Submitted: Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:10
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HI ALL,
I am thinking of buying a FORD F250 7.3litre turbo/d as a towing vehicle for our 23 ft windsor c/van 28,000 kg. Can anyone tell me fuel consumption figures towing as compared to say a 100 series L/C. Will the 250 be better?or not.
Anything you come up with will be a help.
CHEERS,PAYNIE.
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Reply By: OLDMAGPIE - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:18

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:18
i would luv to see what a 28,000kg van looks like
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:25

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:25
me too....hehehehehehe
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:26

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:26
How much would a house weigh?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:31

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:31
I think I've got it.......

They're are made by Freuhof (spell check???) and have 12 wheels on 3 axles (commonly called a "tri-ax"). I think this is gunna discount the cruiser from the equation, cos it is gunna have to be a 5th wheeler (unless you wanna add a "dolly" from a road train, which would mean you might be able to use a cruiser if it's fitted witha pintle hook, but you'd have to have the mutha of all electric brake controllers).

Fitting-out one of these 40 foot long trailers would be a great way to blow $100 grand......or you could just buy a fridge van and have the whole "house" air conditioned.

I could go on.

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Roachie
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Follow Up By: PAYNIE - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:09

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:09
Sorry,OOOPPPSSS,,,IN wrong spot try 2,800kg
Your on the ball.CHERS,PAYNIE.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:17

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:17
Ohhhh....THAT makes more sense....lol
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Reply By: PAYNIE - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:25

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:25
IS NOBODY GONG TO TRY AND ANSWER ORIGIONAL QUESTION ?????
OR IS THAT THE 28,000$ ONE.
CHEERS,PAYNIE.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:36

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:36
Why struggle with the little truck pulling that huge weight. The Ford will handle it easily. Don't know about consumption though.
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 14:42

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 14:42
Ray

With a truck that size he could throw a couple of 44's in the back.

We know a couple with one and a large van, but I think he gilds the lilly a tad with his claimed consumption figures. Can't remember them exactly, but suffice to say by his claims, it'd give a Moped a run for the money. ;o)

Cheers
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Reply By: Utemad - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:47

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:47
Well don't know about specific weights but ours have gotten anything between 450km to 900km per tank. Mostly highway kms. The difference in range is due to weight carried or towed. However even unloaded you will only get 500km around town. The 900km figure was all highway with only me on board. Only ever achieved that figure twice though.

This is for an F250 dual cab 7.3L V8 auto with the standard 113L tank. However we usually put in about 90L when it reads empty.

I think unless you are going to be using it solely for its intended purpose get the Cruiser. I would prefer to live with the Cruiser than the F250. The F250s are no fun to drive in town and not much chop if you want to do any real 4wding.
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:49

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:49
Forgot to say that the F250s have a bad rep for being unreliable. I am wary of taking them to far away from help.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 23:53

Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 23:53
Hi Utemad - what problems have you had? Not that we will buy one unless we win Lotto. Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 15:59

Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 15:59
If you search I've mentioned some before but off the top of my head we've had these problems.

Most recently we spewed sump oil out of the motor via the diesel pump. As it uses oil pressure to operate the pump. We had to limp it to Sydney by topping up the oil regularly. Then it took them 5 days to fix. It was a huge leak. We used 15L to get 200km. Lucky we had some with us. They told us it was a faulty o-ring.
The wheel alignment is never any good. Always flogging out tyres and the truck wanders on the road. This has been "fixed" a few times.
The rear shackles needed replacing as they were metal on metal. One of them like this from new.
Been through countless brake light switches. One time we couldn't get it out of Park (long walk involved) and another time we couldn't get it into Park. Other times were intermittent which buggers the cruise control plus no brake lights of course.
Had a casting hole in the turbo manifod which leaked pressure with a very loud whistle (still there but somewhat better after getting "fixed").
The air con is useless in Qld.
Had a replacement fuel pump (in tank) after lots of fighting. Sometimes you would put your foot down and it would just die. Great when entering a freeway.
Lots of other niggly problems over the years that I can't recall but bleep you off at the time. Such as various trim parts missing or damaged when picked up from dealer. Plus had the oil filter work its way loose a few times. Coating the underside in oil.

They're great for towing but you can't trust them to get you home.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 11:09

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 11:09
UteMad i take it this was with a number of vehicles, not just one big bad lemon?
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 16:22

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 16:22
Our company has two of these utes. They have both had all the same probs except that one had the fuel pump issue and the other had the spewing sump oil from the diesel pump issue. I have spoken to many people who have had the rear shackle problem and the steering issue and some others who have had issues with other things we haven't (yet :-( ) However some other people say they have had no problems. So maybe they have a dealer that replaces these problematic parts when serviced without telling them or maybe they are just damn lucky.

So it is not just a one off lemon unfortunately.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 16:57

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 16:57
Thanks for the feedback Utemad. I did recall posts on Exploroz some time back of people having problems with F250s, wheras the Bushtracker people who have them have only rarely reported problems; 1 was a faulty "injector pressure sensor" on a brand new vehicle, another a "cam timing sensor". I wonder are the horrid problems you describe related to any particluar year model? Just out of interest. The new ones are too dear, and the second hand ones even dearer (very rare). I would be reluctant to purchase second hand without knowing the history. We're giving it a go sticking with the little Patrol 3 ltr and hope it doesn't die on us in the middle of nowhere. Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 17:43

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 17:43
One is a late 2003 (fuel pump problem) and the other an early 2004 (diesel pump oil problem). Both were bought new and have both done about 75000km. Niether I would trust to return me home.

If your worried about your 3 litre leaving you stranded then don't buy an F250.

I just remembered that one came new with a faulty fuel gauge. I still remember the long walk when my fuel gauge told me I had 1/4 tank left when it sputtered and died.
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 13:39

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 13:39
Ford 250s are highly prized by the Bushtraker community

http://www.bushtrackerownersgroup.asn.au/Default.asp

Talk on their forum about consumption seems to say that towing it will do better than a LC but not towing it will be slightly more around town.

They talk about 14-15 around town not towing and about 18 when towing.

They all curse the vehicle around town due to size and turning circle but all give it a wrap for towing and out west.

Not a Victorian high country vehicle I suspect.

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Reply By: Bullwinkle - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 15:27

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 15:27
Paynie - maate! If you can afford an F250, do you really give a rat's about the fuel economy?
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 15:58

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 15:58
Depending on which Cruiser and F250 he is looking at there isn't much difference in price. Although the top of the line Cruiser and F250 are very different in trim levels.
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Reply By: Sarg - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:45

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:45
Why not look at the 4.2lt 6 cyl TD F Series?. Heaps cheaper than the 7.3 & more torque and kw than the Toyota. Better fuel economy as well
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 23:21

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 23:21
I have raised similar questions on forums. The Bushtracker people with the F250s get similar fuel consumption to us towing with our Patrol, and i think Landcruisers similar as well. Towing a heavy van costs. We averaged 5 kms per litre towing with the Patrol (with apologies to the how much per 100 km gang). We would love an F250 for towing as the Bushtracker is really too heavy for the Nissan, but they don't come cheap, and are a scarce commodity on the 2nd hand market. Saw one for sale 2nd hand at $105,000 (was fitted out well), when they are around $80,000 new! I think with the F250 the fuel costs are higher when your not towing than a smaller vehicle, and don't fit into parking bays - great for towing if that's all you do with it - but i would prefer my Patrol as a regular wagon.
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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Friday, Oct 14, 2005 at 20:00

Friday, Oct 14, 2005 at 20:00
I don't understand, don't you guy's have the bogsite, and also the private bogsite to clean information in regard to tow vechiles for Bushtrackers, and even the "lone ranger" and all those tips would have thought that you would have found the answer by now, maybe its to get a lighter van, still i will agree that 5k to the litre is a bit rough i get more than that with my 4.8 and thats petrol, for what its worth met a station owner on the Tanami last year who had changed from a LC to the 250 and was about to go back to the Nissan just did not like the rough roads.
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Reply By: Vinnie - Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 08:00

Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 08:00
Did yer know they come with thier own postcode cause dey is so big.
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Reply By: leon - Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 20:46

Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 20:46
Paynie our f250 did average 5kl ti ltr on a recant trip from tas up as far as heavey bay & return towing our 16ft off rd van this inc 5 days on Fraser & a run on stockton beach . General running in Tas we average 6.6 & have been as high as7.6
Cheers Leon
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Follow Up By: Member - ALLAN P (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 21:01

Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 21:01
THANKS LEON,
L/CRUISER T/D HAS WON OVER PICK ONE UP IN THE MORNING.
CHEERS, PAYNIE.
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Reply By: gazza54 - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 10:13

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 10:13
Hi Paynie,

I see you are going to by a Landcruiser which are a very good vehicle.

I have had an F250 for 15 months now, I had the same decission to make but I eventualy decided on the F250. The only warranty claim was the sterring was a little sloppy and was fixed to my satisfaction.
I managed to by my F250 7.3L XLT Space Cab on the road for $70,100.
I have now done 30K and at resently at Karrumba towing a 18'6 Royal Flair Off Road Full Van weighing approx 2.5 ton. Cruising at 100k/p/h and recieving 17L per 100k. I have installed a long range tank which gives me about 1450KL.
They can be a problem to park but if you are travelling do you need to park at the front door. The F250 would be one of the most comfortable vehicles that I have driven. I read one of the comments that this person has had a few problems with his F250 and I feel for him but I have also heard the same for the Nissan and the Landcruiser so it is a personel choice. For all readers you may want to buy the 4x4 Australia October 2005 with Neil Cocks and where he has just been with his F250 you might be very surprised with his comments.

Good travelling to everybody (enjoy)

Regards
Gary and Lorraine
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Reply By: cunnamulla - Friday, Oct 14, 2005 at 10:31

Friday, Oct 14, 2005 at 10:31
I have read some of your responses and it seems that a lot do not know what they are talking about when it comes to F250's. Most have never had the experience and are just blabbing on.
I have a2004 Cab/chassis pulling a 20F offroad van. Whole rig loaded weighed in at 6500kg.
Have just completed a 16000k trip on and off road and my average was 18.5L/100k. Unloaded and no van aget around 13L/100. MUCH better than a Nissan Patrol Cab/chassis I had originally.
Its got all the power you need and has more grunt than a pen full of pigs.
Have now clocked up 25000k and not a problem. Look after it and it will look after you.
It is agreat touring and towing unit and I would have nothing else.
The only problem is that you get a lot of "visitors" in a caravan park wanting to know all about the beast. Real bugger when you are setting up or just leaving. Next time I am going to hand out a flyer which will answer all the questions one gets. Should save time.
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