Air cleaner to replace finer filter

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 16:38
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It appears that the finer filter people have had some issues and I can't buy a replacement outer or inner foam filter.
Both of the foam filters are damaged cos I've been doing the steel lid on the box up to tight with the wing nut. Still, they have lasted about 10 years with regular servicing.
We are running a petrol ( 4.5 Litre) 80 series cruiser with a snorkel.

Does anyone have any experience with the new cloth air filters. They seem very dear at about $120 plus the oil.
Perhaps someone could point me in the right direction.This is a great resource.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 16:42

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 16:42
Use the standard Toyota filters, do a much better job than oiled foam, can also be washed out in water.
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul S (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 17:27

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 17:27
G'day Peter,

Must admit I have never heard of washing OE air filters in water. Are these paper filters? Please elaborate.

Cheers,
Sheps
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 17:57

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 17:57
Yes they are standard Toyota paper filters, the instructions are on a sticker the end cap of the filter. The standard Landcruiser filter elements have been washable since the mid eighties.
I just went down the shed to get the part number as I had one laying around, must have chucked it as I can't find it now.
My 1990 troopy had one in it from new, I fitted a unifilter when I first got it and when I sold it with 170k/12 years old it was starting to use oil, the air intake always had a fine fil of dust in it that had made it past the foam filter.
There was a discussion about this in a post just the other day with a good link to a site with a scientificly comparison of oiled foam and standard paper filters.

See here Site Link
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:01

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:01
Yep I use the genuine one's in my lux as well, I just blow all the crap out of it first, then I just wash it out, blow it dry and whack back in again, is written on top of air filter element "washable" had in now for 60k still looks as good as new and never had any injector problems. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Wazza - (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:04

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:04
Peter is right. Sold my K&N on ebay and bought a genuine one and a slab of beer with the proceeds. Most service places I have talked to recommend the toyota factory air filters.
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 21:11

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 21:11
Uni filter is another brand like finer filter, made in (Hornsby) Sydney, they are oiled oam...they filter better than paper, but dont flow as well...Toyota paper are the best to get, as they are washable....it always blows me away how dirty they are after a clean with air...then a wask turns the water brown...
Best thing in the back blocks is the uni and a spare band to keep in an oiled state in a plastic bag.
Andrew
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 17:58

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 17:58
Try Unifilter ? Oiled foam, as with Fina - thats what I use on my Jack - they have a site.........
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:03

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:03
Forgot to say a test was done on paper filters vs oil foam filters etc and all the after market stuff and the paper filters come up the best, was done in a lab enviroment not somebodys say so, was a very interesting read. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:33

Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:33
I agree the paper filters tested best for dust and air flow, one thing they neglect to mention is if you accidently give your airbox a drink, the oil foam filter usually saves you approx $5,000 with a diesel motor.

I know we all should have snorkels, but its good insurance for those that haven't got them fitted.
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:48

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:48
When I had a turbo fitted they replaced the finer filter with a paper one to protect the turbo from foam filter pieces hitting the turbine at massive speeds.
Yes the standard ones are washable and have been for 20 years or so. I would rather wash my paper filter with water than clean a foam filter with solvent and then cover yourself in blue goo recoating it.
However if you still want a foam filter and outer band just reply and you can have mine gratis.
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Reply By: revhead307 - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:56

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 18:56
Sigh,

now i'm jealous...why cant Nissan have washable factory filters!

Rev
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Follow Up By: junior - Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 20:25

Sunday, Jun 04, 2006 at 20:25
was thinking exactly the same thing Rev :-)
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Follow Up By: madcow - Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:42

Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:42
And make them a decent size!. Bloody hopeless the size of them for the job at hand. Gotta admit toyota have got their act together there!
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Follow Up By: junior - Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 15:11

Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 15:11
yup!
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Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:06

Monday, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:06
Air Filter test :-)

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