rated recovery points

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 17:36
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Have 4wd vehicle(mitsubishi challenger), wish to go fishin'(beach- "Tims Thicket" or similar ,West Aussie)- have NO recovery gear.
Asked advice from man at 4wd shop(no names). He checked car and said there were no rated recovery points on it. His advice was to use "bridle strap" on front - anchored with bow shakles to tie down eyes on side of vehicle front, thread "bridle stap" through snatch strap. On back of car he advised using high tensile bolt through reece hitch eyelet and anchoring snatch strap onto this. Said 8m 8tonne strap ok.
Is this good advice or dodgy advice?
Feel like a mug if I get bogged and no gear, more of a mug if bogged with wrong gear, (dead mug if trying to unbog with wrong gear?)
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Reply By: bruce.h - Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 18:28

Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 18:28
Gday oz doc
as an instructor with the wa 4wd association driver training programme i must say that this is dodgy advice mainly becauce you are adding projectiles to unrated tie down points if they were to fail you risk being hit by them the tiedown points on the front & rear of your vehicle are NOT rated for snatch recovery.my advise is to find a desent supplier of recovery points & replace your tiedowns with rated recover hooks bolted directly to the chasis with hi tensil bolts, also buy a long handle shovel as in sand this should be your first recovery item,would also sijest you complete a4wd course as all this is covered in the course Regards Bruce
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Follow Up By: Oz Doc - Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 18:43

Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 18:43
Thought as much. Problem is - where to I find a decent supplier. Man I spoke to today was in shop of big name 4wd accesory chain.
Would you care to recommend a 4wd training course?


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Follow Up By: Bruce.H - Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 18:59

Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 18:59
wa 4wd drive association is extremly good course covers every thing you need to get you started look in the white pages for wa ass phone numbers or email me budget@upnaway some details & i will give you a call if you want more advice Regards Bruce
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Reply By: Tim - Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 19:29

Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003 at 19:29
oz doc - if my mitso memory serves me correct you'll find that your pa challenger chassis is the old nj pajero chassis, therefore rated points should be the same, ask your local mitso dealer, they'll know - good luck
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Reply By: ROX - Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003 at 00:10

Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003 at 00:10
OZ Doc, Tim's thicket is a good beach to get started (that was my first behind the wheel) heaps more in pasanger seat. Also try White hills a little further south and can get a good run up if needed. If your tyres are down( me 12psi) then you won't need run up I can crawl up anything at that presure. Most people use servo at Preston Beach to fill up tyres but I recon you should cary your own as 3 weeks ago in Lancelin with the fires the power was out and I saw people with hand pumps at the survo re inflating there tyres, Hard work if you ask me.
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003 at 13:20

Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003 at 13:20
Hi Oz,

Your advice sounds dodgy to me. No way would I use the tie down points as recovery points. We had a NH Pajero and if your Challenger tie downs are similar to ours, they look like they could easily bend or tear off.

I recently rec'd some blatantly incorrect advise from a leading 4WD outlet (no names) so your comments don't surprise me. I'd invest in some rated recovery hooks front and rear. Be surprised if they set you back more than $80 fitted.

As Rox said, Tims Thicket is a good place to get started 4WDriving. Make sure you let your tyres down to about 15-20 and you should have few problems although the going does get soft in places. I'd recommend carrying a long handled shovel and an air compressor because the nearest servo's from TT is about 10 km's away now since the road diversion.Preston Beach servo is 22km's south of White Hills via a beach run. Again not too bad but the beach narrows in places and can also get rather steep with some big sand "drop-offs" that could potentially cause a 4WD to roll if you dropped a wheel off. Rocky headlands at the southern end of Tims Thicket beach and at Seal Rocks are impassable at high tide. There is a alternative route behind the dunes around the TT headland, but none at Seal Rocks.

Have fun!

:o) Melissa
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Reply By: Suzuki Viagra - Friday, Feb 21, 2003 at 19:06

Friday, Feb 21, 2003 at 19:06
Early vitara has virtually nowhere suitable for rated recovery points and chassis rails are too weak to cope with a 4t load if it were possible - HELP.

Fitting the bullbar has already reduced chassis flex (before it was possible to badly bow the bumper bar leading to "sex" between strut towers and struts - with the shape of the rails and their limited strength means that there's no way in hell that they'll take 3 1/4 or 4t (hey this is a 1t car remember). The only spot sauitable I can find to bolt up is is chassis but not rail mounted (and probably still wont even take 3t). At the back there is a point which will mount on the rail, but will only be useable only after heavy modification which may reduce it's strength (still questionable to 3 t load).

Fine if I'm towing out Sierra's but not so good when I drag out Troopies....

I've pulled out a 3T troopy before with no harm but avoid it where possible - I can't really see any solution.

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Thepublican - Saturday, Feb 22, 2003 at 00:07

Saturday, Feb 22, 2003 at 00:07
Suzi needs Viagra, best and only viable solution to your problem is to put the recyled razor blade tonka toy back into the toy box and fork out for a vehicle made from real steel.
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Reply By: Suzuki Viagra - Saturday, Feb 22, 2003 at 00:16

Saturday, Feb 22, 2003 at 00:16
Nahh - recovery points or not I still kick your ass! Lol
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