Wiring Camper Trailer to Car
Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 16:29
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Alan S (WA)
Just bought a trailer that has wiring for a battery and Fridge. The Previous owner simply used the Aux wire of the trailer plug to connect the trailer battery to the car.
Charging and power usage was restricted by the capacity of the normal 7 pin plug. So I plan to run 8mm cable from my second battery to a 50 amp Anderson plug then to the trailer battery.
I have a ARB dual battery solenoid that I used before upgrading to the smart solenoid so I was going to mount this under the bonnet near the second battery and connect the + wire to the anderson plug through it. Then connect the activation terminals to a Dash mounted switch so that I could isolate the anderson plug at the rear when not in use.
Is there a better way of doing this? , and should I take any measures to prevent any voltage spikes etc from doing any damage to the vehicle electronics? Or would this set up keep them isolated from main vehicle electrics?
Alan
Reply By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 16:59
Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 16:59
You will be ok with the set up as you describe in the vehicle.
However I would seriously consider the twin charge unit as made by Arid, this will then charge the batt in the trailor to it's full capacity then pulse it.
The Fridge in the trailor needs the 12v pickup before the Twin charge unit.
I have used these chargers in two vans and highly reccomend them.
Have a look at,
www.12volt.com.au
or
www.allabout12volt.com
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 18:18
Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 18:18
Thanks,
So on the incoming wire from the car i would breakout the line to the fridge and the continue the wire to the arid charger.
when the car is disconnected the fridge would draw power back from the charger circuit.
The prev owner set it up to recharge from 240 volt with ELB setup and power points, so there is already a charger similar to the arid but with 240 volt input.
This means i should be able keep it charged on either 240v or 12 v at all times.
Alan
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:01
Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:01
Alan, I was assuming that the fridg was a three way job thus when stationary it would run on gas.
The way I have suggested when the vehicle is not connected there would be NO 12v power to the fridg from the vehicle. Leaving the camper batt for light and aux use only.
If you use a compressor type fridg (Weaco, Engel) then this would be best in the vehicle.
The Arid charger is a little exy but your battery will have a lot longer lifespan , my current one is almost 5 yrs old and still in top form.
If yours is a compressor type fridg that is installed in the camper then it connects to the camper batt.
However as most use around 3 amp hrs the batt does not last that long before charging is needed usually around 24 hrs depending on temp and batt size.
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:54
Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:54
It is a compressor type fridge, i already have a 60lt in the vehicle and there is a 40 lt inthe trailer. One will be for drinks and one for food, olbviously the missus and myslef have differing opinions as to which one for drinks.
The longest i have run the fridge in the car without starting the car was 1-1/2 days and it was still running okay. As long as i get at least a day out the trailer battery i will be happy, as at night i can still plug the car back into the trailer.
ALan
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Reply By: Banjo 1 - Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 20:43
Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 20:43
Being electronically challenged, I use simplicity as my great ally ! I have a rotronics controller hooking the main battery to the aux. I then parallel the aux battery down to an anderson plug at the rear (there is a curcuit breaker in that + wire of course), via your aforementioned heavy wire. The trailer came with an Anderson to connect on to the car. So after I start up, the alternator charges both the aux and the trailer battery when it pops over. Its not verr "smart" but its been working ok to date. There are, as you will see in the posts, smarter methods for achieving optimum charging of all 3 batteries, but they are too hard for me to get the gist of. I'm going toward a small gennie in the near future, so that will fix any top-ups required.
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Reply By: snailbait (Blue mntns) - Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 21:07
Wednesday, Dec 07, 2005 at 21:07
hi guys
in answer to your problem i have put the fridge in the vehicle not in the trailer this means you go on trips while leaving the trailer or camper and the vehicle charges the batery that runs the fridg
snailbait
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:57
Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:57
I already have a fridge in the car, so this is a second fridge. I have a wife that loves cooking so who am i to restrict her activities by not carrying enough dififernt types of food (and drink)
Thanks
Alan
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Reply By: snailbait (Blue mntns) - Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 20:10
Thursday, Dec 08, 2005 at 20:10
hi alan s wa
i have purchased a generater in
Sydney whis is a two stroke .85 kw for $149 .00
This does 240 volt for .85 kw or 12 volt
but i Found another brand at bunnings for $99.95 which does the same thing
this is deemed at 65 decible but TWO stroke not 4 stroke Thes are throuw away items but they are cheap
snailbate
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 03:50
Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 03:50
Alan, forget the trailer plug connection and the dash switch idea, keep it simple and use the Anderson plug, but use THICKER cable to the Aux battery in the Trailer, the same size as used between the dual batteries used in the car battery system, yes, use actual battery cable, to avoid voltage drop at the rear battery!!
Connect the new trailer battery direct to the SECOND battery under the bonnet, both (+) and also (-) cables. The SECOND battery will presently be isolated from the Starter battery by your battery "smart" isolater and PLEASE use a decent FUSE between the trailer battery and the SECOND battery.
(Quote) I have a ARB dual battery solenoid that I used before upgrading to the SMART solenoid so I was going to mount this under the bonnet near the "SECOND BATTERY" and connect the + wire to the anderson plug through it.(end quote)
Is the smart solenoid capable of the job asked of it?
NOTE;
Use only ONE QUALITY battery isolator system, one that's rated as suitable for the job, use the SAME size and type of battery in the trailer as the SECOND battery, as they will in effect be actually wired in parallel (if I understand your post)
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:08
Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:08
Mainey
The dual battery solenoid that i plan to install is rated at something like 140amp, it was originally used as a battery isolator in a previous vehicle, and was activated when the ignition turned on. So the ignition sensing wire will be attached to a switch to activate it.
The reason i want to install this is i do not like the idea of having the anderson plug at the rear of the vehile permanently live when not in use. For safety i would like to be able to isolate it.
I thought i indicated in my orignal post that i would be connecting direct to the second battery, this way the smart solenoid would be isolating trailer battery and car 2nd battery from the starting battery.
Alan
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 17:28
Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 17:28
Alan, as I said, keep it simple, less parts less problems !!
Use the Anderson plug, if your not happy about it being live then use a switching mechanism or if you feel strongly about it, your solenoid.
BUT - use THICKER cable to the Aux battery in the Trailer!!
You did indicate in your orignal post that you would be connecting direct to the second battery, you believed the solenoid would be isolating the trailer battery from the 2nd battery which MAY or it may NOT, be isolated from the starting battery - as some solenoids ONLY isolate when the battery voltage is low, NOT when the ignition is turned off.
So in that case the Anderson plug would still be active even with the ignition off, thus defeating your purpose of using it. Just a thought.
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