a huge can of worms

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 22:10
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ok so we all know nissan is better than toyota and toyota is better than nissan and nothing else counts.i see you can add pics to your question.re trucksters roo posting. so heres the question how do you put a pic in and lets all sent in our best fourby effort and have a vote to settle this thing once and for all.could be fun
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Reply By: David - Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 22:28

Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 22:28
Diamond you should know that a _________ is absolutely and definetly better than a ________ . Everybody knows that!!!!
I agree- how does one post a pic.
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Reply By: Truckster - Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 22:30

Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 22:30
Dude, Dave doesnt really want pics up at the moment, as he is having coding problems with the changes...

So wait for the Go ahead from him.

When he says yes, I'll chuck up a simple how to, its basic HTML, EG 10 letters+ the URL! and the pic is up...

So lets wait.
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Follow Up By: Diamond - Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 22:36

Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 22:36
ok so you put a pic up to test
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Reply By: Bob - Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 23:09

Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 23:09
When you blokes get into some serious four wheel driving just keep a tally of the vehicle makes and you'll easily see which one is king off the road. Only problem is that they're so popular that their price is far in excess of the one that even advertises that it can't maintain traction on sealed roads. Who ever thought of promoting a 4wd by showing it spinning its wheels???
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Follow Up By: Diamond - Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 23:15

Thursday, Feb 27, 2003 at 23:15
i think the above mentioned fourby was going to be tied up and pulling the almost unafordable king of the road(coz there no good off) but the unafordable officials put a stop to it
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Follow Up By: Derek - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:29

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:29
Hey Bob. I am/was a 'dyed in the wool' Toyota fan and mechanic until I bought one 7 years ago. As the 'new member' inductor in my 4 wd club I get to see all types of cars come on my induction days and it pains me to say that the GQs and GUs out perform the Toyotas off and on road. I think the Toyotas are better built but not $10,000 better and to say that Nissan make a second rate car......well you want to see the list of problems I've had with my 80 series. I know what you said was tongue-in-cheek, but I thought I'd vent my spleen and offer some first hand experience to the forum. See ya.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:48

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:48
So, other Bob, you'd be a Honda CRV man then? (Since it has been the best seller for some years now)
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Follow Up By: Suzuki Viagra - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:47

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:47
Hey - don't knock the Honda CRV.

Millions of mothers and their Baby on board stickers can't be wrong!
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Follow Up By: Bob - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 00:14

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 00:14
The Honda CRV is a very nice little car - it's not a 4WD though but I'm glad you like yours Member-Bob. Derek I've read and re read my reply and can't find anywhere that I said Nissan make a second rate car. Was this an unfortunate slip of the tongue from you? I really am surprised that they continue to advertise their Patrol's power by showing it with complete traction loss!! Of course without constant 4wd I suppose it's quite possible to do but why advertise it???
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Follow Up By: Derek - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 23:36

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 23:36
Bob. Sorry about that choice of words. I didn't mean to imply that you said Nissans are second rate cars. What I should have said was " if anyone was to say.......". Sorry about that.
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Reply By: Member - John - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:03

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:03
Diamond, I feel that you are missing the point of the ExplorOz forum. I see it as a site catering to all types of 4 wheelers (and even others) who are interested in supplying and receiveing information, ideas, support and 'tricks' about travelling our great country.
Please don't start these 'mine is better than yours' type of chats that eventually turns nasty as has happened on so many other forums.
I may be wrong but currently I regard this site as a clean 'mums & dads' site that we can all enjoy without dispute and unpleasentness.
Diamond, this is not a hard criticism of you for you are free to say what you want where you want but lets keep this site friendly and not delve into areas where we have to take sides about 'mine is better than yours'.

Happy 4 wheeling

Woodsy
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Follow Up By: Damien - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:06

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:06
LOL,

John, not sure where you've been but there has been plenty of disputes & unpleasantness - just ask Ozie, Truckster, The Publican.................
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:38

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:38
Hi Damien,

I have been on this site for quite a while, I am just not a prolific poster. I agree that there has been disputes and unpleasantness but it doesn't mean that we have to accept it or promote it. Unfortunately as a forum gets more and more members we also get a cross section of the community which includes those who delight in controversy and trying to get a rise out of others.

Please see this site for what it is, (maybe my 'mums & dads' comment was a bit woosy), and let's enjoy it to the full. This forum is at the top of my Favorites list and I want it to stay there.

Anyhow, I feel a bit better now (not so grumpy).

Happy 4 wheeling

Woodsy
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Reply By: Truckster - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:29

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:29
One problem with this thread is since there is no editing option (YET!!), if you stuff up the posting of a pic 4-5 times this could get miles long.

As I say its not hard to post a pic, but lets wait for Dave to ok it.

Also Im mailing him with an idea for photo competiton, small prize, like Exploroz Hat or something, just for the social side... and a bit of fun...
I mean things like Nissans rescuing Toyotas has been going on for years.

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Follow Up By: Rusty - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:01

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:01
Is that a pic of of a Nissan saving a pajero......cause it couldn't be a toyota, cause Landcruisers don't get stuck like that......it's the drivers that do that.

PS I love the photo of the roo

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Follow Up By: Truckster - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:04

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:04
Of course its a MIGHTY NISSAN rescuing a little yota

in this case, its not a matter of SURFS UP, cause it was down... at the bottom of coopers creek out Walhalla! Over $5000 damage to the engine.
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Follow Up By: Peter - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 18:49

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 18:49
so a nissan pulling out a toyo. i also have video and photos of nissans pulling out toyos. toyos pulling out nissans. landies(god forbid) pulling out toyos. toyos pulling out toyos and nissans pulling out nissans. even bravos and rodeos pulling things out. in fact people pulling out all manner of things with all manner of vehicles. so my question is this.
are all the different 4x4s crap or are they all better than very thing else? or is it that we are all so busy pulling that we forget when we got pulled?
so i guess whether you like to be pulled or like to pull the main thing is to enjoy it and remember there is always someone else out there who is better or worse at it than you. regardless of what vehicle they drive.
so remember tread lightly out there and be gentle when a good pull is in order.you dont want to needlessly damage anything.
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Follow Up By: Suzuki Viagra - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:54

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:54
I shoulda got a photo of the train of suzuki's pulling out the Hummer - that was worth a bloody good laugh....

I actually remember being in a Tojo and getting pulled out by a Suzuki Stockman back in the early 80's.... Talk about David and Goliath.

All it takes is one foot difference in your line and you can go from conqueror to conquered with ANY 4wd. In an example like the above you'd never see it or know until too late. Seriously how many of us would get out, get wet walking across a creek crossing that small JUST to be safe?

Mind you - good to see something supporting my "Drowning newfangled electronic controlled 4wd's is not good" theory.....
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Reply By: ThePublican - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:16

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:16
How come you did,nt show all of the picture ???? the Ford Explorer towing the Nissan towing the Toyota , ;) :) :)
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 13:59

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 13:59
in you wettest dream :P
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - David - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:54

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:54
Guys & Gals,

I have been snowed under with performance updates and we are going to be doing this for another full day today. We are also releasing a complete look at feel update - with around 30 noew content pages all coming online before Monday. I have been thinking about the photos in the forum and also a new Members Rigs area with photos. I have a method of loading photos that will actually store the artwork on the ExplorOz site (so that everyone can post pictures - even if you do not have a website). I will have to limit the sizes of the images and the number of images (to ensure the site still performs OK). Give me some time and I will try to make it work.

David
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 13:05

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 13:05
Congratulations,

Your are doing a fantastic job, David. My favourite website. Keep up the good work.

Wombat
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:01

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:01
Yea thanks Dave, thought you should have right of reply.. should be good. So you dont want pics posted in the mean time or its ok to post?

Also any chance of getting the Smiley faces to work here?
EG
:) :P :( ;) :o to name a few!

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Wombat, not my fav site.. Mine is :)~ but nice brown nose job! ;-)~
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Follow Up By: Rusty - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:23

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:23
Does yours have smiley faces.......my fav sites all have smiley faces....lol
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:35

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:35
I don't think Truckster's looking at their smiley faces on his favourite sites.
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Follow Up By: Rusty - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:40

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 14:40
I guess seeing this was refered to earlier as a nice wholesum,family sight, with no bad words we shouldn't ask as to what he might be looking at then.......lol
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 16:46

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 16:46
I think they may have been something like this:


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Follow Up By: Truckster - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:34

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:34
Lets be honest... its the same with a hession bag on the head or not.

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Reply By: Kev. - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:41

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:41
In relation to Trucksters pic :

Why do people insist on crossing rivers without a snorkel ?
I see and here this from time to time and it must of been diesel to cause $5000 damage.

Do these people understand the risk they take or do they have no clue?
Also if they are not aware of this danger mayby someone should educate them before such trips.

Kev

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Follow Up By: Kev. - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:46

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 17:46
Looks like your found the "Damo" button.
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Follow Up By: Suzuki Viagra - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:57

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:57
Considering how deep the water is there is absolutely no need for a snorkel for this one......

I've crossed heaps of them without a snorkel - but then I don't have a turbo diesel engine that needs mega care on river crossings.... Go the Carby Petrol !!!!!

Have to do something about a snorkel one day.....
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Follow Up By: Kev. - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:38

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:38
Read Trucksters follow up post to the pic , $5000 engine damage.
You cant see how deep the water is as the pic only shows the exit side , it would have to be deeper than that to cause damage.

As you said less risk with a petrol engine but you still will hold up the convoy for 1hour or so.
Cant beat a snorkel
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Follow Up By: Suzuki Viagra - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 23:44

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 23:44
Mate of mine who was gonna buy a rocsta has seen the light after ACTUALLY driving it - he's now looking at a ISUZU MU 2.8 Turbo diesel.

If it's really good I might even buy one and sell the Viagra. At least if I can get one as cheap as he's looking at - 2 grand changeover - yummo!

Better get him a snorkel on his turbo diesel before the first time he tries to keep up with the mighty Viagra on a river crossing though..... don't think he's got an extra extra $5k.

Anyone know where you can get suspension lift for these? I know the diffs are effectively the same as Rodeo and thus ARB difflocks are availalble. I've seen on the internet Calmini and OME lift kits - but ARB say springs for these are custom made (yeah right - just test which Frontera/Rodeo/Jackaroo spring will suit at each end)....

There's quite a few different versions of these - Frontera, MU, Wizard, Honda Jazz etc and there's a lot of variation in them.

One of the very very few cars I'd definately buy a diesel in preference - if you've ever driven the Isuzu 2.8 Turbo Diesel and the 2.6 Petrol you'll know why.......

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Reply By: Richard - Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 21:53

Friday, Feb 28, 2003 at 21:53
If Toyos are so much better than 'the others', why do the For Sale columns in the papers always have so many of them for sale... everytime I've looked toyos would outnumber the Nissans 10-1
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Follow Up By: David - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 00:47

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 00:47
I STILLm reckon a ________ is better than a ___________ every time!
I don't care what any of you say!!
Cheers- my glass is nearly empty.
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Follow Up By: diamond - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 13:39

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 13:39
ha ha ha coz there no good lol
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Follow Up By: Kev. - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 16:25

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 16:25
Where's that Green eyed monster ????
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Follow Up By: diamond - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 16:43

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 16:43
that green eyed monster is stuck somewhere in his landcruiser that he just bought 2nd hand out of the paper lololololololhahahahahahalolol
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Follow Up By: Kev. - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 17:22

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 17:22
When it comes to computers which one is beter and witch would you prefer to use the P.C or the Macantosh ?
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Follow Up By: diamond - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 17:55

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 17:55
hmmmmmmmmmm now thats a question worth pondering would be nothing worse than making the wrong decision lolol
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Follow Up By: David - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 20:46

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 20:46
A Macintosh is a raincoat, it's not anything else is it?
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Follow Up By: diamond - Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 20:49

Saturday, Mar 01, 2003 at 20:49
it coiuld be a scotsman lol
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