Are Briggs and Stratton generators any good?

Submitted: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 14:26
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I seem to remember my Dad swearing by Briggs and Stratton lawnmowers but I've never seen there generators before. Does anyone know anything good or bad about them? I'm looking for something in between a $100 cheapie and a Honda, that I can't afford. This blokes got three for sale.

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Reply By: revhead307 - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 14:54

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 14:54
They are a reputable brand and have been around for years. So you could do far worse than giving them a try.

Have not had any direct experience with their generators tho.

wait at least three posts before someone mentions KIPOR.

Oops... i just did

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Follow Up By: A.J - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 19:48

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 19:48
G'Day
Briggs and Stratton make good sea anchors. . . . . . just like GME radios make good wheel chocks, mind you this is just my experience with them both!
If you buy cheap, expect cheap.
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 19:57

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 19:57
Funny you should say that AJ cos B&S are not usually all that cheap. I spent a number of years on the land and got to use several B&S motors on anything from water pumps to augers and concrete mixers as well as the mower i have now. Most people i have met swear by their reliability. What IS your experience with them?
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Follow Up By: A.J - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:24

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:24
Hi Brew
My experience with B&S engines was on a ride on mower, 16hp engine that ran for about 15 hours then died, (broken push rod) had it rebuilt, ran for maybe 20 hours and died, (broken push rod) had a brand new motor fitted, and all it did was burn valves. It was not used in "extreme conditions" and it also had it's 8 hour oil change at the dealer I purchased it from on both occasions. I spose at this point I should say it was a four stroke, but it was still a B&S engine. As far as GME go, I got sick of blowing fuses with the TX 3400 I had, and before you jump on me, I know they aren't really big enough to actually be a wheel chock, but you get the idea.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 15:05

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 15:05
AJ I had a similar experience with one too but the reason was no delivery procedure so no oil. Conrod through the block. I have never seen any other but a 4 stroke B&S. Can hardly count the number of B&S motors I have had around as Brew says, augers, generators, fire pumps and mowers. I would rather have some other brands like Honda and Kawasaki stationary motors but they have been ok

GME radios have been good as far as I am concerned. The only one troubling has been the less than $100 handheld that is a puzzle. Not sure how many 3200s we have and a 4400 that have all been very reliable. You just got unlucky
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:00

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:00
Sorry no experience here either, however they area a very reputable brand. I would be emailing the seller to ask the noise output and the run time on a tank etc etc. seems a good buy.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:10

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:10
The old Briggs and Stratton where as noisy as hell, I'd say they've come along way like everyone else.
The guy is probably legit but his feedback score is 0. I'd be asking what guarantee's he has before bidding. Maybe he can direct you to a real live trader.
If your looking at prices between GMC/Diesel and Honda you might like to view the Kipor and Engel's.

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:13

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:13
Seller must of only set up his account recently. I think you will find he is a regular on the Overlander forums and is legit.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:32

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:32
Thanks Leroy,
That's handy to know,

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Follow Up By: Slunnie - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 18:05

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 18:05
I know the seller personally, he's legit and its all good. He owns the big mower shop
(Western mowers & chainsaws) just near Toongabbi railway station in Sydney.
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Reply By: Member - John R (NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:11

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:11
I remember as a kid swearing AT the Briggs & Stratton lawnmower we had. It was a B@STARD to start, compared to the trusty Victa 2 stroke :-)
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 17:30

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 17:30
My experience is exactly the opposite. Victas have given me so much grief and my trusty B&S has only ever not started first pull once in 6 years.
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Follow Up By: A.J - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:41

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 20:41
Here we go. . . . . Holden v Ford. . . . . God forbid, Nissan v Toyota. . . . .LMFAO
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:11

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:11
How much are they and what is their output in kw?
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:24

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:24
OK, found it on e-bay and some specs here:

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It's a bit heavy and a bit noisey and it only produces 750W continuous but it's not a bad price at $500 for a quality engine 4 stroke gen (_if_ it sells for that!?). Personally I would either go GMC cheapie or spend another $200 and buy the Kipor.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:27

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:27
Mike,
The EBay advertisement he references says the following,

"INDUSTRY RATED AT 0.94KW WITH REAL POWER OF 0.75KW MAKING THEM PERFECT TO RUN LIGHTS, FRIDGES, TV'S ETC."

"Starting bid AU $500.00"

"THIS UNIT RETAILS FOR $988.00"

I'm not to sure what the difference between "Industry Rated at 0.94kw" and "Real Power of 0.75kw" is. Beyond the fact they are probably infering this 1kva generator is good for 750 watts continuous and/or inductive load.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:32

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:32
Google knows all,
They have a Mitsubishi donk, BSQ1000

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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:35

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:35
The 940W is a surge rating for motor starting and that kind of thing for a short period of time - a few seconds maybe?

The gen is rated to supply 750W continuous into a load with a power factor close to 1, ie. a lamp or a heater etc.

It is a nasty little marketing habit of late to specify these small gens by their peak (surge) power and not their continuous rating.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:51

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 15:51
I agree, it's a marketing ploy that relies on the purchaser having nil electrical knowledge.
True, the 750watts would be at a Power Factor of 1.

Nearly got me, I read the weight and saw 25. Then remembered it was pounds son, pounds. Therefore on par with the Honda's and Kipor's.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:01

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:01
Yikes, I gave the B&S the benefit of the doubt, they are crackin heavy for 1kva. According to Mikes link they really are 25kg's.

See, Honda EU10i is only 12kg's from their 1kva!!

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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 17:28

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 17:28
All it says is 25....is that pounds or kgs?
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 18:59

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 18:59
Hi Brew,
The link I posted just said 25, the link Mike posted actually says 25kg.

Not sure but I hope it's 25lb's not 25kg's!!

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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:34

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 16:34
We used to use a briggs and straton 3kva for running battery charges and power tools while working in remote locations, noisest POS you'll ever lay your ears on. I mean it ran well, but imagine your lawnmower add a little bit of load noise to it and you've got what you'll be sitting next to round the fire! I've heard the little GMC's, not tooooo bad noise wise, especially considering the $$$.

But yeah, go the kipor, my father in law's got a 2kva kipor and it's a neat unit.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 17:26

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 17:26
Had No Experience with there generators, But Have had bridge&stratton engines on three mowers, Heaps of Crap don" last , Alloy bores slightest contamination and there stuffed.

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Follow Up By: Jugs - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:04

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:04
I noted the B&S was 63 and Honda was 52 Db the Db Kipor 54~59 Db all at 7 M

as Db is a logarithmic scale it is masively louder
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Reply By: Peter - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:16

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:16
The ad doesn't mention that it is inverter power, therefore I would expect it to be on a par with the (much cheaper) GMC etc.
The starting bid is $500 so obviously you would expect the final bid to exceed that.
Believe the Kipor would be a better deal if the price goes up
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Reply By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:21

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:21
Had B&S engines on ride on mowers and generators, all were reliable, but the pic in the original post site link is a small portable NOT like the old traditional ones which were in steel frames to carry etc. I haven't seen one this small before I must admit.

Has this portable genny been rebadged as B&S?????

As staed before by post above - they were ALL noisy (the older ones I'm referring to) but damn reliable and good value especially on the land or semi fixed installations.

My 2 bobs worth again.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 15:10

Thursday, Jun 01, 2006 at 15:10
Sure has been rebadged on the engine front at least.
Follow this link, BSQ1000 and you'll find the engine is actually a Mitsubishi.
No mention of the source for the electrics.

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Reply By: rustytruck - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:48

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 21:48
Seems to be some angst on the B&S engines. I have three on the property - one 5.5hp, one 6.5hp and one 15.5hp unit. They have been operating almost daily for four years now and are hightly reliable. Had one problem with one - out of warranty - and Briggs rang me the day after my complaint and arranged repairs at no cost immediately. The new ones are very good. I was sceptical when I first used the new engines after a lot of historical problems but that was unfounded.

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Follow Up By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Friday, Jun 02, 2006 at 21:02

Friday, Jun 02, 2006 at 21:02
agree Rusty,, best when you provide evidence as you have done so well above.

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Reply By: mowing - Saturday, Jun 03, 2006 at 20:39

Saturday, Jun 03, 2006 at 20:39
Hi Emo,
I have a B & S motor (6hp) on one of my rotary mowers and it is fairly reliable but if it gets wet then it is a bugger to start. Plenty of grunt though. I think if you are looking mid range then the B & S would fit that bill.

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