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Submitted: Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 21:51
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Hi All,
we are about to set off on our first trip aroud Oz early next year and are really having a struggle with what type of dinghy to take and how we are going to get it on the roof of our car / NM Pajero, will be towing an 18 footer. I am told 75 kg max to be safe. Rhino have now bought out a track insert that fits into the rail and increases the load to 100kg. Are you crazy to not invest in an auto loader??? What are the safest and eaisest methods without spending a fortune. What is the minimum size boat required to be versatile for a family of 3. Thanks in advance for any help and advice.
Reply By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 22:18
Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 22:18
Go to the Thule website, and do a search for the HULLAVATOR.
Side load gas strut assist.
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Reply By: ShnogDog - Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 23:00
Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 23:00
save your back...get a loader. You wouldnt want to spoil your trip by putting your back out.
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Reply By: Tessysdad - Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 23:17
Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 23:17
We have a 3.75 Quintrex Dart powered by a Honda 15hp outboard. It easily goes on top of the Patrol. A friend was so impressed he got the same rig to carry on top of his 2004 Pajero. The Dart is a very seaworthy boat for its size. We have the longshaft transom. The outboard is carried on one side of the dual
wheels carrier we have had fitted. We recently swapped our boat trailer for a little bulldog fold-up trailer that is mounted on the caravan draw bar while travelling. Our van is a 16' Jayco Outback Freedom pop-top. Have seen one of those Rhino boat loaders in action and it certainly makes things look a lot easier. I am a not particularly fit 53 y/o and I have not as yet found it necessary to even think about a boat loader. Its easy enough. Be careful not to go too short in your boat selection as the shorter they are the harder they are to load onto your 4wd roof - even the Rhino loader pamphlet gives a minimum boat size. Its all to do with where the pivot point ends up.
Happy campinng,
Mike & Jan.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:01
Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:01
I also have a Quintrex with with a 15 hp and consider this a minimum safe size for fishing in estuary wind chop and crocodile areas .
It gets up and planes with two plus gear , but a third person gives it trouble . Any bigger motor though , is too hard to lift .
I only rest the bow on the roof rack of my Trak Shak camper and push it up , so I have no info about boat loaders except to say that I have met quite a few
grey nomads ( like myself ) who swear by one made in Qld .
Cheers ,
Willie
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:02
Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:02
That should have read "Quintrex 3.75 m Dart "
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:46
Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:46
Brand names are not important.
Size is the governing factor as to how many you can legally carry in the boat and how heavy it is for putting on top of a vehicle.
I have a 3.4 metre V-nose punt which is quite stable on inland waterways and "inshore" protected areas of coastal regions.
This boat is licenced to carry three adults and has a maximum engine rating of 15 horsepower.
I wouldn't like to have a bigger boat if you are putting it on the roof but this size boat with a 15 hp motor will get up on the plane quickly with three adults on board and hook along at about 40 kph. Weight from memory is about 65 kg and is suitable for "car-topping" although
mine travels on top of the camper.
A 15 hp outboard is also about the biggest you should consider as far as lifting & storage considerations go.
I would also recommend a folding, or collapsible boat trailer to get it from the
camping area to the
water easily. I used to use clamp on
wheels but found them practically useless.
A couple I can recommend is the Flip'n'Easy (which I have) or the Real-Easy brand which advertise on this site.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:29
Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:29
Sand Man ,
Next time you are trying to get across the estuary in your V nose punt and the wind comes up in the afternoon - think about me in my deep V Dart . Brand names ARE important . Quintrex deep V tinnies are made to get you home .
Your V-nose punt is fine in a river - maybe that's the only place you fish .
Size is not as important as shape / design .
I use clamp on
wheels and a universal attachment that fits into my Treg hitch . Weighs a quarter of what a folding trailer does . OK if you are not travelling along public roads - usually just from your
camp down to the
water .
Cheers ,
Willie
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:10
Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:10
Willie,
Read my reply again, it is quite explanatory.
An Inland Waterway can only be a river or lake. (or a BIG puddle)
A V-Nose Punt (if you know what one is) is also suitable for inshore protected areas. It is not the wind that will affect the craft, but the amount of freeboard available.
Again I will state BRAND NAMES are NOT important.
Boat design, size and shape IS IMPORTANT depending on what use you require.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:55
Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:55
Gee Davoe ,
What's an inshore protected area - I went on the wild assumption that it was an estuary - how stupid of me . Obviously it's a small bay somewhere , with a wind break around it .
No Dave you are correct on this one , it's not the wind that will affect the craft - it's those waves that the wind makes . You know those lumpy things that make your V nose punt fly up in the air . Maybe you havent seen one yet , but they are out there .
Cheers ,
Willy .
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:57
Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:57
Sorry Sandman ,
Your not Davoe are you .
Willie
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