Kayaks

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 09:49
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I was at the 4x4 show in Melbourne at the weekend. I am looking at getting a kayak to strap to my roof so I can explore some of the waterways we come across on our travels.

I have done quite a bit of research on the sit-on top kayaks and have come to the opinion that the Feel Free brand is the best. They seem to be the best constructed boats and are very reasonably priced at $690-$799 for a single seater & $999 for a double seater.

Whats your opinion?
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:01

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:01
Hi Blue ,
Do you get a wet bottom in those sit-on kayaks ? If so why not buy a normal kayak . I took a f'glass one I made all through the Pilbara and it was great for fishing and sightseeing .
Cheers ,
Willie
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Reply By: blue1 - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:04

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:04
Only a little bit wet - they are really strong and pretty much indistructable.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:32

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:32
Hi Blue1,

I have a Viking Kayak that I have had for a few years now and am very happy with it. It has a waterproof 'locker" that you can put a mobile phone, car keys etc... in, has two water bottle holders and can be fitted with many extras like fishing rod holders. My particualr model is very stable, it is relatively wide and even the kids don't tip it too much. I paid around the $500 dollar mark with "seat" and paddle at the Perth 4X4 show a few years back. Click on my rig pic and you can see it on the roof in a few shots, but much more detail in the web link above.

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:48

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:48
Blue ,
Captain has it right about a seat . Your back starts to ache if you can never lean back and relax . Don't buy one of those open kayaks unless you can get a back rest with it , or it has a high moulded section behind the seat .
When you buy a kayak , make sure it is designed for flat water use . My kayak is a white water touring boat and is very hard to paddle in a straight line without experience . I had a big laugh when all the guys and gals on my recent Pilbara trip got in it and constantly went in circles .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:39

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:39
Blue ,
I just had a look at that Viking site . Those fishing kayaks are the bees knees . I like the one with the electric outboard . I love electric outboards and have one for my canadian - brilliant for fishing .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: blue1 - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:05

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:05
I have heard quite bad reports about the Vikings. I have been told they are really heavy and hard to padddle and the plastic does not seem to be of good quality.

Have you found this with yours Willie?

The Hobbie kayaks the other guy talks about are just too expensive.

Does anyone have a feelfree brand and can tell me if they like it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:18

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:18
Hi Blue1,

I guess you are asking about my Viking, not Willies, as he dosen't have a Viking! Anyway, mine is fairly heavy at ~19kg, but i can easily lift it on my roof by myself and carry it around. While its not light, I don't class it as heavy, but if comparing to competition kayaks then I suppose it is. As for the plastic, mine has copped a hiding being dragged on the beach etc... and has survived very well. There are the obvious scratches, but overall has a new appearance, not bad IMHO.

Bottom line is I am very happy with it, I am no kayaking expert, simply bought it to have fun with the kids and it fills that bill perfectly. Its very stable, I can get 3 on board (but just about sinking it now the kids have grown!) and plan to have it for years to come. I am considering getting a second one once the kids are old enough and would not hesitate to get the same again for my needs.

Cheers

Captain
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Reply By: flappa - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:54

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 10:54
I'm looking at one of those Kayak's made by Hobbie. The one's with the foot paddles that Rob Pax uses on his fishing show.

An exceptional idea in my view and allows hands free movement.

Not cheap though at nearly $2000.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 12:45

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 12:45
Flappa ,
How do you turn those when there is no momentum ?
Willie
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:21

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:21
Has a rudder (still doesn't help much if you aren't moving), but , you also still have a paddle like any kayak. It just means you can move without needing to use your hands , to chase that BIG fish.

Rob tagged a marlin out of his.

You can also buy a sail kit for them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:34

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:34
Flappa ,
I do a fair bit of fishing out of mine , but because of it's high internal volume , it's high out of the water and badly affected by the wind . You get into a posi for a cast and after that you have to put the rod down and paddle again to get back to where you were .
Maybe with the pedals you could hold yourself in position better .
When I catch decent fish , they tow me all over the place .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:59

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 13:59
I would think they might.

I haven't used one personally , but I have seen the couple of shows that Rob did using them , and read the reviews Rob and his mate did on the boats and they sound impressive.

This Viking with the lecky though sounds a neat piece of gear.

Personally, Im trying to get the old man to offload his Coleman Canoe with lecky outboard to me , he is a stubborn bugger though . . .wont give it up easily. I told him he doesn't need both the Canoe and the Quinnie Car Topper.

Mostly though , I would be fishing on my own , and thats where these Kayaks would be right at home.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 18:22

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 18:22
I've got a Hobie Tandem Mirage.

IT ROCKS!!!

We go for MILES in this damn thing. I can get up to 6 kmh on the GPS using the pedals.

Cost me $3200.00

Extra Rigging $400.00

Cheers

Wolfie
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Reply By: Gossy - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:19

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:19
I have a "scupper pro" sit on top Kayak. Have had it for years and done many trips including the Gordon River and Franklin River in Tasmania. Can see shots etc at http://www.gossadventures.com/tasmania.html
This kayak has been beaten around, smashed against rocks etc and is as good as new. Always look at the plastic models. One big rock and you will be repairing the fibreglass models.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:28

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:28
blue all kayaks are made for a particular purpose. Some for the sea, some for lakes, some for surf and others for white water or racing. You really should make sure you have decided the purpose as they don't really cross over as well as you may think.

Mine is a white water one on pic 2 but I use it anywhere as you will see.........
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 09:49

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 09:49
What John says makes good sense - also a lot of the guys recommending open kayaks live in warmer places than Melbourne .
Around Melbourne I would not want to have the water dripping into my crutch off the paddle .
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:01

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:01
willie, thanks for the endorsement in this case. In Melbourne in particular you are right too!!!! You don't know what you may catch off the Yarra river water, straight off the streets. You could find your self barred from the matrimonial bed, but our goodly State Premier wishes us to drink that water..............

You may need to use a condom to paddle the Yarra to avoid diseases if you have an open kayak there;-)
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Reply By: Longy - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 18:22

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 18:22
There are some really good kayaks out there. For me though I've got a wavedance encore. You can check them out www.wavedancekayaks.com.au.

$600 got the kayak, deluxe seat and a paddle

Direct from factory. So it pays too look around, combination at local shop was around $900 so shop around and see if you can go direct to the factory.

Cheers,
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Reply By: adventure1 - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 19:41

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 19:41
Hi, my friend has a feelfree nomad- i think its called. Ive paddled it on both flat and moving water and it handles really well. Ive put one on my Christmas wish list. Heres hopeing.
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Reply By: Steve - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 20:08

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 20:08
Agree with JohnR&Moses. You really need to decide where you want to take it. Personally, I'd never go for a sit-on-top a) freezing unless you've got good weather b) no waterproof storage c) aforementioned backrest problem. From what you say Blue, sounds like an estuary kayak would suit you best. You can paddle a good distance at a good speed. I say speed, not so you can be the first to finish, but if it's fast, it's easy to to get around in and less tiring. A great way to get around our waterways.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 20:24

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 20:24
Far far too much I got my sit on top kyak for $400 and I have no question as to its construction as it has come off the top 2wice and once was at highway speeds (looks immpressive)
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