Small 12 VDC Connectors up to 30Amp.

Submitted: Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 19:44
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There aren’t a lot of choices for standard DC Connectors - people use the Cigarette Lighter or the Hella/DIN round connectors because that’s what’s on Fridges, Lights etc.

A very small and tough 12 volt 30 Amp connector suitable for all types of Fridges (including 3-way), Tire pumps, Radios (including VKS737 HF), Lights (up to 250 watts) and Chargers used by travellers, is now becoming widely available and reasonably priced. Anderson 30Amp Powerpole equivalents are available from -
www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=item&id=P7805 - Red $2.50
www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=item&id=P7806 - Black $2.50
www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PT4405. - Red+Black Pair $5.95
They are often available on eBay but make sure you get the 15, 30 or 45 Amp size (they all plug together)

An advantage of these connectors is that they are genderless, so you don’t need to buy both plugs and sockets and you can make up leads with a connector on each end they will always fit. It also allows a power supply to be connected directly to a battery to charge it.
The contacts are silver-plated so they are easy to solder, or you can crimp them if you have the correct tool. I use a small screwdriver to push at the back of the contact to seat it into the shell. Contacts can be removed from the shell for repairs.
These connectors will not come apart or lose contact pressure from vibration. They are rated for 10,000 connect disconnect cycles. For continuous loads when used in pairs, the manufacturer recommends that current should be kept under 20 Amps. For short pulses less than ½ second they are rated at 55Amp. The link below suggests that 100 Amps won’t damage them ! The maximum wire diameter is 2.6mm (5mmsq) and with insulation maximum 4.4mm.
I will be standardising on these for all 12 Volt Connectors for 5 Amps to 30 Amps. Obviously Red is +12volt and Black is Earth, but the keys on these connectors allow the two to be connected in many ways, so I suggest everyone follows what is becoming an International standard. If looking at the open face of two connectors side-by-side with the HOLE on the UNDERSIDE, put the RED on the RIGHT. If mounting on a panel, it is best to mount with the holes down to prevent grit and moisture collecting on the contacts.
www.w5fc.org/pse_docs/KNOWLEDGE/anderson_powerpole_instructions.htm
www.nsw.wicen.org.au/main.php?page=tech/powerpole

Different types of Anderson Connectors are also available for higher currents, but they become VERY expensive. Some people use the Anderson SB (these are NOT Powerpoles) 50 Amp connector with the single-piece half-round grey body - $18. These have the polarity marked on the body. Even though they are rated at 50 Amps, connector pins will only accept 8G cable. (Jaycar also sell a 120Amp Powerpole but these cost $38 for a Red+Black Pair).

For higher current applications (Inverters, small winches) up to 120 Amps I use the 9.5mm Spade Connectors as used for Fusible Links up to 120 Amps. Auto electricians sell Male and Female Nylon shells for these and Plug and Socket will cost about $6. I put the Red +12 lead near the rib/notch.

For small equipment, even the Anderson 30Amp Powerpoles are very big, so for small radios and lights that draw less than 5 Amps, I have standardised on the 2.1mm Coaxial plug with centre conductor as positive.
Plug $1.55 - www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PS0509
Panel Socket $2.65 - www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PS0522
Line Socket $2.45 - www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PS0526

For all connectors used outdoors with D.C., keep in mind that any moisture from rain or condensation will quickly cause corrosion and poor contact - I always apply Lanolin Oil (Lanotech, Lanoguard etc ) to the connectors (Vaseline is an alternative, WD40 soon evaporates.)

Here is a photo of my power board that has most of these connectors on it (I like to be prepared) to show how they compare in size.!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/MikeAus/Auto/PICT2566DCConnectors100k.jpg

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Reply By: Scubaroo - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:36

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:36
Those Anderson powerpoles are really neat - there's a few commercial products coming out of the states with them, all following the US ham radio standard. I've even seen powerpoint outlets for mounting on the wall of your house for 12V appliances in "solar homes" etc.

Tossing up whether to use those or the big fat grey one on my compressor - will probably go with these smaller ones.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:40

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:40
I was involved in racing R/C electric cars over the years and those motors can pull over 100amps very easily. We used an in-line plug called the "Deans Ultra Plug". They were a work of art. I use them for all my fridge connections and other electrics in the car. Cost $7.95 a set. They are very small, never come apart (spring loaded), and can carry heaps of current. We preferred them to the connectors mentioned above.

Deans Ultra plugDea

You can get them from the site above or from any hobby shop that deals with electric R/C stuff.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:46

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 20:46
My son tells me that Model Flight in Adelaide sell a Chinese copy of the Deans Ultra Plug called "Reach". Cost $3.95 a set.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: baza - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 21:20

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 21:20
I get mine from here now http://aircraft-world.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=33&cat=battery+%2D+WIRE+and+CONNECTORS . Only 2.28USD for delivery, always cheeses me off it costs less to ship from Japan than Sydney!!
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Reply By: porl - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 21:23

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 21:23
How do you rate the Clipsal two pin 24v plug that you can buy in DSE or other major electrical retailers. seens pretty robust to me and the look like they'd take a bucket of current. My Explorer came with these plugs so i figured may as well make the system standard for the small waeco as well.
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:37

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:37
I would say the same rating as ordinary wall plugs, eg. 10Amp as the pins are the same size. The weak point with these are the sockets, where the spring contacts may get weak and get hot if you push too much current through them. Also, make sure the contacts are clean, they are not self wiping as the silver plated ones in the Anderson connectors are. You can get quite a lousy connection @12V from dirty/tarnished clipsal plugs.
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Reply By: Mike DiD - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 07:17

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 07:17
Through another group, I have come across a much cheaper source of the 30 Amp Powerpoles - they are $2.50 for a PAIR.

He also has the 50 and 175 amp Anderson SB Connectors - single-piece gray shell.
The 50 amp ones are commonly used to connect to batteries in trailers. $5 EACH.

I will be putting the 175 amp ones on the starting and auxiliary batteries to join them in case the main goes flat and I need to use the Aux to start. I will also be using them for Jumper leads at this price. These will take wire up to 11mm copper diameter. They are rated to 400 amps for 16 seconds so will start a Diesel. $8.00 EACH.

The seller is andy_vk4ky@woodtech.net.au in Burpengary Queensland.
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