Coleman Hot Water: Filtering Water???

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:00
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The instructions with this thing say to use only "potable drinking water" and not to use water from a lake, dam or river.

I'm trying to find a way to fit a low resistance filter to the intake to filter out sediment without having a dramatic effect on flow rate.

Any ideas or has someone found another metod to easily filter the water?

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:05

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:05
Hi Jimbo

I think Al is too, I think he has an idea about it as well, I am sure he has a filter in mind, he's flat chat at the moment with converting the GU and won't be back in the Bluescope office til Tues, but I reckon if you call him then he'd be happy to chat...

Lyn
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:25

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:25
I spoke to the little bloke yesterday and he is talking about pumping it from the river through a filter and then pouring it into the collapsible container. Too much work for my liking. As you know I'm getting lazier as I get older and am trying to do everything the easy way LOL.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: brett - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:22

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:22
If the water in the river is that dirty then it's probably not worth using. Some sort of coarse gauze filter would be ok to filter out any big bits and wouldn't affect flow, but dirty mirky water is generally lot's of very fine particles, not sure if you could successfully filter this type of stuff witouth clogging up a very fine filter.
I've used mine in clean river water a few times, I was concerned on Colemans instructions to only use potable water so I rang them. Person I spoke to says the only reason they say that is because the unit is also meant to heat water for drinks, so if you use contaminated river water it may contaminate your drinking water, river water will not affect the function of the unit at all. I only use mine for showers and washing up, not for drinking so I have no concerns with non potable water. Only thing is if I run bore or river water through it I rinse it out with freshwater after just to clean it out.
I used mine on the weekend with a 12V pressure pump on my camper and optional mains water adapter you can get, worked a treat, if your close enough to a river you can run a hose to it and have continuous water. We weren't that close so had to fill up jerry cans, 25L showered me and 2 kids with water left. If you have plenty of water and like a bit more pressure the mains adapter can be adjusted, it's just a solenoid and adjustable regulator inside. I've drilled a hole in the top of mine so depending on how much water i want to use I can adjust the flow with a screwdriver. Another advantage is the solenoid draw's a 1/4 the power of the pump so no need to recharge the coleman battery and also the pump doesn't need to prime, instant pressure.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:27

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:27
Thanks Brett,

That being the case I won't bother to filter it. I only intend to use it for washing puposes as well. Problem solved.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: Shaker - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:44

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:44
Put water in a bucket, sprinkle Alum across the surface, wait a little while ....... hey presto! crystal clear water.
We carry alum with us all the time for this purpose.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:22

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:22
Excuse my ignorance Shaker, but what is Alum, what does it do and where do you get it?

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 15:07

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 15:07
Jimbo, alum is a floculant in powder form, used in the pool industry or fro clearing dams etc., it can be bought from pool supplies, chemists or stock food supplies. The latter being the cheapest.
The problem with trying to use a Coleman or Primus HWS with a filter is obviously reduced water flow.
Alum is the go, certainly for showering & washing dishes or clothes.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 15:19

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 15:19
Thanks Shaker
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Reply By: Nudenut - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 13:36

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 13:36
ever tried swmbo's stockings...filled with cotton wool over the suction works....
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 17:51

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 17:51
I guess you have to take the other half out of the stockings first!!!????
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Reply By: Member - Mike H (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 13:56

Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 13:56
If you want clean water and only have murky dam or river water then fill one or more buckets and sprinkle cold ashes from your campfire onto the top.
Let it sit and next morning the water will be crystal clear with all the mud, dirt and ashes sitting at the bottom.
Just slowly pour off the water without disturbing the sediments.
If you then boil the water you can even drink it.
Cheers
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:58

Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:58
I agree with Brett. Filtering is only one of the several methods employed to make "dirty" water potable.

Potable water treatment is the treatment of water to ensure that it is suitable for human consumption and use. The degree and components of the treatment process depends largely on the quality of the raw water. However, a typical water treatment plant includes the following processes:
· Coagulation/flocculation;
· Sedimentation;
· Filtration;
· Disinfection; and
· Water correction.

For your average river/creek water which is probably not highly polluted, the use of Alum definately has its merits.

I took Alum on our last trip to the Cooper Creek, but the flocking process was so slow, that we just used the water as was for washing and used our "brought-in" supplies for drinking, coffee making and cooking.

Bill


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Reply By: Redback - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:30

Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:30
Have you tried one of these available at any plumbing supplier.

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