Nissan Patrol 4.2

yeah, look out for salesmen ,the ones with ties on,the ones that started last week,the ones that talk, there telling lies,the ones that know everything and dont even haveone of there own,the ones that want to give you FA for your trade in, especally the ones that dont want to know ya when your new 50 granda chits its 10 grand motor 1 day out of waranty, go and look for one privately, pay a reptuable 4x4 mechanic to check it out properly, you will save thousands you will find what your looking for if you dont rush, how many salesmen are sorry they sold 3 litre what evers to hard working buyers, NONE. IF YOU MUST BUY A NEW ONE get the dealer or dealers to fight for your business. ps saved 10 thousand dollars on a deal january 2005. both dealer and customer still happy, salesman still talking about wood ducks. regards al

Car is a 2002 4.8 TI. I put it on gas after 50,000k. It now has 98,000K. It was backfiring and carrying on. Went across Nullabor and Cat pooped itself, went down the exhaust and blocked the muffer. It's a very common fault and your mate should fit a Hi flo stainless steel cat ASAP(so common that the LPG Fitter paid for the fix up). Car has never run properly on gas and the general consensus after me rooting around heaps is that the 4.8's don't like gas. The gas also burns out the valve seats on 4.8's (another common problem). So he should fit a flashlube kit or the like. Also I hope that he went for the Vapour injection. I like my Patrol, it's a great car and has never let me down apart from the gas. I have just put 4 brand new BFG's on a week ago and I am spewing that the won't fit the new one. I have had 2 Pajeros' and 2 Landcruisers and have been most happy with the Patrol (DO NOT START A DEBATE PLEASE EVERYBODY).

By the way the car hsa been fully dealer serviced all of it's life and has been generally well looked after.

If you want to discuss it more email me direct and I am happy to pass on my experience.

Cheers

Cheers Robin, I looked at removing the gas or changing to Vapour Injection. The issue with valve seats is the final nail in the coffin for me. I would really like to get the 3 litre but there seems to be so many issues with them (admittedly in the past) that I just can't bring myself to do it.

It's the 4.2 for me.

Cheers

If your aware of the power and NVH limitations , then there is probably no better car you can get so good luck Grizzle.

Almost always , new car contracts have fine print to the effect that they can pass on costs passed on to them and delivery date is not guaranteed.

I always write something like - Price is fixed and delivery before xyz date , and this condition overides any other contract clauses.
Do this next to where you sign.

Robin Miller

You are right Robin, I got caught on the delivery with this Patrol. ordered December, got it Feb. The first thing I will be doing is confirming availability. Just as an aside for anybody reading this thread, there is no cooling off period on new cars. The law states that when you buy it new you know exactly what you are getting!!! Almost got caught with that when I bought a Triton a few years ago. (another good car)

Thanks Roachie,

I've read a bit about the 3" pipe. The dealer won't fit one for me. I'm in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne so I'm hoping I can get someone to look at that for me.

Cheers

Gotta agree with Roachie.. (not that dumb that i would even contemplating disagreeing with him.. ) I have an 05 4.2TD and it has just hit 20000ks and starting to free up.. the economy is getting better too.. Fitted a full 3" exhaust at about 12000k's and it made a difference too.. enjoy..

I agree with Roachie and Coyote, but mine didn't free up until about 45,000 kms, then the exhaust.. phew. Nissan know about the exhaust too in the warranty and nothing was worrying them at all. What was I worried about with that?

Gotta agree with above. Mine has 165,000ks and still not completely run in.
Damn things take around the 200,000k mark for pistons to bed properly. Then they run well for the next 500,000k or so. Welcome to the club........Keith

The 4.8 is a doozie of a motor. I pull a ski boat and a van and you don't even know they are on the back. Mine is a TI so it has all the fruit. I am going to have get used to less oomph and luxury but I can live with that.

Cheers

Luxury can be sorted by ticking the ST-L (if it's still available).

Power can also be sorted with a number of power upgrades available but as Roachie suggested start with the Exhaust and dump pipe. Still won't match the raw grunt of the 4.8 but a nicely worked 4.2 will still get the job done nicely IMO.

Trevor.

Sorry to hear yakodi about your Patrol. I got rid of my 2000 3l for the 4.2 and never been happier. Let us know how you get on with the claim.

Congratulations Grizzle - now maybe you might change your name.

I drive the full length of stud rd each day in white manual 4800 with aerial in middle of roof , so might cross your path.

When time comes , can put you in touch with others who have had basic 3" mod and full changes done from place in Montrose.

You will owe us a full report in time on pros/cons of the changeover

Robin Miller

Great stuff Grizzle welcome to the BIG 4.2 TD owners club not much to grizzle about now as mine is a 99 GU 4.2td and still goin strong but did hav a short motor fitted at 2000k Warranty but is goin strong now LUV IT as its only the Tow Truck here only tows our house around (caravan) so happy days.
dj

What a small world! I also live in Lysterfield, but work in Glen Waverley. Give us a wave if you see the green Patrol.

BTW, good choice of vehicle.....oove my TD42T :-)

Will do!!

G'day Vincent,

Man O Man, you must be REALLY pushing it bloody hard to get 25L/100klm!!!! Even towing the camper trailer and doing the hardest off-roading, lots of low range etc (both Simpson Desert crossing and Cape York etc), the worst I've ever recorded has been 19L/100klm.

Not sure whether the extra axle would add that much to your fuel bill or whether there's some other reason.

Cheers

Roachie

Roachie,

I've seen 21-22lt/100k's out of mine, maybe that's why it runs warm ??? You know what I mean. hahaha.

Cheers Trevor.

Hi Guys

The old fuel consumption thing definately has its quirks , as is why I haven't really felt the pressure to change from the 4800 which is a potentially very thirsty car.

While the diesels are capable of a lot, the actual results are often not what owners expect. I have put real difference between GU's 4.2 and 4800 at 27% but this can be quite different depending on the overall circumstances.

RE our most recent trip of 6000km thru the desserts -
Haven't got the 4.2 figures yet but the 60 series diesel with us actually paid more for fuel than our 4800 which used $1287 with average of 16.5lt/100km.

This was because we would leave early in transport sections and sit on 100 compared to 115 and we have not a thing that increases wind resistance whereas they had everthing from Hi-lift across the bullbar to loaded roofracks etc and diesel was usual 5% dearer.

We meticulous about high road pressures etc but still it was instructive to see the "Total of the tape"

Robin Miller

To roachie
my 4.2 doe's great ltrs/100 & when we crossed the simpson last year it was a lot better than i expected & is normally quite good 13.5/16.5/100klms to but when you load the truck
(truck empty 3.1tons load it 1.4ton = 4.5tons then tow 3.5tons push it over 110klms & it drinks)
legal Gvm 4500 & tow 4500gvm with 75mm ball/pin & breakaway brakes (total 9000GMV) its been close a couple of times (thank god for a centre force clutch)

my truck is the family car on weekends & trips but the rest of the time it works & Very hard & shows how good the patrol is, the toyotas ive had have all had gear & transfer box Problems very early, the GMC has nothing but front end problems, the F250 was the worst truck i have ever had

Nsw Martime south coast changed from 4.2lt td to 4.8 petrols to tow there 7mtr craft as they have found that its is cheaper to run (mind you they turn over every 60,000klms)