Oil change just completed: 12 months & 33,000klm

Submitted: Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 12:49
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Just an update for those interested...........

I've just changed my 12 month old Amsoil 15W40 for a load of 5W30. The oil was put-in in May last year. I have changed the filters (normal and the big mutha BY-PASS) once during that time. I was getting regular oil analysis done by Castrol Laboratory in Sydeney ("and the winner is........Sydeney"....hahahaha) and right up to the last one I had done @ 30,000klm a couple of months ago, the oil was still in "perfect" condition. I probably could have gone another 12 months, but I erred on the side of caution and changed it anyway.

Now, we'll see how the 5W30 handles the job!!!

Cheers

Roachie
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Reply By: Warrie - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 12:58

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 12:58
Got any details of what residues were in it,how black it looked and all the other important parameters? At $70 a barrel the less we have to spend on oil the better. Cheers, Warrie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 17:21

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 17:21
Warrie,
The oil was BLACK alright; no arguments there.....BUT....you could wipe the dipstick between your thumb and finger, roll the 2 around for a few minutes (whatever turns you on!!!) and then wipe the oil off fingers with NO residue (ie: NO SOOT).

The various metals and other stuff they measured hardly varied whatsoever at any of the tests; meaning that the big mutha filter was still doing it's job.
Cheers
Roachie
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:10

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:10
Hi Roachie.

Good! results for the ks, Do you think the 5w40 will stand up in the summer months?

Cheers Axle
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:24

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:24
Was just thinking that too, It might be a bit too thin, I used 5W30 in my engine and it was thin, till Ford updated it to 10W30 I the changed to Penrite 10W50 and have used that for the last 40,000

Don’t you need to change the Oil every 12Months With By-pass filtration regardless?
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:33

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:33
Gee just noticed that , thinking 40 grade 5w30 is a very light oil!.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 17:17

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 17:17
I'll have to keep a close eye on how oil is handling things once the warmer weather comes along. I still have about 5 or 6 oil analysis kits to be used, so that should give me some indications as the time goes by.

The bloke I bought it all from uses 5W30 in his GQ ute, but recommended the 15W40 for the first dose, to "prepare" the motor for the lighter stuff. He told me all about how the grooves in the pistons where the rings sit, develop a build up of microscopic gunk over their life time of using normal oil and the synthetic 15W40 would clean all that out and make the pistons "ready" for the lighter oil. He's been overseas to study oil (that'd be about as interesting as watching your car rust I reckon). He certainly is knowledgable and is notbtrying to flog product. He does not advertise and only got involved because he is a farmer with a typical high ownership of expensive tractors, headers etc and wanted the best for them.

Anyway, I'm satisfied he is on the money.....he hasn't changed his GQ's oil for about 80,000klm and it still runs sweet with over 250,000klm on the clock; it's had about 3 oil changes during that whole time.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:00

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:00
Faire enough< I won’t bother typing out my resining about changing to the thin oil as by the sounds of it this guy knows a lot more than me on the subject.

If you don’t mind me asking how dose he get the amsoil as by the look’s of things they will not ship it outside of the US or Canada (which I can’t understand why) even if you become a amsoil dealer at this point in time. So I guess he has a contact in the states who sends it over for him.

I Understand if you cant give out that information.

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Follow Up By: gaz4 - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:25

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:25
Exploder,

Amsoil has at least one agent in Australia - try this bloke, I've bought the synthetic transmission fluid from him in the past. Good stuff.

Bill Reid
Lubrication Management P/l
127a Lonsdale Street
Dandenong VIC 3175

email: aerolexus@net.com.au

Gaz
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 19:23

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 19:23
Thanks mate!!

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 20:26

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 20:26
Exploder,
If need be, I go past there every Tuesday night on way to camera course if you want info, or whatever.... other than that its only 15mins from here, or 5 from GOB's..
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Follow Up By: Old Scalyback & denny - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 21:24

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 21:24
goodday truckie
i will be working nearby this week i will go and have a look

steve
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Follow Up By: Flash - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 21:49

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 21:49
G'day Roachie,
Where do you get the Amsoil synthetic diesel oil????
I've been using bypass filtering for years and swear by it.
Have just this week stripped down our family diesel Gemini which has had bypass filtering and lived on RX Super since new. (we bought it new in early 1981)
It has had maybe Nine or TEN (at most) oil changes in it's life, but very sadly bent a couple of valves (valve hits piston- ouch) due to a broken rubber cam belt (I hate them).... 385,000 klicks on the odo.

Any way stripped it down as I said and......
Wow, beautifully clean, absolutely no gunk, absolutely bugger all wear anywhere!!!
What a sad waste of an engine due to a bloody rubber belt. Like I said, I hate them. (It's not economic to repair... couldn't even source a head gasket.)
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 10:27

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 10:27
Yea thanks steve, find out how much, Might run it in the new truck..

Need to find out where to source these bypass filters, are they a must to run WITH this oil?
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 12:08

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 12:08
Thanks Truckster and or Steve, if you could report what you find out it would be much appreciated

I am personally interested in these 2 oils, for the next car.
(AMO) SAE 10W-40
(XLO) 10W-40
And Amsoil engine Flush to prep the engine for the change over.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Exploder - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 12:21

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 12:21
Trucksetr check out the Website www.amsoil.com just look up the oil you want to use and it will give you all the information about drain intervals without the By-pass system fitted.

Each oil is slightly different in it's service life depending on whether it is a used in a Petrol, Diesel or Turbo/ Supercharged engine

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 12:04

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 12:04
<img src="http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/images/acd_gallon_350px.jpg"

is this the stuff Roachie?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 14:07

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 14:07
Truckster,
Mine is Amsoil Marine Oil 15W40 previously; now 5W30 (it poured like it was milk!!!)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 14:20

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 14:20
Why Marine oil?
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 08:02

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 08:02
Water crossings :)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 14:52

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 14:52
That would be a staged photo ni his sig.. roachie only goes where no sherman tank has gone before.
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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:48

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 13:48
Roachie just noticed on your profile ultimate # 54 probably worth more now than when you bought it.

All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 17:21

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 17:21
G'day Eric,
# 56 actually (my missus says I'm a pedantic sorta ol' fart..heheheh)....but you're right...I'd reckon ours would have to be worth more than we paid for it in 1999, despite having done well over 120,000klm. We've just had it tarted up a bit and it looks as good as new again.
I'm in the process of fitting a camera to the back of it to tie in with the existing set-up I've already got on the Patrol.
Cheers mate
Roachie
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:37

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:37
Must have had a Futch in the oil lines... ;-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 20:27

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 20:27
and HECLONY in the filters.
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Reply By: Flash - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 21:52

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 21:52
(Duplicate post in case you miss the other one)
G'day Roachie,
Where do you get the Amsoil synthetic diesel oil????
I've been using bypass filtering for years and swear by it. (Frantz)
Have just this week stripped down our family diesel Gemini which has had bypass filtering and lived on RX Super since new. (we bought it new in early 1981)
It has had maybe Nine or TEN (at most) oil changes in it's life, but very sadly bent a couple of valves (valve hits piston- ouch) due to a broken rubber cam belt (I hate them).... 385,000 klicks on the odo.

Any way stripped it down as I said and......
Wow, beautifully clean, absolutely no gunk, absolutely bugger all wear anywhere!!!
What a sad waste of an engine (and car) due to a bloody rubber belt. Like I said, I hate them. (It's not economic to repair... couldn't even source a head gasket.)
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 22:20

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 22:20
G'day Flash,
I get mine Amsoil from a bloke (farmer) between Yorketown and Stansbury down the bottom of Yorke Peninsula. His name is Ian Bishop. He doesn't ship AFAIK; only pick-up (which can prove difficult cos he's not always around....he has an oyster lease as well as the sheep/grain farm. He's not in the Amsoil business to make money....he just has supplies for himself and some friends etc in his farm shed. I think he might get some of his stock direct from o/seas, but there is also a bloke in Adelaide whose details I can't put my hands on just at the moment....could be at work, so I'll follow-up and respond again next week.
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Follow Up By: Flash - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 23:54

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 23:54
Thanks,
I'm in SE Qld and will do a bit of detective work to try and track down a supplier in this area. Any further info you could find out would be much appreciated. I'm in Adelaide now and then so could possibly get it when I'm down there??
Have read impressive data on Amsoil synthetic on American websites especially when used with Bypass filtering.

BTW as an aside I still couldn't believe how clean the Isuzu (Gemini) diesel was, bloody amazing!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:13

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:13
There is a dealer in SE Qld.....I got his name and number off this site, so if you do a search you should be able to find it. I phoned him (but haven't kept the details) and he gave me the number of a bloke in Adelaide. I only wanted to know because the bloke I deal with is often not around/hard to catch etc.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 11:47

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 11:47
Flash,

The bloke I was thinking of in QLD is Ross Lawson, phone number are:

0427 624494 or 07 5448 5953
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Follow Up By: Flash - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 21:10

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 21:10
Thanks very much.
Cheers
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Reply By: Barnesy - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 22:09

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 22:09
All the more reason for me to install a bypass filter roachie. will be doing that soon as the 5000km oil changes are getting on my nerves.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 22:22

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 22:22
Barnesy,
I think it's important to also use the 100% synthetic oil if you're gunna do the by-pass filtration system......I'm not convinced that mineral-based oils would stand up to the long-term like the synthetics do. I used to change my oil and filters EVERY 5000 klicks too......about every 7 weeks and real PITA.... hahahah
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Follow Up By: Flash - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 21:25

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 21:25
I did some oil sample tests in about '95 with RX Super and Bypass filter (Frantz) on my TD42 and found it was still good on my GQ at about 15,000 k's, so have since done changes at no more than that, just to play it safe. I reckon it would be easy to double or even triple or more that change interval with good synthetic as it is so far superior to mineral oil.
Having said that, I do regular filter changes (dual element ie: toilet roll every 3,000 odd k's) and each time I do a change there's some fresh oil goes in- probably nearly a litre.
Also on the Isuzu (Gemini) diesel I often went out to more like 35,000 klms before changing most of the time, again RX Super (though again with a bit of a top-up each element change.)
As I said elsewhere the condition of that engine was unbelieveable when I stripped it down recently at not too far short of 400,000k's, bloody spotless and no evidence of wear anywhere.!
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Follow Up By: Flash - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 21:30

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 21:30
Actually just looking at my log book (which I have always kept) the Gemini often went to as much as 45,000 k's between complete oil changes!!!
Cheers all.
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 01:11

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 01:11
Just did my 5000 oil today but I was a bit sloppy and splilled a bit. Jaqcui is squeelin cos the garage (where she parks her car) smells like degreaser now and I got the black chit on my jeans.

Damn, I can usually do it with less hassle than this LOL
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Follow Up By: Barnesy - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 09:21

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 09:21
What's more of a hassle Muzzgit, cleaning the oil off of the driveway or dealing with your wife?
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 14:18

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 14:18
2 minutes with a can of degreaser and a hose? No contest HAHAHA

My chiropractor said "try and have an easy weekend".

YER RIGHT

My back is killing me again today, after going camping last weekend, working all week, doing an oil change last night, and we're sposed to go camping again next weekend.

ONE POWERBALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 10:01

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 10:01
Ok i'll ask ............... what is a by pass filter system and how do you set it up?

I do my oils between 5 - 10 thou now and if i can eliminate a few changes that would be good not to mention the saving. Will also have to check this Amsoil out.

Brian
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Follow Up By: Barnesy - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 14:37

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 14:37
Brian, do an archive search. I asked this same question a few weeks ago and received lots of good free advice and links. I can't see why manufacturers don't fit them standard to new cars.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 17:28

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 17:28
Brian,

Check out www.amsoil.com

Have a good look around that site and you will start to get the idea. I was VERY sceptical to start with.....never heard of by-pass filtration until I read about it on this site.

Damn, Exploroz has cost me a fortune!!! in new chit that I've learnt about (reversing cameras, by-pass filtering, PWR radiators, Xenon HID lights, Denco turbocharger systems, Flitch {but I got outa that one...it was a dud}, Gel Cell batteries, 3 stage battery chargers etc etc) hahahaha

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:00

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:00
LOL Roachie ............. yeah I know if only my wallet could keep up with what i see and read about on here. Even worse I'm made keen fisho so my wallet is caught between two pleasures :) :)

I do well and remain controlled on just going out and buying BUT wife confessed she stressed a bit about me going to the 4x4 Show in Brisbane. She had good reason it cost me heaps .......... I'll show her what i got soon as i slowly put them on ROFL :)

I only live once may as well be on the edge :)

Brian

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Follow Up By: Keith_A (Qld) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 18:06

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 18:06
Have just been throught he exercise and have ordered the parts for my 99 GU 4.2td Patrol.
We are fitting a nipple to the rear filter mount, and screwing the bypass directly onto that. There are other set-ups - some simpler and some more involved.
1. The simplest is to replace the existing filters with Amsoils - this lets you do 12 month changes (both oil and filters).
2. The next is our option - nipple plus bypass in same position as rear filter.
3. The best option is the 'kit' with head unit - that Roachie has (but you need space to mount it).
If you monitor the oil, this option extends the oil changes out to 40k or 60K... + (with synthetic oil).

The OEM and Ryco etc filter to 30 micron.
The standard Amsoil filters to 15 micron.
The Amsoil bypass filter to 2 micron.

Check this website : www.a1oils.com.au Ask for Peter Crossing.
Very helpful - with thorough/complete explanations and advice.
He will give you the names/contacts for your local dealer.

regards................Keith
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 23:26

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 23:26
How much ws the filter adapter?
And how much was the top shelf one roachie?
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Follow Up By: Keith_A (Qld) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 07:41

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 07:41
Still waiting for the part, but was told about $17 for adaptor nipple.
(This is for the 4.2 TD GU).
The down side is the filter still hangs out horizontal - messy to change.
With Roachies set-up they hang vertically - much less messy to change.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 08:58

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 08:58
Truckster,

The one I got was new, but superceded stock. I know you don't buy mags, but there is an ad in some recent issues of 4WD Monthly from some mob called Rocket Industries (or something like that) and in it there are lots of pictures of their stock. One of the pictures (bottom left side of page) shows a dual filter head that looks identical to the one I'm using. I paid $200- for the head unit and the 2 initial filters, but I reckon the current stock from amsoil is around US$200- for the head unit alone. Still worth it in my book.....if not for the possible engine longevity increases, at least for the increased time between oil changes; once a year I can live with!!!haha
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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 22:57

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 22:57
I might be nieve but i have got to ask. If the filtering is so good, wouldn't it filter out particles of engine metals? Then the oil would always be free of engine metals. Or are these particles to small to be caught by the filter.

Alan
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Reply By: cookie monster - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 07:20

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 07:20
hi all,
new to explorOZ, read this link from a post on the outer limits forum.
i have been using amsoil 15w40 marine diesel oil for the last couple of years or so.
i too have had excelent results with it. longest service life has been 19000km with one change of normal filter half way. i have the oil tested by rob @ lubemate and they have both come back with a clean bill of health.
i am very interested in fitting the bypass system also. will be ringing the supplyer shortly to have a chat with him re costs. will let you know.
the dealer i use, is also an importer. here are his details
Bruce & Kath Pavier
PO Box 1278
Mylor
South Australia
5153
ph/fax 08 8388 5294

cheers
cookie monster
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