Fishing Gear??

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:24
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What would be a good general purpose fishing rod/reel/tackle etc. to have in the vehicle while travelling around?? We would probably be dropping a line off a jetty, or in a river or wherever else when time permits. I've seen the keen fishos with a setup for every situation, but I don't want to have to carry too much.
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:38

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:38
On my first trip with the family to CY, my son wanted to take a rod. No space I told him. Stopped at Weipa and spent a fortune on fishing gear. Amazing how I could find space when I saw the size of the stuff caught from the wharf ...:))
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 15:28

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 15:28
I only use hand lines they work ok


All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:14

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:14
Does he need a boat with the handline ?
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:50

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:50
No I only ever use a hand line in the cape our guests take rods and some take many.
The fish in the above were caught out of a boat at the mouth of the Jardine.
I have caught many of the wharf at seisia and of the wharf at weipa and of the beaches around the place.

All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Patrick - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 20:48

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 20:48
Hey Eric,

It a bit unfair to catch those fish when they have obviously been on the drink!!

Cheers,

Patrick
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 08:05

Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 08:05
Patrick I was resposible 1 xxxx gold then a diet coke.

All the best
Eric

ps lucky you cant see just out of photo. LOL
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:43

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:43
I would suggest something like Rex Hunt all purpose Shimano combo. Shimano make good stuff. 6-8 ft long 8-10lb line. I have lots of fishing rods and gear but if u only take one just make it a general purpose rod.
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Reply By: theshadows - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:47

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:47
Go down to Kmart and pick up a GP rod and reel pack for about $20. I carr one about all the time with a small set of hooks and lures. Bait is easly just have a look what is floating down the waterway and use that. grasshoppers, bugs. At busy wharfs bread and hot chips work a treat.

shadow
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Reply By: glenno(qld) - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 16:13

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 16:13
alvey
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:13

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:13
Line twist , slow retrieve .
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Follow Up By: glenno(qld) - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 18:18

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 18:18
NEW - "Rapid Retrieve" Handle Plate allows you to crank baits or lures in up to 30% faster using the smaller handle
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 20:42

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 20:42
Glenno ,
I am extremely unimpressed . Maybe you can do some special excercises to develop your winding technique - then you'll get that up to 40% faster . Awesome .
Sorry ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: glenno(qld) - Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 15:57

Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 15:57
I just looked at your photo gallery and i change my mind to whatever you are useing . LOL
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Reply By: Pneumatic - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 16:16

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 16:16
Hands down in my opinion Penn makes the best reel, the investment will last you 10 years or more if you keep it oiled. For general purpose I'd go with a spinner reel, check out the Penn Spinfisher SS 6500 or 7500. As for a rod I'm originally from the States so I dont know what's being made in AU, but StarRods handcrafts the finest rods I have ever seen and they are sought after around the world. I've had the same Penn reel and StarRod set up for 11 years and they perform same as the same day I bought them. I think the rod/reel cost me $100 back then. The shipping to Australia would be well worth it.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 13:57

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 13:57
Penn ( US made models ) DO last for a long time but they are soooo old fashioned and sooooo heavy . Now that the ownership of Penn Reels has passed from the Henze familly , there will be Penn Reels manufactured in Asia . Maybe a good move if they maintain the quality and get with the times .

You do not need to buy US built rods to get good quality and in fact many "US rods" are made on blanks imported from Asia now . Many Chinese made rods marketed in Australia rods are built with Fuji reel seats and Fuji guides - these are usually great value and good quality .
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 17:09

Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 17:09
yep, Penn's are heavy but I dont go into the bush with an sport ute ether :). I must point that I mentioned StarRods becouse the are hand made in very small quantities. Anyone can manufacture a rod but in the end you'll spend 3 times the money buying press mold rods compared to a handworked rod. If I knew of a Aussie rod craftsman I would have just saved myself $40 in shipping.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 17:31

Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 17:31
Pneumatic ,

I am not suggesting you go bush with a sport ute . Perhaps a Landcruiser though , instead of a blitz wagon .

Please tell me what a "press mold" rod is . I cannot wait to hear about this new type of rod .

There are any number of rod makers in Australia able to custom build rods . There is absolutely NO reason to buy one in the USA .

Cheers ,

Willie .
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 17:42

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 17:42
Press mold rod is just a rod that is mass produced. The epoxy resin is injected or "pressed" into molds. Some other methods include dipping, spinning, etc, etc.

As for US vs. AU, I was only trying to express the need to buy proper gear no matter where it comes from. If you know of a Aussie company that is producing high quality, hand made rods please let me know I'd be glad to check them out.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 18:58

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 18:58
If you want the best custom rods in Australia then go to www.millerods.com

If they are a bit pricey for you and you live in Sydney , try Bluefin Sports at Kogarah or Ottos Fishy Business at Drumoyne .

There has never been a fishing rod built by your injected or "pressed into moulds" method . Also there is no rod made by "dipping" or "spinning". Where on earth did you hear about such utter rubbish .
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Reply By: Mulga Bill - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 16:30

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 16:30
I've got a wide variety of fishing rods and reels (we use a boat, work off the beach and in the river etc) but when bush I take very simple basic gear. There is a heightened risk of breakage and losing the gear - unless the trip is all about fishing, cheap easily replaced gear is the go IMO. If it was one rod, a cheaper egg beater combo would be my choice - something anyone can use - $50 max probably - about 7-8 foot long (try for a set with a spare spool for the reel - for different line weight) - a small tackle box with the usual mixed goodies. As Eric suggested, a few hand reels with varying line weights is good for the other situations.
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Reply By: samsgoneagain - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 18:42

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 18:42
get handlines ,cheap, easy to store , no moving parts for dust. and doesnt matter if you lose them or get stolen.
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Reply By: russ36 - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 19:21

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 19:21
i use a telescopic 6 ft baitcaster, compact when stored and so easy when moveing thru the scrub
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:20

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:20
Telescopic rods are the weakest , and should only be used if a situation makes it absolutely neccessary eg backpacking or kayaking . To take a telescopic rod on a trip as a general purpose rod is asking for trouble .
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 20:20

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 20:20
I've got a length of 100mm sewer pipe that I mount on the roof racks. Have set it up so I can padlock the screw caps on both ends. Good protection for the rods when bush bashing and out of sight from those who think they need it more than me. The length is so I can get a full length beach rod in, but I can put a variety of rods in it, around eight rods if I choose.

I undestand the wish to carry as little as possibe, but with my set up I don't need to worry. I fit all the tackle, reels etc in a 20 Lt plastic bucket with lid, with small plastic containers for the tackle, sorted by fishing type. Keeps it all tidy and smell free in the vehicle. Bucket comes in handy when fishing as well.
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Follow Up By: Patrick - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 20:53

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 20:53
A bit of Malcom Douglas in you Norm. Malcom used foam to secure his rods inside tubes carried in his boot.

Next thing you know you will be catching fish with only red raffery paper.....oh to dream.

Cheers,

Patrick
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 21:06

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 21:06
Whatever rig you get, ALWAYS fish at low tide. There is less water and the fish are more concentrated then.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 22:00

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 22:00
what a load of crap! Changing tides either high or low but high generally is best with changing high.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 13:44

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 13:44
A tad oversimplified Matt
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Follow Up By: gramps - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 17:48

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 17:48
LOL love it Matt :))))))))
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 02:34

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 02:34
I disagree with those who recommend a "cheap" outfit. $20 reel? You will be lucky if it lasts more than a few outings. The problem with these is the bail arm has a fixed line wheel which is usually nothing more than cheap chrome plated. It will cause undue stress and wear on the fishing line.

Like Brew, I have several different combinations, but a 6'-7' spinning rod and a reasonable quality "egg beater" reel spooled with 6-8kg line will suit most general purpose fishing trips.

The reels in KMart are generally quite good quality as reasonably priced. Something like Shimano, or Penn, or Jarvis Walker are all good brands and are available with multi ball bearings and rust proof construction. This type of reel will "feel" right and work well due to a counter balanced handle. They can be easily swapped from right to left handed operation.

A soft line such as "Pretest" will give you a longer life, better feel and far less tangles than a stiff type and you just may catch more fish.

Also, don't discount the local fishing tackle shops either. They are usually competitive with the big Shopping Centre stores and will give you valuable advise and assist you in selecting a total fishing solution to suit your budget, without "ripping you off". They will advise you on sinker weight and hook size to suit the Rod/Reel/Line combination and basically make that first fishing experience an enjoyable one.
Bill


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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:25

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:25
Sand Man ,

That all makes good sense . Why does nearly everybody suggest by cheap junk . They will get somewhere and find that it's all buggered .
I would not suggest people judge reels on how many ball bearings are in them - it is the biggest trick in the trade now , to get a cheap crap reel , put 5 low quality ball bearings in it and sell it as a "good reel ".

Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 12:16

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 12:16
That's good advice Sand Man
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Follow Up By: signman - Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 15:43

Tuesday, Feb 07, 2006 at 15:43
Sand Man
Thanks for your response to my fishing gear enquiry. Off to the Tackle shop tomorrow morning.
Now...part (2) of the question.
Whats the go with hooks,sinkers and all the other paraphernalia.
I guess typical fishing would be, say, at the first line of breakers Fraser for flathead, off the wharf at Stanley (Tas)..for whatever is biting, in the boat harbour Darwin etc etc. Not after Marlin, probably just big enough for a feed.
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:11

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:11
And then there is expanding bait ...
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:47

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:47
When I had my Trak Shak CT built , I asked them to divide lengthways , the 6 foot long locker on the side . Now I can store poles in one side and a big assortment of rods or rod sections , in the other .

I always have a fast taper 10' rod that I can use for spinning off the rocks with a high speed overhead reel , a light beach rod of 11'4" for 12-15 lb liner , a light baitcast rod for 6 lb line and a barra baitcast rod which should handle 20 lb if I am careful .

If I am taking my tinny , I increase this selection ..................

If I could only take one rod and reel , it would be the 10 foot rod , but with an eggbeater ( good quality ) . Maybe with two spools of line - 12 lb and 20 lb . Then I could go beach fishing , estuary fishing and rock fishing . Not the ideal outfit for any of these situations , but able to do them all at a pinch .

I would suggest you go to a discount tackle store ( or check out some prices on the web ) for the following :
Silstar PT- 1002SFM
Okuma EZ-60
This outfit will last you forever and will not cost the earth . The Okuma has stainless steel gears and sealed bearings for use in salt water . The Silstar rod is a fast taper with a light tip so you can use it in many varied situations - and it won't bust on a fish .

I do not work for any fishing tackle company , I just want to give you good advice .

Cheers ,

Willie .
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Reply By: flappa - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 14:30

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 14:30
IMO , a good starting point is a Rex Hunt Shimano Combo (General Purpose) for around $100.

Something around 6-7 ft, eggbeater reel.

Very simple , pretty reliable.

Will handle estuary, boats , wharf , and places like the beach/rocks , where there is little wave action.
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Reply By: t0me (WA) - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 16:39

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 16:39
On ebay there's a mob in WA here who have a 2 piece 10ft spinner ugly stick for under $100. Add a reasonable reel (I like the Okumo's too) and IMO you've got a setup that will last you for ages (10 year guarantee on Ugly sticks I believe).
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Reply By: OLDMAGPIE - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 17:39

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 17:39
keep $20 in a bag hidden under the seat , find the local phone book or ask around where the nearest fish shop is, saves heaps, go to the jetty take your seat, couple of beers sit back & relax & watch the others do all the work while your enjoying the meal.
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Follow Up By: gramps - Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 17:54

Monday, Feb 06, 2006 at 17:54
hahahaha I have to keep reminding my brother-in-law to remove the pieces of newspaper BEFORE displaying his latest "catch" LOLOL
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