Swags - Your favourite

Submitted: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 21:50
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Guys and gals,

We've done the fridges, 4bys, tyres, uhfs, loos, lights (both camp and driving), etc etc etc but I have'nt noticed a thread devoted to which is the best swag. I know a lot of you still swag it at some time or other so am very interested in your opinions.

The time has come to finally move from the 20+ yr old sleeping bag that has served me faithfully without a problem. That's the sleeping bag guys, not the old bag I sleep with i.e. SWMBO.

As usual, funds are limited and it would have to be for general use, not specifically for the Top End or the High Country alone. Water and bug proof are essential requirements.

Yes, I've done a search and found some info but thought I would try to refresh the data.

Thankyou in advance
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:13

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:13
This is an easy one although you will be provided cheaper alternatives:-)

Down Under Swag JUMBUCK XL: Simple Erection - MIA*

If you are buying a "single" Swag, make sure you buy the XL which gives you extra width.

Top entry swag with sandfly proof mesh.
Zipped canvas flaps, hoops head & foot.
Erection two pegs & two ropes
Pole organizer at head of swag
Utility pocket inside window
TC Canvas Top 15oz, Base 17oz (proofed)
Size 213x84x58cms high (7'x2'9"x2'h)
Weight kgs 7.4
RRPrice AUD $399

*MIA = Made In Australia

SPECIFICATIONS & GENERAL INFO:

Mattresses are exclusive "Ripple" foam. This unique computer cut high density foam creates a soft surface & firm base. Thinner at the foot so that the bulk of the foam is under the torso, they facilitate comfort & rolling & minimize bulk. Rot proof covers are elasticised for ease of removal & cleaning.

Fabric exclusive cotton canvas in 15oz & 17oz proofed re-enforced "TearCheck" ™ canvas with exceptional breathability & suppleness.

Hoops are exclusive 9mm PU coated vinylester fishing rod fibreglass with lifetime warranty.

Zips are water repellent & self repairing spiral No. 8 & 10 with lifetime warranty.

Mesh super strong Sandfly proof "FineTex" ™

Buckles unbreakable nylon quick (side) release

Straps polypropylene

BASE SIZES -
Single 200x66cms (6'6"x2'2") - Small Single swag
Biker Swag 200x66cms (6'6"x2'2") - Small Single swag with compact mattress
Kompact 213x74cms (7'x2'6") - A standard single size swag
Kingsize 213x74cms (7'x2'6") - A standard single size swag
XL 213x84cms (7'x2'9") - Wider & roomier than KingSize
XXL 229x91cms (7'6"x3') - Longer, wider & roomier than XL
Double 213x140cms (7'x4'7") - For two people
All sizes quoted are approximate & may vary slightly.

www.downunder.swag.com.au/
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:32

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:32
Thanks Sandman. I've made a note re the extra width as I seriously doubt my chances of slimming down to any great extent. I love my tucker too much :))))))
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Follow Up By: Steve - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:17

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:17
There you go Al, it's got to be the one with the "simple erection"

- old bag or not.;-)
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:46

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:46
LOL Steve. I'm gonna fry just for laughing at that :)))))
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Reply By: Exploder - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:15

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:15
I know a lot of you still swag it at some time or other> I always swag it I hate sleeping bags, hardly ever used a tent and when I did I still used my swag, have even slept on a bed in my swag once and that was sooo very comfy.

Camping isn’t camping in my books without a Swag LOL
Anyway
I have a AOS Swag and it has served me well from the far south of WA to as far north as the Hamersley rangers and a lot of placers in between.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:24

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:24
I must be a bit of a pussy!

I have a sleeping bag which is too bloody small for me to sleep in when zipped.
BUT, it makes a good doona to put inside the Swag for cold climates.
Doesn't take up too much room either.

When my Wife and I use our swags, we leave the sleeping bag doona inside and roll the whole lot up. Too easy!
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:36

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:36
Exploder,

LOL some of my intended use for the swag will be on those 'ancient' camp beds that Lone Wolf was so interested in a few months ago. Thanks for the recommendation for AOS swags as well.

Sand Man,

Again, thanks. Your idea re the doona means that I can still keep my old 'security' sleeping bag hahahahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Sarg - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:45

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:45
Totally agree Exploder. Locally made too. Basic & no extra bull bleep added. Replaced the foam matress with a Coleman self inflater recently. Rolls up to bugger all size too. Great nights sleep.
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Reply By: warrenr004 - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:15

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:15
G'day Al. It's hard to find a swag that does it all...hot, cold, wet, windy, sand, mud, sandflies and comfort. We use a wedge shaped canvas swag with shade cloth screen in cool weather and carry a separate mozzie dome in hot weather (we live in Karratha, WA). Make sure you get a good quality mattress.
Cheers

Waz
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:45

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 22:45
Waz,

Yeah, I know what you mean. We generally end up compromising somewhere. Is your's a commercial product or custom built?

I was infamous for my ability to lie down anywhere, on any surface, no matter the surrounding noise levels and just fall to sleep in minutes. And that's without alcohol hahahaha Add alcohol and it's virtually seconds before I'm snoring like a buzz saw.

Now though, I'll agree with your advice re the quality mattress.
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Reply By: 4X4Treker - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:05

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:05
Gramps
Recently did the rounds of the camping shops and Caravan and Camping show and ended up with the Oztrail Mitchell, Its a large size with three hoops and with a little work I put a sectional fibreglass pole along the top of it. Once it is assembled and with the top pole its totally free standing no ropes or pegs. It comes with a high density covered mattress and all up I think its good value for money and good quality at just under $200

Cheers
Treker
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:45

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:45
Thanks Treker. I've heard a few good reports re the Oztrail Mitchell. Seems like pretty good value too.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:19

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:19
Had an open swag first up which did the job fine.

Bought my son a Jolly Swag Drover King Size, which I now use as well - single rope to the bullbar and its done. Simple fly screen.

Then converted my wife - bought a Wild Country double swag from Rays Outdoors for about $240. Canvas is made in India, mattress in Aus. Nice setup with screens and flaps - 3 hoops that hold the canvas up, and we can get out either side, so it works well.

they all seem good to me - don't think theres too many bad swags out there
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:39

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:39
I have the single version or yours, couldnt be happier, comfortable mattress & has never leaked. Was on special this week for $169.00
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:48

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:48
Thanks Phil/Shaker. Another couple to check out. Looks like I'll be causing the local camping stores a few headaches :)))))
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:39

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:39
The one I got is my fav :P
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:49

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:49
hahahahaha Truckie. I should have known how you'd answer, exactly as per the question LOLOL
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:56

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:56
If you were closer you are welcome to borrow mine to try it out.'

BUT ALWAYS TRY ONE BEFORE YOU BUY
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:49

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:49
Aaaah Truckie, you're a true gentleman. I'll take your advice and try every one I can.
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:43

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 at 23:43
Easy. Made in Shepparton - either a Darche Superdome (which I have) or a King Dome which they only started making recently.

I have lived in my Superdome for 6-8 weeks in the last 18 months. I swapped out the mattress for a Thermarest. Nothing wrong with the mattress but on the Canning we had 5 swags on the roof and I wanted mine to pack smaller.

Great swag. Reasonable price.

www.darche.com.au/page0005.html

Dave
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:57

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:57
Thanks Dave. They definitely look a good unit and agree they are reasonably priced.
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Reply By: disco driver - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 01:22

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 01:22
Years ago when I was a lot younger than I am now, my job involved the regular couple of nights solo bush camping. My swag was, and still is, a 10 foot square of 16 oz canvas, hemmed all round with eyelets fitted on the corners and with 3 eyelets along each side. This enables me to tie to a tree or bullbar to form a small hootchie, or just double fold the canvas over the bedroll as necessary. The mattress (single) is standard 3 inch hi density foam (7 ft by 2ft 6).
It has been used in temps from below zero through to 25 C.

Suits me, so I can see no reason to update to a "minitent"

Cheers

Disco
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:01

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:01
Thanks Disco. My BIL, a logger and fencer on the North Coast, has something similar and swears by it. If I go the 'minitent' style I know I'll cop all the city slicker yuppie jibes etc. But then again, I cop them now LOLOL
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 05:57

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 05:57
Gramp's

I've also got an Oztrail Mitchell which I've had for 12 months replacing the old style swag. Plenty of work including a Simpson crossing. Just purchased a Goliath stretcher to go under it and it works very well. I'm sick of finding creepy crawlys in bed with me. Must be going soft as well. Have a look at my camp setup in Members Rig and Profile.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 09:03

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 09:03
Hi Al

We have done swags before, a few times, but _thank God!_ not anywhere near as often as fridges.

Not everyone gets on with a swag, some find them claustrophobic, it took me a little while to become comfortable in mine. Try one out in the shop, hop inside it do all the zips up and see how you feel. These days I feel really snug in mine especially when I can hear the rain on the canvas :)

Like Richard I would, unhesitatingly, recommend the Mitchell, which is the swag I have too. I bought mine from Granger Camping on special for $200. They currently have it at that price again:

www.grangerscampingworld.com.au/

Click on the "catalog" link and it's on the fourth page down on the right (Page 8).
Or click “Tents” then “Swags” in the menu system for a bit more info and better pic.

The swag has full mozzie netting and an opening head section. It can either be used in just mozzie screen mode on hot nights or can be zipped fully up to withstand heavy rain. I’ve used it for some weeks in both conditions and it performed perfectly. The canvas is heavy and the zips are YKK.

Wolfie also has one and says similar good things about it.

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:15

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:15
Thanks Richard. Looks like you've got it all pretty well sorted. Hmmm like the Goliath stretcher as well. It's gotta be quieter than those old metal sprung things we use sometimes and a damn sight lighter too.

Mike,
I noticed in my searching that you had the Mitchell as well. Good advice to try before buying so it looks like I'm off to make some retail assistant's life a misery for a while hahahahaha Thanks
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Reply By: Member - sparra - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 06:39

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 06:39
mine is the old standard ordinary swag with no screens etc. 22 years old,just recently replaced the mattress,made me realise how buggered the old mattress was. cheers sparra
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:20

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:20
Thanks sparra. There's nothing wrong with the standard swags. It's served you well for a long time and no reason why it won't continue to do so. Just depends on how complicated I want the damn thing to be hahahahaha
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Reply By: Jack79TD - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 08:23

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 08:23
I have had a few different swags over the years and now own a DB swag designed by Dennis Bartell. It is a wedge shaped swag with full length zippered mossie net and full length zippered top. During summer the top can be undone all the way to your feet.
It is quick to set up with one rope at the top to tie to a bullbar or shovel etc. It is by far the best that I have had.

Regards
Jack
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:26

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:26
Thanks Jack. The DB swag certainly looks impressive and obviously you're quite happy with it. Hmmm .... I have a bit of thinking and plotting :)))) to do.
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Reply By: Beer Pig - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 09:48

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 09:48
Burke & Wills Redgum you can not beat but at $450 they are a bit expensive but well worth it.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:31

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:31
Thanks Beer Pig. If you're going to rely on something (and a good sleep is a must) you'll generally have to pay that little bit more.
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 10:38

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 10:38
hey Gramps

Got the Oztrail mitchell queen size (double) 3 loop, $349, its awesome, from granges
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:33

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:33
Another Mitchell lover! They seem quite popular with forumites. I'll definitely be having a real close look at these. Thanks.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 18:38

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 18:38
Hi Gramps,
A bit of a follow up.
Some of these new fangled minitent type swags require the flexibility of a 15 year old female gymnast to get into or more particularly out of (in a hurry) when you get as old as me.
Worth a thought?

Disco
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 19:12

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 19:12
Disco,

You're right. I had'nt thought of it that way. It's taking longer and longer to get out of bed these days.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:07

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:07
Good thing about the tripple loop mitchell is it has the top and the front enterance and is quite tall near the opennings. once in there i can sit up right. heaps of room.

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 16:38

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 16:38
That could be quite useful. Thanks Ads
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Reply By: TrevorDavid- Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:02

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:02
Gramps, Burke & Wills. I have a single for blokey trips, & a double for when the CEO comes along. Simple is good.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:56

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:56
Thanks TD. The B&Ws seem to be very highly regarded. Don't think I'd be able to convince SWMBO re a double but you never know. Surprised the living daylights out of me with the way she took to camping recently after an interval of 20 odd years.
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:30

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:30
I've watched this thread with interest, as I have been considering a swag for tripping about.

Currently i have a 10 x 10 tent centre pole and takes two double air beds with space, takes 5 mins to set up and has served more trips than i can remember. As it was damaged I purchased a dome tent two room one as my daughter was coming on the trip.

Now i'm considering either a swag or repair the old single pole tent. I may just have to go sample a few swags ..................... most important is the matress one must wake up relaxed otherwise not worth the money.

As I see it no matter whether its a swag or tent it MUST be very easy and quick to set up.

Sorry no help Gramps :(

Just my 2 cents worth
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:59

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 00:59
Brian,

I agree, it must be easy to set up and pack away but most importantly it must be comfortable. We've got a small centre pole touring tent. Has'nt seen a lot of use yet but we have a set routine for setting up/taking down and it works quite well.
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Reply By: junior - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 04:02

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 04:02
Hi Gramps-
We've got the Southern Cross "Double Dome Swag" rrp $570 (single $470)- we picked up a little cheaper at 4wd show and got boot flaps sew onto sides. Has been a ripper for us, very comfy too. You might cop a ribbing for having such a luxurious looking swag, but it's usually only from envious onlookers who go on to ask- "where can I get one?"
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:07

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:07
hahahahaha Junior, I see what you mean. Looks good though, thanks.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:57

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:57
Hi Gramps and all,

I got a Wild River from Aussie Disposals for about $200.

If it nice and wide, two aluminium hoops, simple enough setup:

* zipped end with screen for hot nights
* full length, almost, screen to watch the stars when you're lying there
* velcro closing for the main flap over your head and two simple ties right and left to keep out the rain.

One tie to the bull-bar or perhaps a tree and it's set for the night - if it's going to rain, I tie the foot end to something too.

Mine has quite a bit of dust staining on the outside, but is remarkably tidy on the inside despite about a year of travelling - probably 30 or so nights.

Ciao for now
Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 16:40

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 16:40
Thanks Andrew. Another one to think about.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 18:14

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 18:14
RaysOutdoors in Dandenong have Wild Country 'Outback' 2 hoop, bug proof swags for $139.00 at the moment. I saw them today ....... beat that!
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 18:33

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 18:33
They have an outlet at Camperdown. It's a mongrel of a drive but then again, there's quite a few camping stores around that area . Thanks Shaker.
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