Dundas Nature Reserve WA - Old Telegraph Line Track
Submitted: Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 00:20
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Tim HJ61 (WA)
Hi,
I am planning to Fraser Range east of
Norseman, then exploring further south around
Southern Hills station later this year. There is a road marked as the 'old telegraph Line' running from Balladonia to
Dundas Rocks about 20km south of
Norseman.
This old telegraph line also intersects with the Fraser Range Road described by Davoe in Post ID 14971 Site Link
Davoe's notes refer to the Fraser Range Road running north south. Does anyone have any knowledge of the Old Telegraph Line running east west?
Thanks
Tim
Reply By: joc45 - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 08:55
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 08:55
Tim,
Yes this was the old copper line running to Balladonia from
Norseman, right up till the early 70's, before the microwave system made it redundant. Originally, it was the
Coolgardie-
Norseman-Balladonia-
Eucla telegraph line, which, after the cutover of the open-wire systems on the east-west railway, was handed over first to the army, then to pastoralists for a party line. After the microwave system was installed, pastoralists connected to the new system, and the old line was recovered. For some reason, the line continued south of
Norseman, then turned east at
Dundas, heading to Balladonia. I do have access to some very early maps which might give a clue to this.
There is a
Dundas (
Norseman)-based group who have published a series of maps and treks on the internet covering the area you are interested in, but I can't seem to locate the link (I'm currently in the UK). I'm sure someone will come up with that link. They are rough, but Ozi-compatible maps, and look quite useful.
Otherwise, I will try to locate them when I return in a couple of weeks.
cheers,
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:20
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:20
www.dundaspost.com.au (hope this is right)
This telegraph track is in pretty good nick at least it was a couple of years back but is pretty burnt out without much in the way of points of intrest.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:22
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:22
East of where th telegraph track intersects the fraser range track is the south heading Mt Andrew track which leads to some interesting
granite outcrops with
cave and wave formations. it ends at a very nice
salt lake but access further south has been burnt out (The guys at
norseman were trying to reopen access south to the farmland)
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 16:11
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 16:11
Thanks for that, Davoe.
Not in Widgie anymore?
Gerry
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Reply By: Doggy Tease - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 13:48
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 13:48
I have the 3rd Edition of the Travellers Atlas of W.A.,,,,,1986,,and no track is shown through the whole area, except one heading basically south from Balladonia, that goes all the way into Cape Arid N.P.. Will do some more looking and see if i can find anything.
meow.
rick.
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Reply By: joc45 - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 16:23
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 16:23
Tim,
Just thinking further, there are a couple of interesting old abandoned stations south of Balladonia worth a look, especially Balbinya (about 80k south, and about 12k east on the track to Mt Ragged/Israelite. It has been roughly restored (a stone cottage, and a bigger stone
barn), and the surrounding area is quite interesting, with remains of dams, vegetable gardens, fruit trees, etc.
Was there one January, and managed to get the mulberries when they were ripe (had to fight off two emus which had the same idea). Had a fantastic mulberry pie that night.
The other station is roughly to the west about 25km.
cheers,
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 17:35
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 17:35
The Book challange in Isolation I bought from the condingup store gave a pretty good history of all those stations - good read.
Not working at widgie anymore. Moved to
Perth and spend most of my time in
Nullagine
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Reply By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 23:03
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 23:03
Thanks Folks for the info.
My QPA Roads and Tracks of WA have a 500,000 map of the area and shows the track, and as Davoe says, it exists and is likely trafficable which is just what I wanted to know. I've not checked my Ozi maps, as I know where the track is, I was more interested in what condition it was in.
Back around 1920 my mum was taken out to
Southern Hills station, south of Fraser Range, with her parents who were managers there for a while. After that they moved to Kulin and farmed then to Wellard in the depression. Several of that generation of 'seven little australians' have died and even the youngest are now 80, so a couple of my cousins are interested in heading out to
Southern Hills and retrace their steps just as one of those things to do. Thinking about it, they most likely used the Old Telegraph Track to get to and from
Norseman. Anyone know when the Eyre Highway was built??
I know from the current leaseholder at
Southern Hills the original
homestead was burnt down which is a bu**er, and the area is now only used as a
granite mine; but there might be some old stuff around. Anyways, Fraser Range area is interesting and I imagine
Southern Hills will also be interesting scenery and off the beaten track.
Thanks
Tim
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