how long does a diesel motor last

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 13:04
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Hi all, welcome back from your holidays if you were lucky enough to have one, would like to know what sort of klms could I expect to get out of a 2.8 diesel motor in my hilux, do you still get 500k as people once said for a diesel. I know these arn't a great motor especially power wise but I am debating wether to upgrade to the next model 97 on wards (3 litre turbo)myn is an 89 d/cab sr5 with 280klms on it now still going like a dream doesnt use any oil between changes mind you I change it every 3k plus filter since new, doesnt blow any blue smoke but Im not real keen on the independent front ends as mine is solid diff (leaf springs). Should I not worry or sell it while the goings good. I also like the cost of repairing things on mine no computers to go wrong but would really like a bit more grunt. (actually a sh@t load more than the 2.8 has) am willing to pay the dollars but would like to hold off for another year or too hence my question about how long they will go for. It has had all major services done when due very well looked after vehicle but does get used for what it's meant for. Thankyou Regards Vitara
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 13:19

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 13:19
Keep servicing it at least every 5000klm and whack a turbo on it....should do another 280000klm easy.
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Reply By: myfourby - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 14:51

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 14:51
I have the same problem as yourself!! - Mine is a 95 2.8D - have been changing oil & filter at 5000k's since 115,000k's. It's at 250,000k's now and is using about 1.5litres between oil changes and is a bit smoky - but not noticeably blue. I'm a worried about the motor going as well but am not in a good position to upgrade right now - so I'll be waiting another couple of years at least - hope she lasts!

When upgrade time arrives, I have been considering my options and have decided to avoid another Hilux at all costs - as I simply believe anything with IFS will not be tough enough long term. I want to keep the simplicity and the reliability - and I want it to be tough with some grunt where its needed. The only real option for me as I see it is a Nissan TD UTE - or Toyota 78 series TD. I'd love to have coils all round and a simple easy to work on vehicle - such a vehicle doesn't exist. The Nissan is too complex, and the Toyota is leaf rear. - I think I’ll be opting for a 78 Series - rough and basic with enough grunt - - I'll deal with the rough ride of the leaf rear - that’s all I need.

I really don't know how long your motor will last - but I haven't heard too many horror stories about the 2.8D - unless oil change intervals have been abused - but this doesn't appear to be a problem in your case. - I say -Drive on and wait another year or two to see if a real 4WD appears on the new vehicle market. Although - judging by the city manure that has been produced from the manufacturers in the recent past - I wouldn't hold your breath.

-myfourby
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Reply By: desert - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 16:10

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 16:10
The old "how long is a piece of rope" question. Tell me, if the answer was; it will blow up at 281,000 km, would you sell it tomorrow?
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 16:51

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 16:51
Hi All!
My brother has an old petrol Hilux it has 374,000ks on the clock and it is perfect. This is not usual for a petrol engine but he has had a by-pass filter on it from 100,000 ks. he changes the oil, filter and Bypass filter every 20,000ks. When he dumps the oil , it is still honey coloured. If you remove the particles that cause wear is should last forever or until something else fatigues!!~~ Michael
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 17:40

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 17:40
So, like... what's this bypass filter thing then?

Is there a URL we can visit?

Cheers

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 17:46

Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 17:46
Wolfie,
There are few different systems......I have the AMSOIL set-up and have banged-on about it a few times in the past.
Check out:

amsoil
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Reply By: Jim-Bob - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 17:14

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 17:14
G'day vitara
I had a 1989 2.8D 4runner since new and when it had 405,000klms on it I put a turbo on it (something I should have done years earlier).
I sold it last year with 519,000klms and bought a 2001 3.0TD gxl Praydo, at times I want my 4runner back.
Dont worry too much about i.f.s, I towed my C/T up the OLT to the tip and across the Frenchman's track and Pascoe to Chili beach without any problems at all.
Unless you abuse them you practically can't kill them with a big stick.

Safe travells
Jim-Bob.
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 19:02

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 19:02
Sounds like you look after it so spend a few dollars on it and use it, cost of trading it on new one would be huge so wear the old one out.
Wack a new turbo on it then have injectors do up as worn injectors injecting to much fuel will be its downfall and have fuel system tuned to match turbo and you will be shocked at the difference it will make.
Worst case cenario, motor dies, then put new motor in it , no big deal.

Enjoy you old unit it has and will serve you well.

Cheers pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:08

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:08
How would I know if injecters need doing at the moment any signs to look for. It doesnt blow any smoke when my wife is driving and I have been behind her in her car and told her to give it some that is the only way I really no wether they need doing or not. Doesnt blow smoke on start up I presume this is a good sign. The injector pump was last done at 170k and injectors. Hasnt been touched since. I get 10L per 100klms wether im in sand, freeway, city always seems the same 500klms 50 litres maybe 53L.Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:00

Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:00
Hi Stephen,
Im no expert but i had to rebuild my deisel some years ago decause the previous owner hadnt done the injectors for a long time and the experts told me that its demise at 420,000 was helped by getting too much fuel and causing to much carbon buildup around the rings.
As a consiquence i have mine serviced at no more than 150,000 intervals, as was recomended to me.
Blowing black smoke is usually a sign of to much fuel.
Probably best to seek professional advice if you are not sure.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 17:38

Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 17:38
Thanks for that Pesty will follow that up further. There are some very reputable diesel service places here in sydney. Thanks for the information, take care have a great day Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 19:38

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 19:38
I agree with the how long is a piece of string..

Since your already doing oil and filters every 3000 (I'd nearly double that to 5000), and filters it should as roachie said, keep on going. Throw the snail at it and be happy.

Then again, is it worth it to sell it now while its worth something and update?

ifs is bovine faeces.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:01

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:01
Thats what I was thinking in regards to resale, but i have just been on net at car sites and they all seem to be holding there value quit well. around the 10k mark for the same year model some a bit more. Wether they sell them or not is a different story. Thanks truckster Regards steve m
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 22:57

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 22:57
Thanks all sounds like it might be worth hanging onto for a while yet, I will spend the dollars and now get the new shocks that it requires and keep it, you have made my mind up for me. Regards steve M
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:12

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:12
just incase any one is confused I posted this question from my work which still has my old visitors name which is vitara prior to me coming a member, will have to work out how to change it so it will come up with steve m. Regards steve m
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Reply By: Big Woody - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:18

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2006 at 23:18
Hi Vitara,

When I sold my 1990 2.8D Dual Cab Hilux it had 380,000 k's on it and still going strong.

Brett
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 17:40

Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006 at 17:40
Thanks for that Big Woody, (love the name) gives me a bit more faith in the old girl yet. Take care Regards Steve M
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Reply By: DesC - Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 19:33

Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 19:33
Most km's i have seen out of a pusslux engine was 200k. Usually drop valve guides or burn oil if not owner operator.
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