which oil??
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005 at 22:06
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Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast]
Giday all, just bought a .89 gq, t/d,it has been serviced for the last few yrs. with 'Agip' brand oil [mineral], the closest dis. to me is in brissy, so i,m goin to have to change the brand of oil.I,ve just read [on this site] that changing to syn. oils in 'older' motors CAN cause some seals to leak? I know from personal exp.[marine diesel ] changing brands in older stationary engines can cause an increase in oil consumption. But, I,m going to have to change, so advise/opinions on ''the good oil'' Thanks in advance ... Phil.
ps I stil have my 60 series,so I guess I have a foot in both camps!!
Reply By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005 at 23:14
Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005 at 23:14
Penrite is the best stuff mate. If you intend on doing the full oil change, use penzoil. When I picked up my truck the box was a little notchy etc. Penrite seems to have solved the problem. Mate of
mine used cheaper stuff (castrol I think) and he was not happy at all.
You happy with the new truck?
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 06:09
Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 06:09
Thanks Chris, so far so good, with coils &'parata']spell] seats, it rides HEAPS better than the 60,thats the main reason to change. I had 'picked up' on here that Penrite was a goer,[hpr]? so i,ll wait to see if there's any responce re. syn.or mineral .? I HOPE I have sold my
shop, than I can hitch up me camper & see how gooood these Nissan's really are[lol] Thanks mate, cya, PHIL..
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Reply By: Big Woody - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 06:41
Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 06:41
Hi Phil,
My last 2 vehicles I have changed over to Synforce - Cruiser Oil manufactured in Hervey Bay.
It is a synthetic oil and you will find it advertised somewhere on this website.
I will not consider anything else now. I had them send me the spec sheets on the product and compared it with other synthetic oils and Cruiser Oil is great value for money. I think the 20 litre drum cost me $110.
At a practical level my GQ was starting to become very rattly in the top end. After running this oil for the first 5000km I thought it was getting quieter. By the 10000km change all top end noise had disappeared.
Something else interesting was that the engine idle speed increased the first time I put it in and I had back the idle off a bit. Common sense says "less friction" when this happens.
Good luck with your choice.
Brett
T/D 80 Series Landcruiser
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 14:46
Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 14:46
At 12-off litres for a change (including 2 x filter capacities), 20 litres doesn't cover 2 full changes. Dang!...that's always a bummer.
I've always used Penrite HPR, but have considered CruiserOil for a while now. Quite frankly, good oils are good oils.... so I don't really care - as long as it IS a good oil I've got in the engine. Do you think that your machine would not have done the same thing if you had used another brand and changed filters, etc as per requirement? What other filters may you have changed that you haven't for a while before this excercise? Fuel?
Just interested - that's all :)
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Follow Up By: Big Woody - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 21:09
Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 21:09
Hi Chrispy,
I purchased the GQ with 150,000 on the clock and it was a bit noisy in the top end then. I changed oil and filters and it made no difference. I always use genuine filters and good quality mineral based oils but have never used synthetic before. I continued this process changing oil and both oil filters as
well as fuel filter every 5000 until I got to 180,000km which is when i first used Cruiser Oil. I used genuine oil and fuel filters again so the only difference was the oil. As mentioned above by 190,000km the top end was dead quiet. I sold the car at 200,000km and the motor was smooth and quiet as a new one.
Cheers,
Brett
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 22:23
Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 22:23
Thanks for that Brett
It's really not that much more than HPR, so I might just try and find it in
Sydney somewhere - hopefully Peps.
Cheers
Chris
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Reply By: bushy04 - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 08:03
Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 08:03
Hi Phill, Penrite is the best by far I have used it for about 15yrs in 4 different vechiles and I would not use any thing else.
If you do decide to go with Penrite buy the 20ltr or 60ltr drums and you will end up saving dought as
well.
I used to work in an engine reco
shop so I saw first hand the effects of all the different oils and the effects of not doing oil changes on time.
All food for thought?
All the best Bushy.
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Reply By: Stew53 - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 18:41
Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 18:41
Phil
Agip oil is packaged by Shell in Australia as far as I am aware, my story is that I have supervised the change-over of oil suppliers in two mines both with about 200 bits of equipment, and prior to every change over i.e.
Mobil for 3 years then
Caltex for 3 and now BP for 2 yrs, I would hear all the old wife’s tails about engines starting to use oil after the change and bearings failing etc. and to date have not had any engine or trans fails due to change of oil suppliers. We don’t flush or anything flash one day we will have
Caltex as the supplier then the next day BP turns up with a tanker and dumps 21,000ltrs of Global C6 on top of about 10,000ltrs of
Caltex Delo 400 and life goes on as normal.
The only time I have had lube problems is I’ve come across a neglected engine (years without an oil change) and tried to do the right thing and give it an oil change, the carbon has then been washed out after a couple of days and the engine has lost compression and requires rebuilding. So if your engine has had regular servicing i.e. every 10-20,000km you should not have any drama.
So my suggestion would be to find a local supplier BP,
Caltex,
Mobil, or Shell, a distributor with friendly helpful staff that has good stocks of all the oils and grease you need i.e. eng, trans and diffs., CV’s and uni.’s, look up the oil companies web site and go for the top of the range that is recommended for your vehicle, then when your on the road interstate or wherever there is a good chance you can pick up top up oils of the same grade etc at one of the big oil suppliers service stations, and you will know the range and price etc.
Stew
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