Mobilise the Grey Nomads

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:29
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Morning All,

I have spent the night thinking about the people of North Qld and trying to imagine just what they are going through at this time. Reports from friends in the area would indicate that even the media reports which we are getting do not show just how devastating this cyclone Larry has been . The worst part is still to come as the absolute shock of the ordeal sets in for those who have been through this traumatic ordeal and lost everything. Try to put yourself in this position.
Ok so the State and Federal Govts are saying that they will assist etc. and no doubt they will rebuild the infrastructures and the insurance companies will help in the most part for the houses. What about the things that the general communities have provided for themselves over many years? Who does the volunteer work while the ‘normal’ volunteers are busy restoring their own individual lives? Who helps when the media attention moves to another field even though only part of the work is done? In short who is there to offer a hand of support when there is nothing on offer but satisfaction of having helped a fellow man.
So that is the background. What can be done?
My wife and I believe that we ‘Grey Nomads’or ‘Geriatric Gypsies’ still have some acquired skills and energies which could help. We could take over the mundane jobs or provide unpaid assistance in the communities or maybe help a farmer or business restore some normality to their bleep tered life.
Our big advantage is that most of us carry our bed and board with us wherever we go and in an area where housing is the main deficit item this is a big plus.
I am not suggesting that we all pack our trailers and rush enmasse to Innisfail. Firstly we could well be in the way during the initial cleanup and secondly the costs involved with this undertaking are possibly beyond the scope of many. The time we could be of most help may well be when the rush is done and the troops are back in their base.

How many people are available ? What skills are on offer? What help is needed? Who would be able to coordinate? What funding would be required and how would this be found? Can we individually arrange sponsorship so that we can offer a little more than just a smile?

There are a large number of us ‘oldies’ and we certainly are not on the scrap heap. How do we -Mobilise the Grey Nomads?

Incidentally a lot of this mobile community normally head north in winter anyway so this may be an opportunity to show that we appreciate the region.

Open to comments and ideas.

Kevin J
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:43

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:43
Great idea hopscotch. Unfortunately I am still a working stiff for a few more years yet.

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Reply By: Member-Neil & Margie-Cairns - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:45

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:45
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Reply By: cackles - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:50

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:50
Top idea hopscotch, although not a grey gypsy yet I have been thinking of all the household items that I don't use anymore. cooking utensils, clothes, bedding, toys for the kids etc.

I would like to think that i could send these up, particularly to those that weren't insured. I expect that at the moment every dollar would need to be saved for rebuilding.

I also think that the communities could use the financial boost the nomads bring with them.

so come on folks lets try to do something positive for these people.

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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:52

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:52
I was wondering the same thing. Particularly ex trades people as supervisors.

What worries me though are the number of poeple now out of work up there, because the business is no longer there.

Maybe a chance for a 'work for the dole' situation for those people to help others, and maybe even thier own businesses get back on line, while getting paid by the government.
Maybe even a chance for training some people in the building and allied industries.

This is going to take years to overcome.
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Follow Up By: cackles - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:02

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:02
We are in Mackay, and the shortage of skilled tradespeople is shocking, Builders are busy 18 months in advance.
I have heard it is like this all over the state so another blow for the people trying to rebuild.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:23

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:23
a lot of blokes in the building trade down here (Sydney) are scratching around for work. So they've been saying for the past few months.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 20:33

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 20:33
Still a shortage in SEQld in the building trades.

But I have heard of a little easing over the next 3 mths, then possibly busy again.
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Reply By: Des Lexic - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:28

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:28
One thing that needs to be taken into consideration is the capacity of the District (Caravan Parks etc) to cope with a large influx if people.
I think your idea is commendable and if I were out on the Wallaby, I certainly could assist and would look forward to the opportunity to utilise my building skills.
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Reply By: rocketsalad - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:43

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:43
Kevin J
This is one of the best posts I have read on here. Im printing it and sending this to my "nomad" parents.

As for where they could stay? Other than camp grounds/caravan parks, many nomads can stay at football feilds and show grounds as they have gennys.

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Reply By: Footloose - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:08

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:08
Let me say that I personally think that the sentiment expressed here is great. I applaud the thought.
BUT now for some reality therapy :((
Liability insurance, etc etc

Please don't think that I'm trying to pour water on the idea, merely playing devils advocate.

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Follow Up By: johnsie - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:39

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:39
Lets just reef the insurance industry back into line and get the Nomads as advisers and pay them in free accomadation fuel food or wharever it takes to get people back into something they are happy to call home.Its about time the average Aussie had a go again instead of whinging about the old days this is your country take posession.

This is by no means an attack on Footloose just a attack on a attitude thats would make many a buried Aussie tun over in their grave.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:52

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:52
Mate, as I said I think its a great idea. Whether it can fly is another matter. If it were done under the umbrella of a service organization then that's a different matter.
One of the blokes I know is up their with the police at the moment. The last thing they need right now is anyone that doesn't absolutely have to be there, so I haven't set sail to help. In any case I have my own responsibilities at the moment, but it did cross my mind as I'm sure others.
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Follow Up By: johnsie - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 21:00

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 21:00
Yeah I know what your saying work in pro resue and any thing being disscussed here is a least a month away the ground rules have to be laid down first which can be hard with muti agencies at work.

As a point of interest who is in charge overall ?
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 21:17

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 21:17
That's a very good question to which I have no answer, so I will take a guess and stand to be corrected.
The state authorities are usually responsible in a natural disaster. I'd imagine that emergency services would come under the police, who would have initial control of everything. Their role would then become one of support as various agencies get to work. As there is no large scale loss of life or evacuation, it's difficult to say. Various councils are still very much involved also.
I'd initially be looking at the State Govt. Unfortunately the only people I know are a tad busy at the moment ..they're troops and not administrators :))
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Follow Up By: jeep jockey - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 09:54

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 09:54
We have lots of unused clothes & useful items we could well do without .
We live near Geelong.
Has any one started a depot. near here we could take such items to to help the cyclone victims.
I lived many years just north of Brissy and know how much truma can be involved in just a nornal 'little" cyclone
Jeep Jockey.
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Reply By: hopscotch - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 13:25

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 13:25
Firstly I thank you all for your comments. Just to clarify I am not suggesting that we should all race up to the area in the next 24/48 hours. They certainly do have their problems and they would not need to be looking after a bunch of nomads right now. Maybe two three four weeks. Maybe those who normally go north each year and were making a discision not to go this year should now reconsider and go being prepared to work as a volunteer. These Australians will need lots of TLC as well as $$s.

On the matter of insurance. If it ever gets to the stage where I have to worry about being sued for reaching out to help my fellow Australian I will seriously consider leaving or alternatively take on a role promoting the deportation of all litigation lawyers. These are friends I have yet to meet and they are hurting.

Have received some interesting responses from business people who may look at financial assistance if and when I can put together a definate strategy and that will take a while since I have yet to make sound contact with those we are looking to help. They may decline our help but I think that is highly unlikely if our intention is not to take over and tell them what they need.

Still thinking.

Kevin J
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Follow Up By: rocketsalad - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 15:18

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 15:18
Have you posted your idea in other chat rooms?
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Reply By: traveller2 - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 14:23

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 14:23
As you say most nomads would be totally self sufficient and would only require a bit of space in a backyard or the corner of a paddock, goes both ways too free campsite in return for helping out.
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Reply By: Member - John L G - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 15:07

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 15:07

Great idea and worthy of folowing through on.

I'm in the west so not much help but methinks that if you float this idea past the service clubs such as Rotary or Lions on a national basis they could provide the spring board to make such an idea fly.

It simply brims with possibilities.

Good Luck
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Reply By: hopscotch - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:03

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:03
So far only three forums but please feel free to transfer to any link you think applicable. This is not intended to be a system where you need to be told where to go and when but rather to motivate the GNs and to get them thinking ' I can help'

Talking to Rotary people locally.

Kevin J
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