Pajero Di VS Prado TD Vs Pathfinder Di

Submitted: Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 11:55
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What would one Buy what are the pros & cons of these new models all being different setups a hard decision how good is the new pathy or do you buy the new prado with a reliable underpowered diesel or maybe the Pajero di is this an underestimated vehicle needs tow to off road camper and would like to go 4wd not hardcore rockhopping plus river crossings what is the depth the new pathy can go?????????
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 11:57

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 11:57
Wait till October and get a Prado with the new diesel engine :)
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:16

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:16
Or September-ish for the new model Pajero (but same diesel engine)... check out www.pajeroclub.com.au for some (biased) opinions on the current 3.2L Di-D Pajero.
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Follow Up By: Member - Clay G (WA) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:18

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:18
October? Do you know something that we don't? None of the dealers here seem to know anything other than than the Prado may be getting the Hilux CRD but have no idae of the time line.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:31

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:31
None of the dealers would want to tell you anything because they got current stock
to move...
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Follow Up By: TimmyG2 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:52

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:52
I went to price a new TD prado at my local dealership and they informed me that production of the new TD motor in the Prado commences in September, with vehicles available in October. They recommended if I can wait till then that I should weight as the new motor will also get the 6 speed manual or 5 speed auto.
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Follow Up By: Member - Clay G (WA) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:57

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:57
Did they intimate that it would be the Hilux diesel or a new motor all together?
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Follow Up By: TimmyG2 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:02

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:02
They said similar to Hilux motor.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:14

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:14
"I went to price a new TD prado at my local dealership and they informed me that production of the new TD motor in the Prado commences in September, with vehicles available in October."

if production commences in september, and it takes 3c weeks for the ship to get here, that doesnt allow much time for assembly, testing, customs, dealer delivery etc?

As someone else said earlier, dealers have evry incentive to tell you fibs, unless they have no stock left.
Conversly once news comes out there will be mega deals on runout stock.
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Follow Up By: jorgejhandal - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 08:05

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 08:05
I have seen a new toyota primera (dont know if its the new prado, here in central america it is exactly the same as the hilux except that its a closed car with the d4d engine of the hilux
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 08:42

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 08:42
"if production commences in september, and it takes 3c weeks for the ship to get here, that doesnt allow much time for assembly, testing, customs, dealer delivery etc?"

Sept thats when it goes into production, all the testing, etc would already be happening as we read. Assembly - how long do you think it takes a car to be built with todays technology?
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Follow Up By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 11:42

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 11:42
Toyota has been selling Prados with D4D engine in Europe for over 2 years now.
It is down here that we get old reliable rubbish :)....
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 23:20

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 23:20
"Sept thats when it goes into production, all the testing, etc would already be happening as we read. Assembly - how long do you think it takes a car to be built with todays technology? "

Dunno truckster, you would probably know better than anyone else. But dont get confused between an engine coming off the production line every minute, with it taking 1 minute to build it. Engine blocks arent cast on Monday morning and machined on monday afternoon I wouldnt think.

If you take the moment a chassis starts on a production line til it rolls off the other end Im guessing minmum a couple of weeks minumum?

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 13:56

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 13:56
if I remember, Mitz with the 380 were hoping to sell 60,000 units in first 6 mths. Work that out to how many a day. Dont quote me on that, i read it on this board YONKS ago...
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 22:19

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 22:19
I think we were talking about how long from starting production till they roll off the line, not how many a day they can produce.

doesnt matter, I know how long it takes for the ship to get here and to clear customs. Personally I take whatever a dealer (or real estate salesman etc) tells me, anyone for that matter who has an interest in relieving me of my folding, with a large grain of salt. Obviously alot of people believe what they are told and I guess that is how they make the bulk of their money.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, May 14, 2006 at 21:19

Sunday, May 14, 2006 at 21:19
we are talkin about how long from start to finish.
but to keep up those figures, how fast do you think they have to build them to keep those figures up?
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Reply By: Nifty1 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:39

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:39
Go to Site Link for another alternative. Cheaper, good warranty and performance, and available now. It has been a rewarding experience for me, although there is no arguing that Toyota have a much wider dealer network.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:01

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:01
I will second that,I wonder how many people have discounted the Hyundai because of It's name but have never driven one?
If you are in the market for a new 4x4 wagon go and drive the top 4 or 5 then take a Terracan for a drive and like me you might come away impressed.

Toyota- would love one but haven't got $75000

Prado-very nice but could do with more power

Pajero-nice but a bit noisy from the engine

Pathfinder-nearly got my money but engine was noisy as well

Terracan-far from perfect but very quiet to drive,good rear diff,strong engine performance(crdi) crap suspension( now fixed with koni shocks and king springs) and a 5 year unlimited klm warranty and before the yotas and nissan people bag the car I said before it was far from perfect but it suited me.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:04

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:04
I'll even go one step further, and say if u aren't going to want to fit too many aftermarket accessories, check out the Ssangyong Rexton.

We drove one after driving a Terracan, and the difference was amazing. The Terracan drove like a truck!

I know it's a Ssangyong, but it is all leather interior, lovely mercedes turbo diesel, 7 seats, and is just nice to drive. Check out the underbody protection too - we were amazed.

The main drawbacks were the lack of available extras. Like a 2" lift kit. Or snorkel. Or rear wheel carrier. Or anything, really. This may have changed in the last 6 months or so, but I doubt it.

We both drove it, and loved it, but didn't buy it, because we wanted to fit some bits and pieces.

Cheers,

Chump
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 20:55

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 20:55
I've owned a Terracan for two years. Mine is a Petrol and I've also test driven the CRDi. Damn fine bit of kit, not quite the urge of the V6, but hey, that's diesels.

Anyway, on the vehicle in general. It's very competent off road, especially if you lift the suspension and fit decent tyres. A great tow vehicle. The comforts fitted to this machine are amazing at the price.

Five, yes 5, that is, FIVE year warranty.

Well worth consideration.
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Reply By: scoof - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:52

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 12:52
I have a DiD Pajero it's a great 4by but it would be even better if the engine noise was quieter.
I had a drive of the new Navara and the new Hilux about the same amount of power as the Paj but so much more quiter inside, you hardly would know it's a deisel.I would wait for the models if you possibly can.Wish you luck not a easy one.
Cheers Scoof
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Reply By: RayJen Paj05 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:08

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:08
David, we have a current model Paj diesel and now tow a new Aussie Swag camper that weighs approx 1 tonne unloaded. Took delivery of the CT last week and achieved 9.7 litres/100 km on the (highway) drive back to Sydney which I thought was surprisingly good. Long drives (Syd-Adel-Syd) usually around 8.9 litres/100 km.

Yes, it's a bit noisy in the cabin but extremely comfortable on a long drive. Many would say out in the bush they are a bit soft. We shall see when on a 3 month trip July - Sep! Have always had a great run out of Pajeros so decided to stay with the brand.

Cheers, Jenny and Ray
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Follow Up By: GeeVee - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:57

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 13:57
David,

I support Jenny and Ray's comments. I bought a Pajero Di-D this time last year (end of financial year deal) and very happy with it. Very comfortable to drive. Economy to date is 9.3L/100km over 27,000kms. Had a GQ Patrol 4.2L Diesel with Turbo for 10 years prior.
Should be some good deals going shortly, particularly the last 2 weeks of June.
Happy hunting!

Cheers, Greg
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 19:42

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 19:42
Is that a Manual or an Auto

mike
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Follow Up By: RayJen Paj05 - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 19:47

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 19:47
Mike, ours is 2005 Paj auto 3.2 di-d

Cheers, Ray
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Follow Up By: GeeVee - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:59

Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:59
Mike,

My vehicle is a 2005 Pajero Manual Di-D.

Cheers, Greg
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:34

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:34
Bought a Pajero Di-D GLS about a month ago. Absolutely happy. Went from Disocs which were great but D3 was too expensive to buy and service. Looked at Pathy (very poor build) and didn't like the Prado (personal choice rather than much else)

The Pajero has a good range of accessories (I have a snorkel & dual battery so far) and the GLS came with 16 inch wheels so tyre choice is good (Changed to Bridgestone 694 from new). The shape is odd but as someone else said on the forum when I asked the same question - you don't see it from the inside!

Engine is very good albeit a bit noisy and the gearbox is excellent. Rear suspension may need help (Polyairs probably) if heavily loaded. I noticed that with our camper, fridge, big dog, kids and stuff the lights were pointing a bit high!

Adrian
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Reply By: jorgejhandal - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 08:09

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 08:09
I purchased a pathfinder and its a great car, Good acceleration, comfortable and about the engine noise , To me its realy quiet except when you push it hard in the gas but at high speed (cruising) its really quiet
even though Im used to the patrol(that was my old car)
overall its a great car to me
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