Some questions regarding the gibb river road
Submitted: Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 08:51
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Miki
Hello all,
My friends and I are going to be in
Broome at the 20.12 (05).
(We will be tourists in Australia from far far away)
I really really really want to experience some 4WD in the
Gibb river or maybe nearby.
I was told that in that season its not very recommended.
My questions are:
1. Is this that bad to drive some roads at the
Kimberley (Gibb) in that season,
did someone has done this before, I guess there must be some roads open, maybe even for a short while.
2. If the question to the previous answer is no (!!!), I'd like to know if there some attractions in that area that can be done by foot treks and if its possible to be done in that season.
Last one:
Our route of the trip is
Perth -
Broome -
Darwin -
Cairns, its a hell of distance, so maybe there are other
places to do some 4WD in December, can someone recommend ...?
Any comment will be welcomed :)
Thanks in advance,
Miki
Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:18
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:18
Not only is it a hell of a distance but its a hell of a time to be there. Literally. Have you considered the heat and humidity ? The rainfall ? I know I'm sounding negative but the fact is that for most of us its not a great time to travel.
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Follow Up By: Miki - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:27
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:27
Hey Footloose, thanks for commenting my questions.
We took into consideration the hit, humidity and rain.
We are used to trek a lot in various weather conditions, we have no problem with that.
Our main problem is the road conditions, namely, we really wanted to experience what is so called "wild Australia" and we were told that the
Gibb river is a good place to start.
So, what I need to know that some Gibb roads or some other treks can be done with 4WD in spite of the weather.
Thanks,
Miki
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Follow Up By: Pluto - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:13
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:13
Usually the
Gibb River Rd is closed during the wet season (ie. Summer). Without local knowledge, remote travel in Northern Australian regions, during the wet, can be hazardous. Even dangerous.
I would recommend you conduct your 4WD experience further south. There are plenty of good areas to explore by 4WD around
Perth. Have a look at the trips listed here. The
Wedge Island trip is a personal favorite.
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:34
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:34
Hi Miki. I'm not an expert on that region at that time of the year, but have been there during the start of that season. Yes the GRR will definately be a bit umm....wild ...at that time of the year. My only concern is your safety and comfort, if you're too ambitious you could come to grief.
Just hang around this
forum and I'm sure that someone from that area will give you expert advice.
Have a great holiday.
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Reply By: Member - John - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:26
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:26
Miki, May I ask how you plan to get from
Perth-
Broome-
Darwin etc?
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Follow Up By: Miki - Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:24
Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:24
Hey John,
Our intention is to take a local flight to
Broome from
Perth and then as you can see from the replies I got here, we'll have to drive along main roads to
Darwin (originally we were suppose to do the GRR from
Derby to
Kununurra).
From
Darwin to
Cairns, it isn't decided upon yet, but maybe we'll drive.
(I know that is a lot to drive, but if there are some beautiful sites to see on the roads then its OK, if not, we'll take a local flight).
Thanks,
Miki
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Reply By: Browser - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:26
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:26
Hi Miki,
I just got back from a trip along the
Gibb River Road in early October. It was very hot (around 38-40 degrees celsius) and most of the stations and
camping sites were preparing to shut down (or in some cases were already shut) for the wet season. Once the wet arrives the rivers will be impassable and you will have no hope of getting from
Derby to
Kununurra. December is just not the right time of year to be doing this trip.
If you must go in then I suggest go part of the way in from
Derby to say Winjana Gorge and
Tunnel Creek and then back track to
Derby (or alternatively carry on to Fittzroy Crossing) and travel via the Great Northern Highway.
This link should take you to a site that has plenty of good information
Gibb River Road
Also strongly suggest you purchase a Gibber River Road Guide from the
Derby Visitors Centre.
regards and good luck with your adventure.
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Reply By: Notso - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:15
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:15
We just spent 5 months working in the Kimberly over the wet season. It was murderously hot, 48 to 50 degrees celcius most of the time and humid. The
gibb river road is closed most of the season as is the road to
tunnel creek etc.
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Reply By: chips - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:28
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:28
hi Miki
welcome to the west
I havent done the Gibb as yet but plan to in the next year or so. The one thing that know one has said so far is that to treck any where in the north on foot at that time of the year is nearly always FATAL.
Yes there are plenty of sights to see just short distances from
Perth someone sugested
Wedge Island as a very regular tripper to Wedge I coudnt agree more some of the best beaches in Aus.
If you must go North at that time of the year stick to main roads.
Hope you enjoy your holls were in west
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Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:51
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 13:51
Hi Miki,
If you are planning to travel by road to the Northern section aof WA and Australia, during the summer months, make sure you have plenty of spare time.
You are likely to encounter the following :
Cyclones
Flooded roads
Closed roads
Flooded river crossings
Torrential rain storms
Likely to get bogged when off the bitumn roads
Etc. etc.
All the above are likely between the months of December to as late as May
OK to fly to
Broome and stay there or drive along the bitumn roads but be prepared to wait or turn back when the road is flooded
Hope this helps
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Kimberly Kruiser (WA) - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 15:29
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 15:29
Miki
The
Gibb River Road will be closed in December/Jan/Feb and possibly March and even April depending on the wet. There are fines for attempting to enter upon closed roads for very good reason. The damage done to heavilly rain drenched roads/ impassable floodways and rivers, not to mention life threatening conditions of heat/humidity and mother nature in general.
Even travelling by bitumen is not guaranteed at that time year with flooded crossings etc. The
Victoria River is known to cut any road travel east/west across the top end for many weeks at a time during the wet.
Some 4 wheel driving south of the 26th paralel may be more advisable at that time of the year.
Cheers
Wal
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 18:31
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 18:31
Yep - from my readings Miki, the above is very sound advice - and just remember that even though you can opt to stay on sealed roads and still see plenty, you can't
camp on that selaed road ! The weather up there is so dynamic at times that you might get blown off the sealed road, or bogged when you pull off to
camp, or may need to keep driving into the night because it won't stop pouring ! The dry season is for us tourists - the wet season gives the locals a rest.
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Reply By: Dog (NT) - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 18:49
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 18:49
I recently was in the Kimberlies (
well, the Bungle Bungles).
Its an amazing part of the world, absolutely awe inspiring, but I didn't have a good time. It was HOT. I struggled to sleep at night, and in the mornings the flies were so bad I could hardly eat.
During the day it wasn't so bad, it was just plain hot, but in the mornings it was worse, the humidity was high, and the heat started before the sun even came up. There is no relief at night.
I'm from the NT, and I found it hot and oppressive. This was the first couple of weeks in November. Now that some rain has started falling, its only going to be worse.
The truth is, its not an enjoyable time of year. There isn't even any decent 4wding to be done. Its either bitumen or bogged, not much in between once the rain starts!
As I said, its an awesome part of the world, and I could do a dozen trips there and not feel like I'd even started to see it, but this is the wrong time of year to go there.
Dog
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Reply By: Member - Kimberly Kruiser (WA) - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 20:35
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 20:35
Miki
Further to my previous post can I touch on your second question about trekking off on foot. I really don't think so mate.
I live/work and play in this environment and a lot of the time it is just plain bloody hot and uncomfortable and thats being aclimatized to it.
Where I work have recently become obsessed with our hydration levels whilst performing certain tasks and have undertaken numerous tests to monitor our levels. The conclusion we are getting from that study is that even a fully hydrated person after an hour in the sun performing moderate tasks and consuming about a litre of
water in that hour is becoming dehydrated. Once your out in that environment for any length of time, it's virtually impossible to keep the
water intake up to the required level.
Definately not a touring holiday destination at this time of year.
Cheers
Wal
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Reply By: Miki - Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:18
Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:18
Hello All,
Well, I guess there is no hope to trek the GRR in December.
I think I got the picture, .... No, we dont have a death wish :-)
We'll take Pluto's and Chip's idea to do some 4WD near
Perth even though, I guess that its not as adventurous as the GRR, but it will have to do.
Nevertheless, we'll go to
Broome (by local flight) and wait / wish for an opportunity for a good day to do even a day ride in the area.
Afterwards, we'll stick to the main roads toward
Darwin.
From there we'll drive to the
Kakadu and
Litchfield National Parks. I hope that things are not as bad as the GRR.
Thanks a lot to everyone.
The information I got here is priceless.
No worries :-)
Miki
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:42
Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:42
Hi Miki,
I agree with all the other advice given to you by the others. There are many adventurous Europeans, in particular Germans, who love exploring our big wide land, and Aussies find them in all sorts of out of the way
places that not many of us travel. Some of them sadly get into real trouble, and I think you're unlikely to be one of those now!!
I took a tour through
Kakadu at the end of January a couple of years ago, leaving
Darwin in a 4WD tour truck. I went with Adventure Tours. I missed out on
Litchfield, but my suggestion would be to check out these options once you get to
Darwin. I know you want to do a self drive, as I do mostly, but sometimes it turns a risky trip into an enjoyable one if you're with a good tour party with a smart leader that knows where the crocodiles are and doesn't set up
camp nearby. :-)
Wet season is great to see the country when it's - wet. Very wet. A different wet to Europe I'd be guessing :-)
Enjoy your travels.
Tim
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Reply By: Big Woody - Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 07:20
Tuesday, Nov 29, 2005 at 07:20
Well done Gentlemen,
Your input into this thread may very
well have prevented us from reading about these guys in the paper. At least they were willing to listen to local knowledge. Sadly some will go ahead with their plans anyway and pay the ultimate price.
Brett
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Reply By: Steve - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 22:19