Govt. Bandits!!
Submitted: Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 14:44
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Bill n Di
Just paid $2074.30 to transfer the 2004 Patrol we just bought! I can't understand what service we get for this amount of money - all it appears to do is transfer the vehicle from 1 name and address to another - in fact you don't even get a new piece of paper with your name on it- have to wait until the rego is due.
Is this cost the same in other states? Is there something else it pays for that I don't know about! Can anyone enlighten me? (There goes the new bull bar for a while!!)
Glad we didn't buy a new one - we couldn't afford to transfer it!
Di
!MPG:5!
Reply By: Member Boroma 604 - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:30
Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:30
Gooday,
Yes all states have it in Qld we pay 2% OR $2-00 in a hundred $ or part thereof.
NSW is 3% from memory & other states vary but all worse than Qld, think it is about 6% in NT. The only good thing in Qld we escape it on caravans as they are still classed as a trailer so no S/Duty, YET!.
What really annoys me is that with Little Johnnies GST that we would never have, all these state taxes were to be removed. And poiiticians don't lie?, is The Pope Catholic?!!!!!.
Cheers, boroma604.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:42
Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:42
Little Johnny hits you with GST which Peter Beatup gets all of plus some and Peter B still hits you with state taxes. A pox on both their houses my friend.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 23:33
Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 23:33
GST was never going to replace purchase stamp duties, & don't forget that wholesale taxes were dropped, which is why electrical goods have never been cheaper.
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Follow Up By: Bill n Di - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:05
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:05
WA works out at about 6% - I understand a fee to process but 6%!!!
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:19
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:19
In NSW you pay a transfer fee and stamp duty (unless you have an exemption). Can't remember the transfer fee but from RTA site
"You pay stamp duty on the market value of the vehicle or the price you paid, whichever is greater.
Stamp duty is calculated at 3% of the market value up to $45,000 and 5% on the value over $45,000"
So yes, 6% is exorbitant.
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ps Welcome to the madhouse by the way.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:23
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:23
Here's a 'kicker' I just noticed on the same site
"You may also need to pay additional motor vehicle tax if you have bought your vehicle from someone receiving an RTA concession (such as a pensioner)"
Sounds like you'd be reimbursing them for the revenue they lost to the previous owner. Bloody incredible :))))
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:48
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:48
State governments were supposed to phase out Stamp Duty, and other small taxes after receiving their GST money as I understand. some like WA didnt.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:57
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:57
It's a pity State Govts don't go the way of the dinosaurs. Absolute WOFTAM the lot of 'em. The money wasted in this country on separate health, education, etc systems and the bureaucracies to administer them is ridiculous.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 02:45
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 02:45
Yeah, I can just imagine WA being governed from
Canberra,
Sydney or
Melbourne.
Not long ago I was working out of
Melbourne and I was asked where I lived.
The west Coast I said.
Oh I havent been to
Portland for ages was the reply!
And no I am not making that up!
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:10
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:10
Why not? WA is subsidised to buggery by NSW/Vic, may as
well be governed by them as
well LOLOLOL
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:46
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:46
hahahahahahaha ROFL
I guess that is why whenever the secession debate arises here, the eastern states cant wait to get rid of WA -- NOT!!!
WA---Australias wallet!!
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Follow Up By: Bill n Di - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:39
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:39
When we upgrade the caravan later in the year we are seriously thinking of goiing to QLD to buy it - the vans are cheaper and the transfer fee sounds reasonable
Di
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 14:47
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 14:47
hahaha Fisho. Damn meagre pickings around here. Spread some decent burley and only get one bite LOLOL
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 16:32
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 16:32
Touch'e Pops!
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Reply By: Nav 8 - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 18:22
Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 18:22
I belive WA has the highest stamp duty in Australia. I bought a new caravan about two years ago, stamp duty $3050.00 bloody outragous ripoff and unjustified charge. The money the Government make out of fuel taxes etc not to mention the extra 5 cents a litre road tax on diesel fuel that was brought in years ago to pay for the damage trucks do to the roads( and we who drive diesel 4x4 vehicles also pay) I would like to see how much of it is spent on the roads.
Worst thing is there is nothing anyone can do about it regardless of who we vote for.
I HATE GOVERNMENTS,,,,NAV.
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 19:19
Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 19:19
Quite a few people are travelling from WA to Qld just to get a new 4wd; the saved stamp duty more than pays for the air fare and the return fuel.
A person in the motor trade told me that the WA govt is looking into stopping this "appalling" activity. When I replied to my source that this would contravene free trade between states, I was told that there were a couple of legal loopholes the WA govt could possibly use to get around this. Unbelieveable!
One thing is for certain, if the govt changes at the next election, there will be no change in the stamp duty rate. Just too profitable.
Gerry
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Reply By: Barnesy - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 18:55
Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 18:55
We have the best country in the world run by a relatively stable democracy but there is still corruption. the government receives taxes on just about every transaction that is made in the country.
They need money to run public
services such as roads and schools but even a lot of those are getting sold off to private enterprise. what is the government doing with all of the tax money? spending it on so-called 'public education campaigns' that always seem to occur just before elections.
what will happen to phone
services in the bush once the government sells telstra off?
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 23:29
Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 23:29
If the gov can shift Telstra... Would you buy it with it's current share performance and all the restrictions imposed on the business by the gov...???
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 01, 2006 at 22:23
Monday, May 01, 2006 at 22:23
Why do we need to sell it?
Again, are people stupid enough to believe that "THE PUBLIC WILL BE THE WINNERS WITH CHEAPER THIS CHEAPER THAT"..
No we wont. Once things are private, you can bet your arse cherry on things going UP.
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 11:31
Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 11:31
Too right Truckster! People are gullible and will believe just about anything. I can remember my employer in 1987 saying that we needed to adopt computers to give all us hardworkers extra leisure time. What a joke! Mind you they believed it as well and gave us retirement at 55 to get us out of an under employed workforce. The last laugh is on them as I now enjoy my time on EO while at work.
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Reply By: old mate - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 15:13
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 15:13
I read with interest on people's replies saying next time they will buy their next vehicle in QLD for the lower stamp duty. If you buy a car in QLD, to take advantage of the lower stamp duty, you will have to have a QLD address to transfer the registration over to. For that you will need a QLD licence. For that to happen you will have to surrender your original licence, you will need a QLD address and supporting documentation. Then you take the car back to your home state, get it inspected, register it in your home state (ok no stamp duty as the car is now in your name), change your licence back and the travel costs to get to QLD in the first place and getting the car home, is it really worth it?
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 16:56
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 16:56
Hi, Old Mate,
A
Perth friend last year traded his Lexus sedan on a Lexus AWD in NFQ, and he was staying at a hotel up there. He didn't mention any problems, just glee that he'd cheated the WA Govt out of a few thou. But he does usually spend about 3 months up there each year. Perhaps he used a friend's address where he does stay occasionally. Haven't seen him for a while, must ask him how he did it.
Gerry
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Follow Up By: old mate - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 17:08
Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 17:08
I will be interested to see how he did it. He would had to use a QLD address and some form of QLD I.D. I'm sure when I bought my car in SA and drove it back to
Brisbane to put QLD plates on it, QLD Transport wanted to see a QLD licence as I.D.
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