SHU ROO.....

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 18:27
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I couldn't find any info regarding the Shu roo's in the archives. I'm trying to find out if they work or not.
My old cruiser hit a Roo near Nebo many years ago and it cost me a loty more to repair than what the Shu Roo costs ( the electronic version).
Would love to hear comments.

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Reply By: Exploder - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 19:20

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 19:20
Member Roachie has them on his Rig I think and apparently they work.
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I have got the Roo whistles and have never hit a roo and when I see them they just sit and look at you. Night runs in the 1 ½ years I have had them on, 5 Night runs between Perth and Kalgoorlie (600k’s) 2 down south Margaret river aria (300k’s), night run between Bridgetown and Denmark, 2 Night run Perth to Geraldton 400k’s. The thing to remember with these is that they do not work unless you are doing at-least 70kp/h.

I have seen and dodged roo’s but only off road when speed was less than 60, when travelling at speed I have never had them run out in front of me yet. I think they are one of those things where if you don’t see them then they are working as far as i are concerned.

The 2 previous car’s I had did not have these fitted, I dodged and beaked hard for many a roo and had one run into the side of the car.

I know a guy who is the OHS Co. at the KCGM mine in Kalgoorlie and has the whistles on his bike, he rides his motorbike back to Perth every 2 week’s at night and has never hit one, sees a lot of them but has never hit one and he’s doing like 140 at night on a bike (Death wish maybe?).

It’s a hard call with these things and I am still not sure about them, but the figures show they must be doing something.


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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 20:37

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 20:37
We were talking about these earlier in the week, albeit off topic. Still, a forum wordsearch should bring up ShuRoo. I did look at the website and they were just under $500. I'd just clicked on Roachie's rig-pic cos I thought I recognised the background in his pic - then noticed the vehicle specs including ShuRoo. Somebody told me about them a couple of months back and I got the impression they were a lot cheaper than the $485 (I think) quoted on the website. Can you expand on the "Roo whistles" Exploder??????
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 23:43

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 23:43
They cost something like $8 for a set of 2 I have got 4 on the bull bar 2 on the very top rail in the middle and 1 on the main bar structure on each side of the light’s. Got them at Auto 1 I think, There are a few people that make them, can’t remember which Brand I have but.

They just use the airflow to create a high frequency sound wave that sort of stuns the animal. They are effective for like 800metres I think, but you need to be travelling at a least 50+kp/h to generate enough airflow throe them, for them to work.

Like I have been driving along and seen 1 or 2 just off the road in the bush and they just sort of stick there head up and look but don’t move.

I was sold when I spoke to this guy who has been riding his Motorbike back from Kalgoorlie every 2-week’s at night for 2 years and has never hit one. He sees them all the time but they never come at him they just sit there or go in the other direction.
I put them on just for the hell of it, its $16 what have I got to lose sort of stuff and to date have not had any encounters, so far Fingers crossed.

I still don’t trust them But in the 4500k's of night runs i have done in 1 1/2 years have not hit one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 20:44

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 20:44
Just out of interest, I have a mate who drove to Cairns earlier this year. His old man told him how good the roo whistles were... He got a set and hit 2 roo's both times travelling at or above the posted 100k speed limit. Maybe the roo's are stupider in QLD...
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 21:31

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 21:31
There are some on E-bay and new ones for $350...... not bad if they work.

Reiner
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 21:47

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 21:47
My friend Noel in his 4.2 2000 GU wagon with a shoo roo on each side of his bar hit a 5ft roo at midnight three weeks ago just outside of Coffin Bay South Aust....At 90kmh...
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Reply By: Matthew w - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 21:57

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 21:57
Have had an electronic Shoo Roo for about five years and have never hit a roo since it was fitted .
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:49

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:49
I have never had a ShooRoo fitted and I have never hit a roo and there are plenty where I live
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Reply By: govo - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 22:26

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 22:26
When l lived in Emerald many years ago QR had them fitted to all 4wd's and cars...when the night shift was a bit slow we would drive around town at 2 am with the shoo roo on and get all the dogs barking...aaaaaahhhh the things we did for fun...lol.

On a lighter note..yes l do believe they work as we used to do a lot of night driveing out to Alpha and the roo's were always bad and the car drivers would hit one about once a month..this was a pretty good average concidering that QR was doing 2 to 3 trips a night out that way.

( QR..stands for Queensland Rail )
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Reply By: Dekard05 - Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 23:32

Saturday, Oct 29, 2005 at 23:32
Also had a shoo roo fitted for the last couple of years - never had a problem. Amazing how the thing keeps going - filled it with mud, water, dirt etc and can't seem to kill it! If you can pick up a cheap second hand one of ebay might be worth it.
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 00:14

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 00:14
I am leaning towards yes they work........ and then I find this :

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Reiner
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Reply By: P.G. (Tas) - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 09:06

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 09:06
Let's try this again, I couldn't get the hyperlink to work. I did the research some time ago and found out the Shu Roo doesn't work in the real world.

This link is a report on the effectiveness of ShuRoo, prepared by the University of Melbourne, Department of Zoology, for the NRMA, RACV, RTA, and Transport SA into the prevention of animal strikes using the ShuRoo.

http://www.bees.unsw.edu.au/school/researchstaff/ramp/shuroofinal.pdf

Hope this helps

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 09:59

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 09:59
well as Roachie said, "they must've been the deaf ones". lol. I wonder if they could do a study into whether any of the injured Roos were hard of hearing? Anecdotal evidence seems pretty convincing.
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Follow Up By: Sky Pilot - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 10:00

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 10:00
Well, that it then. It doesn't work and you have University tests to prove it.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:47

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:47
How’s this for a test.

I have the Roo Whistles and my mate does not.
In one night trip between Kalgoorlie and Perth last year he hit 3 roo’s
I did the same trip at night 5 different times last year and didn’t hit any and the few I did see just sat there as I drove parts.

Go figure.
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Follow Up By: Sky Pilot - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:51

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:51
The problem with that is it is not a scientifically sustainable result. There could be any number of reasons for him hitting 3 and you none. Attention paid to the road, speed, season, feed availabiity, age of roos, etc. The fact that the roos sat there and didn't do anything seems to indicate the whistle has no effect on them.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 12:32

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 12:32
That is what they are meant to do; they stop the roo’s from scattering as you approach.

I am not saying that they work but in the 1½ year I have had them on I have not had to avoid any. Compared to before where I would see them a lot more and need to break hard on a few occasions to miss them.

I payed $16 for the 4 so it’s not exactly a big out lay, if they work, good, if they are doing nothing and I have just bean lucky, well I am out $16.
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Follow Up By: ACDC - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 13:32

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 13:32
From reports i read they don't work.
I also believe the company that make them are anti bull bar i wonder why!
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Follow Up By: jduckmanton - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 19:53

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 19:53
I agree with Exploder, I have had the cheap plastic ones mounted on the front of my ute and for the last couple of years have not been close to hitting a roo, I have seen plenty but they stop & prop by the side of the road and watch as you go past, I have even seen them sitting in the middle of the road but with the use of driving lights I have plenty of time to see them and slow down...don't know if this is all due to good luck, but I will be fitting them to my new Rodeo tomorrow after the bull bar & driving lights have been fitted.

Cheers, John
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Follow Up By: Steve - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 20:23

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 20:23
(jduck) John, where d'you get those cheaper whistling ones from? I've Googled and can only find the $500 jobs.
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Follow Up By: jduckmanton - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 17:40

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 17:40
Hi Steve, I bought two pkts from the Hardware store in Whittlesea on my way home today for $11.50, (Whittlesea...approx 50 kms north of Melb, not sure where you are located), it is one of those old privately owned stores...but I am not sure where else you can get them.

Cheers, John
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Follow Up By: outbackmob - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 22:54

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 22:54
Supercheap does a version called Roo Shoo (instead of Shu Roo) I think - about $4 each or so!
Cheers
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Reply By: phil - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:57

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:57
A study for NRMA etc. a couple of years ago found that the Shoo-Roo had no effect on animal behaviour and that the sound emitted was way below ambient noise that i was inaudible beyond a few meters. They concluded that it was ineffective and that any apparent effect came from users being more aware of the risks.

Another study be an insurance company found no difference in strike rates on a fleet of vehicles some of which had a Shoo Roo and some not.

Another insurance study found no difference in claims for animal strikes.

Phil I
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Reply By: MartyB - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 12:16

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 12:16
A friend had the cheap plastic ones.
Said they seemed to work OK, except when were full of bugs.
Obviously when they get a bug wedged into them they won't wistle.

Marty.

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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 12:18

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 12:18
Hi,

We placed them on all of our country ambulance vehicles a while back as we were getting a lot of damage from roo strikes. While they aren't bulletproof I can tell you that the damage from roo strikes has dropped off by around 75%.
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Reply By: Waynepd (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 20:30

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 20:30
Hi Reiner,
My GU was a country car from around Tamworth way when I bought it 2nd hand. It came with an Electronic Shu-Roo. I have seen plenty of roos and they all tend to run away from me when we meet, but if it is natural or because of the Shu-Roo i couldn't tell you.

I do know it plays havoc with the AM CB radio, and if that is the noise they hear I imagine it would make them run away. I don't know that I would spend money to buy one but I am glad it came with the car and its nice to have it there as a bit more security. I don't think you should completely rely on it anyway, its just a little insurance.
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Reply By: MATT.D(WA) - Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 23:56

Sunday, Oct 30, 2005 at 23:56
We had the plastic ones on a truck a few years ago and noticed that the roos seemed to avoid us. The main problem was that the cattle also seemed scared by the noise and tended to scatter. Its a personal preference but if you travel where there is much cattle then I would choose to hit a roo or to rather than hit a cow.
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:58

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:58
Thanks for all the feedback , University studies don't have to get it right....... plenty of proof in the past in all sorts of researches.
I think I get some cheap ones and see how they work. After all the rain we had here the roos should stay away from the road for a while anyway.
Thanks again
cheers
Reiner
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Reply By: P.G. (Tas) - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 09:24

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 09:24
After I read the university report, I went straight to Bob Conely at ShuRoo to get his response and opinions.

This is the email I send.

Bob. I would appreciate more information about the new ShuRoo and the differences between now and the model tested.

Regards,

Peter

And the Response ....

OK Peter - now you will see why this wouldn't have fitted into the eBay answer box.
The operation of the Shu Roo depends on the "emergency sound sensing network" that is an important part of the brain in every animal and bird. This sensing network DOES NOT work when animals are in their "home territory". The key words in the "test" results that you suggested that I read are static and dynamic testing and captive animals. These tests were performed on kangaroos in a fenced-in area where they live. As they were in their "home", their brains automatically turn off the sensing network which I am referring to. When they venture out of their "home" this network is automatically activated. As the tests were not done on random kangaroos in the wild, they are not valid at all.
When David Gore invented the Shu Roo over 20 years ago, it was thoroughly tested prior to initial marketing and all of the tests returned 100% positive results. If they hadn't, the units never would have been put into production. The design had been upgraded several times over the 20 years and the current model is an upgrade of the original MK III which apparently was used it the referred test. The speaker cases were redesigned for more effective coverage and the central processing units were upgraded to produce a more effective sound. In actuallity, the Shu Roo creates a sort of a "migrane headache" when an animal or bird is in or enters the "sound pattern" and this is why they move so fast to get out of the sound pattern area.
Major Australian long distance trucking companies have been using Shu Roos for many years and have saved many thousands of dollars in repair bills and down time due to the effectiveness of the Shu Roo. Take the time to read the testimonials in my website - www.shuroo.net.
I appreciate your interest and would be happy to sell you one if you are interested.
Best regards,
Bob Conley
SHUROO

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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 13:37

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 13:37
there are many studies that show the ineffectiveness of electronic scare devices - whether it be for kangaroos, birds, rodents or insects... Testimonials don't count for much; nor does the statement that the manufacturer wouldn't have made the product if it didn't work... Hiclone anyone?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 14:19

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 14:19
Peter,
A few blokes have mentioned my name on this post, so I thought I'd better respond at some point and this reply of yours seems like the most appropriate place for me to add my 2 cents worth.

I've had my ShuRoo for about 8 years and moved it from my GQ to the GU back in 2000.

I don't do as much night driving as a lot of blokes, but do my fair share in any case.

I did hit a roo earlier this year, up near Spear Creek (just out of Port Augusta). I saw him coming in at me from the side.....he was travelling in the same general direction as I was, but on a converging (collision) course. It was like it was happening in slow motion....I kept thinking that any second he was gunna wise-up and give way to my 4.5tonne of truck and camper. I could see him quite clearly with the aid of my side-mounted little spotties. He was smacked by the right-side wing on my bullbar and is still sleeping it off to this very day!!

Up until that moment, I was convinced that the Shuroo worked very well. Indeed on the morning in February 1999 when I drove the back road from Cooma to Batemans bay (via Braidwood), to collect the Ultimate Camper, I left around 4.30am.....there were shizen-loads of roos all along one stretch of the track and they all seemed to prop, prick-up their ears and either stay still or gently move off and away from the road. I often equate it to the way we'd react if we were walking down the highway and heard a siren approaching......we'd probably take note, maybe move a couple of steps further off the road, turn and have a glance at what was coming etc etc....we wouldn't necessarily be scared-off and do a runner into the bush etc (unless we'd just robbed a bank!!! hehehe).

On reflection of the Spear Creek event, I guess it could be argued that the roo was out of the field of effective hearing of the zziitt, zziitt, zziitt that the Shuroo was making.....they do have their limitations as far as directionality is concerned. Given that this little bloke was heading in towards me from roughly the same direction and at about a 45o angle, it is possible that he didn't pick up the sound.

I'm keeping mine on the bullbar for the time being...

Cheers

Roachie
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Reply By: bigjon - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 11:27

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 11:27
They work on elephants as well.
In the past 10 years that I've had one fitted I have not hit or even seen an elephant.
I'm doing a study on it's effectiveness on tigers next.
Cheers, Jon
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Follow Up By: flappa - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 11:32

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 11:32
LMAO . . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 12:07

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 12:07
If you find one that works on Cops I buy two ........and a spare.

Reiner
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Reply By: John L G - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 14:05

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 14:05
Reiner

From experience I fitted two of these devices to the front of my 75 series prior to a trip to Darwin by the highway and back down through the dirt via the CSR to Perth

It wass interesting to note that in thirty years of driving, a lot of which has been in the outback, I went from a zero strike rate to 11 roos in the one trip once I had fitted the shoo roos.

So in my humble opinion they should change the name "Shoo" ot "attracta".

Said a lot for the steel bull bar on the front tho.

John G

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Reply By: Sky Pilot - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 19:48

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 19:48
This argument is never going to come to a logical conclusion in the same way as Engel Vs Waeco, Toyota Vs Nissan, Ford Vs Holden can never be resolved to show which is the better. Obviously, if you've spent your 'hard earned' to purchase the thing, the last thing you're gonna say is it doesn't work, or the other brand is better than mine - God, do you want to look like a complete idiot? The people who paid for them will praise them, those that haven't will tell you they don't work. The only way to really find out one way or t'other is to spend the bickies and buy one. Then, of course, you'll be able to tell us all how well they work. :-)
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Reply By: Steve - Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 20:04

Monday, Oct 31, 2005 at 20:04
well for $11 for 2 x packets - you don't need to be an idiot.....and.....are there other brands? I can't even find a cheapo ShuRoo. But Cruisers are the best.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 17:18

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 17:18
I have had a pair of the cheap plastic stick-on "whistles" for just under 6 years.
Apparently each one emits a different sound frequency, inaudible to humans.

So they are not that good for pedestrians, but in my opinion they do provide an audible warning to a variety of animals and birds.

Have quite often noticed a dog being alerted to the vehicle just in suburbia.

Also two eagles "heard" me approaching them along the Stuart Highway. Was it the Air Whistles? don't know, don't care. They cost me about $4.00 when I bought them from Rocca Bros. (now Super Cheap)

Yes, you need to check them now and again and wash them if necessary. But as they slide out of the bases which are stuck to the "Roo Bar", this is quite simple.

Do they work? Haven't hit anything yet. (touch wood)
Bill


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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 18:07

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 18:07
Dont know about the effectivness of the electronic version ,, suspect that a stereo with big woofers playing the doof doof doof "music" as in the rice burners getting around would scare any roo back to the padock ,,

that said I have had the elcheapo roo whistles on my m/cycles and never hit a roo ,,have had them on all my cars and 4x4 bar 1 , hit 3 x roo + 1 emu , had plastic " Smart Bar " so no damage to vehicle , at a cost of $3 or $4 a pair who cares ,cheap insurance for the price of a beer.
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