Suspension query

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 18:11
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Hi all,
Boy am I confused, I have a 100 series live axle that has only standard suspension. I want to upgrade to heavy duty suspension with a 50 mm (2 inch) lift.
The car is for touring and carting a family of 5 with a heap of gear.
The problem, the guy at ARB tells me I have to get a castor kit, replace the steering damper and of course springs and shocks, but a bloke from Ultimate suspension tells me I only have to do the springs and shocks. ?????
Is the ARB guy just trying to up their sales figures.
Also if any one can recommend a good place to go for the above in Sydney I'd appreciate it.
Thanks Oz.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 18:22

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 18:22
Quote: "Is the ARB guy just trying to up their sales figures".....

YES YES YES.........
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Reply By: WillyWish - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 18:27

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 18:27
The Castor Kit and Steering Damper is optional, not essential.
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Reply By: NissanNut - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 19:03

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 19:03
Ive just gone through a similar suspension upgrade on my 80, but i went for 3" lift about two months ago.

Today i ordered a castor kit becuase the thing now wonders all over the road becuase the lift makes it run -2.9 degrees castor. 3 degree caster kit will fix this and hopefully make it steer straight again. (about $160 but well worth it).

Verdict:
Springs and shocks - Essential
Wheel Allignment - Essential (done by proper steering/suspension workshop)
Castor Kit - Highly reccommended (you might only need 2 degree kit)
Steering damper - Not needed, Upping sales figures (nice to have though)

Cheers
NUTS!
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Reply By: hazo - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 19:09

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 19:09
Hi and yes, I lifted mine 40mm with new suspention upgrade and no didnt fit camber kit! what you do have to do though is re-set the rear brake compensator to allow for lift. I got info off lccool site and did it manually(no pressure guages) and had no probs at all. Prior to ajusting compensator had all sorts of probs, brake pedal bypass very low braking power when towing caravan etc. no one could find cause till i stumbled across it on the lc forum!
Brian
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 19:23

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 19:23
The figures from the wheel alignment will tell you if it is required or not. Keep it within factory specs.

Do it once, do it right. With a family in the car I wouldn't even consider driving a rig that doesn't steer correctly. Incorrect castor angle is bad news.
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Reply By: udm - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 20:35

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 20:35
For only $130 an offset bush kit (or around $250 fitted), I wouldn´t even think about it... do it, do it, do it. Most will say you don´t really need them, but lift the car, drive it for a day, then get the bushes in, out for a spin... and you´ll tell the diference right away. I drove my car with 4" lift for only 1 day, no castor correction fitted, and the thing was the most scariest car to drive.

As far as steering damper goes, you dont need it, but... how old is the car? you might want to change it anyway. I think arb has them for about $120?

And for where to go... you intend fitting yourself or getting it done?
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Follow Up By: Ozzy - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 21:44

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 21:44
Thanks for the advise, I'll be paying some one to do the job for me.
Oz
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Reply By: 120scruiser - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 20:53

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 20:53
Hey ozzy.
Drop me an email at work lonards at bigpond dot net dot au and we will have a chat.
You can also contact me at this address
I work on a couple of people from this sites cars.
The best for the cruiser is king springs and koni shocks.
We can fit these or a cheaper brand shock if you want.
We can wheel align as well.
With 2 inch lifted HD springs and an empty vehicle you will have nearly 3 inches of lift. We need to discuss accessories like bull bars, winches, draws etc.
No obligation if you just want to chat.
Cheers
120scruiser.
BTW we are in Sydney.
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 22:55

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 22:55
I concur. I've got Kings, Koni's and castor in my 100 series. Polyairs in the back too because I carry a lot of extra weight like tools, fridge, Kaymar, jack, tank etc etc.

I reckon this setup is dynamite. I shudder when I think what my old standard 100 used to drive like.
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Reply By: fredd - Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 21:00

Thursday, Jan 12, 2006 at 21:00
i have a 100 series live axle. put king springs 50 mm lift for 400 fitted.
used original shocks 80000km. will replace shocks when necessary - about $100 each. total job about $800 fitted

tjm quote 1200
arb 1800
both these included a steering damper, not necessary for 50 mm, .coet to cuy damper 120 at tjm
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