Sunrise Channel 7

I wander what she would say if you show her your Zuk and said this is one of those 4WDs you reckon is dangerous. Our my MU some people dont have any idea.
Cheers Bruce.

if they keep throwing enough bleep , it will stick

Morning Bob,

Seen it as well. The woman on there really doesn't like 4wd's does she. Pity she will never see parts of the country that some of you guy's see(lucky buggers). I was going to email 7 this morning regarding her comments, but unfortunately my fingers can't type that quick, and she has the right to have an opinion, albeit one that is severely lacking in research and foundation. I feel sorry for these people, because it must feel horrible trying to breathe with their head buried sooooo deep in the sand.;))) (I wonder if she is the second member of s sss ssccru.... {I can't get the word out hahaha} you know that little group that doesn't like us either.

If they want to ban 4wd's from the city, that's fine but don't come to my place unless you are in a 4wd LOL

Wonder who else seen the show??

Greg

Bruce my were along those that you mentioned as well,i can understand them wanting to ban the other 4x4's sa they are much higher than pantec's ,Semi's', tilt tray's , & so on but as i said in a response last week if all drove the same 4x4 there would be no problem as no one would see past or over the other.They have no idea on the fuel efficiency of the vehicles they are talking about.They get on a particular horses back & they flog it to death till some other story is more important.
Cheer's Bob.

Just another little P.I.t.A group who seem get heard , like the Daylight saving mob in Qld who come out of the woodwork every year , Anti Smoking mob who gain a little ground each year ,[ I don't smoke]and of course we have anti Bull-bar campaign, well my solution to Anti 4X4ers is that they be banned from having a holiday outside a 200klm radius of thier City unless they have a 4X4 fitted with a bull bar

The commercial TV channels are woeful. You would think that if the Howard government is propping the cartel of commercial stations and it is, then the government would put some pressure on to improve programming.

But no, all the federal govt does is knobble the only alternative, the ABC.

The commercial channels make news. Isn't that sad!

We should be shooting emails off to federal members to complain about the rubbish that is commercial TV and its dumbing out of the Oz population. Did I mention cheap 3rd rate American shows too!

Hi,
I didn't see the show. Could someone post what they said about 4WDs.

Cheers Frank.

funny though that apparently a show a while back (never saw the show but saw an add about it) they had one of the crew broadcasting live from the sydney or melbourne 4x4 show!
and last thursday night Spoonman (talk show guy who is on for all us night workers) jumped on his bandwagon and had people ringing in about 4wd's.
Some callers defending us, some saying well I can't see in front of you because the vehicle is too big rah rah rah.... well what about the diesel smokin stinkin unroadworthy dodgy vans? minivans, taragos etc etc, when there is one of them in front of you you can't see either but no one tries to get them off the road. Just going on with crap. I was talking to Pezza on the phone (he's night shift to) when the show was on and if it wasn't for the simple fact that they like to pic topics to so annoy the crap out of people that he gets them to ring in, hence increases their ratings then we would have rung and had our say... but by ringing in that has just given him exactly what he wanted, people irate with his comments and sent his ratings up higher.
They want to take cars off the road, take away the cars that the 'invincible generation' think they can handle. there are more accidents involving 'normal' cars then what there are 4wds.

Cheers
Jo

We were in Mildura this morning and just happened to be watching Sunrise. Luckily we don't get it here. The woman was reading out e-mails and one she read was from some woman who said "We have a friend who has a 4WD and all she uses it for is to drive down to the shops and kills 7 kids on the way" Reading out such stupid crap gives our cause some assistance as any pea brain would see that the comment was just plain stupid and she is equally as stupid for reading it out. All she achieved was to loose credibility.

Got into trouble with SWMBO over that silly cow on sunrise, had only been up for 1/2 hr or so when she started dribbling that crap while I was sitting at the table enjoying a cuppa, don't need any more of that b/s first thing in the mornig and lost the plot and went off my tree at her ( the narrow minded excuse for a female on telly that is, not SWMBO ) Figured she could give me a chance to prove the "killing machine" thing if she ever walked out in front of me, have to be fair, she stopped short calling them a " killing machine".
Missus was saying that at least the rest of the panel gave a differing view, a couple did manage to get a couple of words in edgeways in between her rantings, but my point was that they let her rantings continue and put them to air, the problem I have with this is exactly what Truckster said.
I know that I said to Jo the other night that I don't let these 'ratings hounds' get to me, purely because I think there a just too many of us 4x4 users out there for our 'brainwashing-do-anything-to-get-a-vote' G'ment to take the risk and do anything about it. She was just one too many at the wrong time of day is all.

Avagoodn
Pezza

While the current rod rules allow you to tow a 20 foot Caravan with NO ADDITIONAL TESTING beyond a normal driver's licence, I wouldn't worry about controls on vehicle ownership.

Of course to show the stupidity of this anti-4WD movement, we could have a counter-proposal.

a. Anyone can own a Mini-Minor.
b. You can only own a Commodore-Falcon if you have at least 3 kids.
c. You can only own a 7-seater if you have more than three kids.
d. You can only own a van if you need it for business purposes.
e. You can only a performance car if you earn money from in races etc.

??????????

Mike

They won't be able to ban 4wds from cities. I admit the 'shopping trolley' range rover drivers can be a pest but those people dont exploroz and use this site do they?

I think the question in the years to come for city dwellers will be 'do you own a car?' rather than 'do you own a 4wd?'.

These people should focus their efforts on getting the public transport systems cheap and widely expanded. That's the way to reduce oil consumption and ease traffic rather than getting 4wds off the roads.

Barnesy

Here's my bob's worth...... I stopped at a major servo on the highway in nsw yesterday and out of the 6 cars at the servo filling up, 4 of them were 4x4s. If they're that bad for us, then stop selling em to us ;o)

semi - related gripe with the tv, 2 weeks ago 48 minutes of bull bleep (+12 min commercials)(plagerised from Austentatious) painted the mining industry in WA as a vandalising menace, this week they were the greatest industry in the country that we all owe our tax breaks to. Waiting for a positive story on 4x4's next.......still waiting.........still wa.....

I wonder what Karl Kruszelnicki, a regular of theirs, has to say to Melissa Doyle? He's a 4WD unthusiast like the rest of us, and he has to work there. Poor bugga!